RE: [flexcoders] Dual core license policy

2005-11-06 Thread Mika Kiljunen










I just participated a Micosoft SQL Server
2005 introduction by Microsoft and they clearly emphasizes that Microsoft counts
a dual core processor as a single processor on licenses. So that paragraph is
outdated.





-Mika











From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of João Fernandes
Sent: 4. marraskuuta 2005 13:00
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Dual
core license policy





I must be missunderstanding it but the Licensing paragraph says and I
quote:



 However, the trend seems to be counting
dual-core chips as a single processor as Microsoft, IBM, Intel, and AMD support
this view. Oracle was counting each core as a processor but came up with a
formula that is a compromise. IBM and Microsoft count a multi-chip-module as
multiple processors. If multi-chip-modules counted as one processor then CPU
makers would have an incentive to make large expensive multi-chip-modules so
their customers saved on software licensing. So it seems like the industry is
heading towards counting each die as a processor, no matter how many cores each
die has ...





What I can understand from this paragraph is that companies are
targeting the number of dies and not the n of cores inside them.









João Fernandes

Secção de Desenvolvimento

Departamento de
Informática















From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clint Modien
Sent: quinta-feira, 3 de Novembro
de 2005 16:25
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Dual
core license policy



I disagree... for all interpretations of thedefinitionat
wikipediait results in the same conclusion... a dual-core cpu is 2
cpu's/processors. That's the point. A mobo with one dual core
processor uses almost the same power as a mobo with 2 separate
processors. All they managed to do was squeeze 2 cpu's on one die. 











It's 2 cpu's.







On 11/3/05, João
Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 

Clint,



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_core




Its seems that it depends on the point of
view. What are we counting? the chip? or independent cores inside a chip? It
seems that many are counting the chip himself no matter how many individual
cores they have. It's up to Macromedia what's their point of view. 









João Fernandes

Secção de Desenvolvimento

Departamento de Informática















From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clint
Modien
Sent: quinta-feira, 3 de Novembro
de 2005 15:47
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Dual
core license policy





Actually Dave dual-core *is* 2 physical processors.
As opposed to Intel's Hyper Threading which is two virutal
processors. So if what you read is true... then Macromedia would consider
dual core as 2 processors. 



On 11/3/05, Dave
Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: 

On 11/3/05, Mika Kiljunen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 What is the Macromedia's license policy on dual core processors? Is a
single dual core processor calculated as 1, 1.5 or 2 processors ?

 I couldn't find this info anywhere, but I think it would be nice to know J



I can't remember where I read it, but I know for sure that
Macromedia's current policy is to use the number of *physical*
processors in the server as the number. So a dual core would just be
one processor. 

Regards,
Dave.


 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--
Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM
~-

--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
Yahoo! Groups Links 

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
 http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/











--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com 















YAHOO!
GROUPS LINKS





 Visit your group
 flexcoders
 on the web.
  
 To unsubscribe
 from this group, send an email to:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 Your use of
 Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 





















--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com








  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Web site design development
  
  
Software design and development
  
  
Macromedia flex

RE: [flexcoders] Dual core license policy

2005-11-04 Thread João Fernandes





I must be 
missunderstanding it but the Licensing paragraph says and I quote:

" 
However, the trend seems to be counting dual-core chips as a single processor as 
Microsoft, IBM, Intel, and AMD support this view. Oracle was counting each core 
as a processor but came up with a formula that is a compromise. IBM and 
Microsoft count a multi-chip-module as multiple processors. If 
multi-chip-modules counted as one processor then CPU makers would have an 
incentive to make large expensive multi-chip-modules so their customers saved on 
software licensing. So it seems like the industry is heading towards counting 
each die as a processor, no matter how many cores each die has ..."

What I can understand from this paragraph is 
that companies are targeting the number of dies and not the n of cores inside 
them.


João Fernandes
Secção de 
Desenvolvimento
Departamento de 
Informática



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint 
ModienSent: quinta-feira, 3 de Novembro de 2005 16:25To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Dual core license 
policy

I disagree... for all interpretations of thedefinitionat 
wikipediait results in the same conclusion... a dual-core cpu is 2 
cpu's/processors. That's the point. A mobo with one dual core 
processor uses almost the same power as a mobo with 2 separate processors. 
All they managed to do was squeeze 2 cpu's on one die. 

It's 2 cpu's.
On 11/3/05, João 
Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 

  Clint,
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_core 
  
  Its seems 
  that it depends on the point of view. What are we counting? the chip? or 
  independent cores inside a chip? It seems that many are counting the chip 
  himself no matter how many individual cores they have. It's up to Macromedia 
  what's their point of view. 
  
  
  
  João 
  Fernandes
  Secção de 
  Desenvolvimento
  Departamento de Informática
  
  
  
  From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clint 
  ModienSent: quinta-feira, 3 de Novembro de 2005 15:47To: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: 
  [flexcoders] Dual core license policy
  
  Actually Dave dual-core *is* 2 
  physical processors. As opposed to Intel's Hyper Threading 
  which is two "virutal" processors. So if what you read 
  is true... then Macromedia would consider dual core as 2 processors. 
  On 11/3/05, Dave 
  Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  wrote: 
  On 
11/3/05, Mika Kiljunen  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  What is the Macromedia's 
license policy on dual core processors? Is a single dual core processor 
calculated as 1, 1.5 or 2 processors ? I couldn't find this 
info anywhere, but I think it would be nice to know J I 
can't remember where I read it, but I know for sure thatMacromedia's 
current policy is to use the number of *physical*processors in the 
server as the number. So a dual core would just beone processor. 
Regards,Dave. Yahoo! Groups 
Sponsor ~--Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you 
find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM~---Flexcoders 
Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch 
Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go 
to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/* 
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]* 
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
  --Flexcoders 
  Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch 
  Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com 
  
  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS 
  
Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. 
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email 
to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of 
Service. 
  
  
  





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com





  




  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



  Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  









RE: [flexcoders] Dual core license policy

2005-11-04 Thread Jeff Whatcott





Interesting discussion. Our current licensing is by 
processor and we don't make any special distinction for dual core 
processors. We're studying this closely right now, and of course we reserve the right 
to change our licensing policies in the future, but for now there is no 
distinction for dual core. 


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mika 
KiljunenSent: Friday, November 04, 2005 2:29 AMTo: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Dual core license 
policy


I disagree with this, 
basically I still concider dual core CPU as a single CPU. If it’s counted as 2 
CPU’s on license policy then you’re better off having 2 separate CPU’s since 
they perform much better than the dual cores. If I remember correctly, Oracle 
counts dual cores as 1.5 processors and they round it upwards so 1 dual cores 
comes out as 2 and 2 dual cores comes out as 3. This also I think is just stupid 
J

At least Microsoft 
shows some sense counting a dual as a single processor. 


Still no comment from 
Macromedia?

-Mika





From: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Clint 
ModienSent: 3. marraskuuta 
2005 18:25To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Dual core license 
policy


I disagree... for all interpretations of 
thedefinitionat wikipediait results in the same conclusion... 
a dual-core cpu is 2 cpu's/processors. That's the point. A 
mobo with one dual core processor uses almost the same power as a mobo with 2 
separate processors. All they managed to do was squeeze 2 cpu's on one 
die. 



It's 2 
cpu's.

On 11/3/05, João Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
Clint,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_core 


Its seems that it 
depends on the point of view. What are we counting? the chip? or independent 
cores inside a chip? It seems that many are counting the chip himself no matter 
how many individual cores they have. It's up to Macromedia what's their point of 
view. 



João 
Fernandes
Secção de 
Desenvolvimento
Departamento de 
Informática






From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Clint ModienSent: 
quinta-feira, 3 de Novembro de 2005 15:47To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Dual core license 
policy

Actually Dave 
dual-core *is* 2 
physical processors. As opposed to Intel's Hyper Threading which is two 
"virutal" processors. So if what you read is true... then Macromedia would 
consider dual core as 2 processors. 

On 11/3/05, Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote: 
On 11/3/05, Mika Kiljunen  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  What is the Macromedia's 
license policy on dual core processors? Is a single dual core processor 
calculated as 1, 1.5 or 2 processors ? I couldn't find this info 
anywhere, but I think it would be nice to know J I can't 
remember where I read it, but I know for sure thatMacromedia's current 
policy is to use the number of *physical*processors in the server as the 
number. So a dual core would just beone processor. 
Regards,Dave. Yahoo! Groups 
Sponsor ~--Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a 
job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM~---Flexcoders 
Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch 
Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go 
to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/* To 
unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your 
use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 

--Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com 



YAHOO! GROUPS 
LINKS 



  Visit your group "flexcoders" 
  on the web. 
  To unsubscribe from 
  this group, send an email to: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Your use of Yahoo! 
  Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 










--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com








  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Web site design development
  
  
Software design and development
  
  
Macromedia flex
  
  


Software development best practice
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



  Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  









Re: [flexcoders] Dual core license policy

2005-11-03 Thread Scott Barnes



Personally, i think that now that FLEX 2.0 is on the showroom floor,
any who have bought FLEX 1.5 already should get a big ol 1xFLEX per
Computer, not cpu ;) as theres no real direction anyone can go unless
they upgrade to Enterprise Services..

heh :) *(worth a shot)*
On 11/3/05, Mika Kiljunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:















What is the Macromedia's license policy on dual core
processors? Is a single dual core processor calculated as 1, 1.5 or 2
processors ? 

I couldn't find this info anywhere, but I think it
would be nice to know J




P.S. Microsoft counts 'em as 1… ;) 



-Mika











--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt

Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com









  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  


Web site design development
  
  

Computer software development
  
  

Software design and development
  
  



Macromedia flex
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



  Visit your group flexcoders on the web.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.




  










-- Regards,Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.com






--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com





  




  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



  Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  









Re: [flexcoders] Dual core license policy

2005-11-03 Thread Dave Carabetta
On 11/3/05, Mika Kiljunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the Macromedia's license policy on dual core processors? Is a single 
 dual core processor calculated as 1, 1.5 or 2 processors ?

 I couldn't find this info anywhere, but I think it would be nice to know J


I can't remember where I read it, but I know for sure that
Macromedia's current policy is to use the number of *physical*
processors in the server as the number. So a dual core would just be
one processor.

Regards,
Dave.


 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 
Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM
~- 

--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com 
Yahoo! Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





Re: [flexcoders] Dual core license policy

2005-11-03 Thread Clint Modien



Actually Dave dual-core *is* 2 physical processors. As opposed to Intel's Hyper Threading which is two virutal processors. So if what you read is true... then Macromedia would consider dual core as 2 processors.

On 11/3/05, Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/3/05, Mika Kiljunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the Macromedia's license policy on dual core processors? Is a single dual core processor calculated as 1, 1.5 or 2 processors ? I couldn't find this info anywhere, but I think it would be nice to know J
I can't remember where I read it, but I know for sure thatMacromedia's current policy is to use the number of *physical*processors in the server as the number. So a dual core would just beone processor.
Regards,Dave. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM~---Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links
* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/







--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com








  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Web site design development
  
  
Computer software development
  
  
Software design and development
  
  


Macromedia flex
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



  Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  









RE: [flexcoders] Dual core license policy

2005-11-03 Thread João Fernandes





Clint,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_core

Its seems that it depends on the point of view. What are we 
counting? the chip? or independent cores inside a chip? It seems that many are 
counting the chip himself no matter how many individual cores they have. It's up 
to Macromedia what's their point of view.



João Fernandes
Secção de Desenvolvimento
Departamento de Informática



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint 
ModienSent: quinta-feira, 3 de Novembro de 2005 15:47To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Dual core license 
policy
Actually Dave dual-core *is* 2 
physical processors. As opposed to Intel's Hyper Threading 
which is two "virutal" processors. So if what you read is 
true... then Macromedia would consider dual core as 2 processors. 
On 11/3/05, Dave 
Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
On 
  11/3/05, Mika Kiljunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:  What is the Macromedia's license policy on dual core 
  processors? Is a single dual core processor calculated as 1, 1.5 or 2 
  processors ? I couldn't find this info anywhere, but I think 
  it would be nice to know J I can't remember where I read it, 
  but I know for sure thatMacromedia's current policy is to use the number 
  of *physical*processors in the server as the number. So a dual core would 
  just beone processor. 
  Regards,Dave. Yahoo! Groups 
  Sponsor ~--Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find 
  a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM~---Flexcoders 
  Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch 
  Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
  Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go 
  to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/* 
  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]* 
  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
  





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com





  




  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



  Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  









Re: [flexcoders] Dual core license policy

2005-11-03 Thread Clint Modien



I disagree... for all interpretations of thedefinitionat wikipediait results in the same conclusion... a dual-core cpu is 2 cpu's/processors. That's the point. A mobo with one dual core processor uses almost the same power as a mobo with 2 separate processors. All they managed to do was squeeze 2 cpu's on one die. 


It's 2 cpu's.
On 11/3/05, João Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Clint,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_core


Its seems that it depends on the point of view. What are we counting? the chip? or independent cores inside a chip? It seems that many are counting the chip himself no matter how many individual cores they have. It's up to Macromedia what's their point of view.




João Fernandes
Secção de Desenvolvimento
Departamento de Informática



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clint ModienSent: quinta-feira, 3 de Novembro de 2005 15:47To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Dual core license policy

Actually Dave dual-core *is* 2 physical processors. As opposed to Intel's Hyper Threading which is two virutal processors. So if what you read is true... then Macromedia would consider dual core as 2 processors. 

On 11/3/05, Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: 
On 11/3/05, Mika Kiljunen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  What is the Macromedia's license policy on dual core processors? Is a single dual core processor calculated as 1, 1.5 or 2 processors ? I couldn't find this info anywhere, but I think it would be nice to know J 
I can't remember where I read it, but I know for sure thatMacromedia's current policy is to use the number of *physical*processors in the server as the number. So a dual core would just beone processor. 
Regards,Dave. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM~---Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: 
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com 


YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS 

Visit your group flexcoders on the web.
 
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 










--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com








  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Web site design development
  
  
Computer software development
  
  
Software design and development
  
  


Macromedia flex
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



  Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  









RE: [flexcoders] Dual core license policy

2005-11-03 Thread Mika Kiljunen










I disagree with this, basically I still
concider dual core CPU as a single CPU. If its counted as 2 CPUs
on license policy then youre better off having 2 separate CPUs
since they perform much better than the dual cores. If I remember correctly,
Oracle counts dual cores as 1.5 processors and they round it upwards so 1 dual
cores comes out as 2 and 2 dual cores comes out as 3. This also I think is just
stupid J



At least Microsoft shows some sense
counting a dual as a single processor. 



Still no comment from Macromedia?



-Mika











From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clint Modien
Sent: 3. marraskuuta 2005 18:25
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Dual
core license policy







I disagree... for all interpretations of thedefinitionat
wikipediait results in the same conclusion... a dual-core cpu is 2
cpu's/processors. That's the point. A mobo with one dual core
processor uses almost the same power as a mobo with 2 separate processors.
All they managed to do was squeeze 2 cpu's on one die. 











It's 2 cpu's.







On 11/3/05, João
Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 

Clint,



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_core




Its seems that it depends on the point of
view. What are we counting? the chip? or independent cores inside a chip? It
seems that many are counting the chip himself no matter how many individual
cores they have. It's up to Macromedia what's their point of view. 









João Fernandes

Secção de Desenvolvimento

Departamento de Informática















From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clint
Modien
Sent: quinta-feira, 3 de Novembro
de 2005 15:47
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Dual
core license policy





Actually Dave dual-core *is* 2 physical processors.
As opposed to Intel's Hyper Threading which is two virutal
processors. So if what you read is true... then Macromedia would consider
dual core as 2 processors. 



On 11/3/05, Dave
Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: 

On 11/3/05, Mika Kiljunen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 What is the Macromedia's license policy on dual core processors? Is a
single dual core processor calculated as 1, 1.5 or 2 processors ?

 I couldn't find this info anywhere, but I think it would be nice to know J



I can't remember where I read it, but I know for sure that
Macromedia's current policy is to use the number of *physical*
processors in the server as the number. So a dual core would just be
one processor. 

Regards,
Dave.


 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--
Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM
~-

--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
Yahoo! Groups Links 

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
 http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/











--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com 















YAHOO!
GROUPS LINKS





 Visit your group
 flexcoders
 on the web.
 
 To unsubscribe
 from this group, send an email to:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Your use of
 Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.





















--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com








  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Web site design development
  
  
Software design and development
  
  
Macromedia flex
  
  


Software development best practice
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



  Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.