RE: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - considerations?

2005-11-17 Thread Philip Costa





Technically, you can deploy SWFs created with 1.5 on a 
server that is not running the Flex server. From a licensing standpoint, 
however, the client would have to buy a license to Flex for each CPU you deploy 
to. As you know, that is changing in Flex 2, but it's not 
retroactive.

Phil Costa
Sr. Product Manager, Macromedia


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, 
JasonSent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:34 AMTo: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - 
considerations?


Im a 
Flash IDE guy and have only produced simple apps with the Flexbuilder 2 Alpha 
which use XML. Anyhoo, I have 2 questions. I have created a site 
mockup of a Flex app in Photoshop for one of my clients. See it 
here: 

http://cmt.icfconsulting.com/temp/navyHRPortal_2.jpg

Question 
1: The client can only run Flash player 7, so knowing that and what I have 
mocked up, would you look at the following screenshot and tell me if everthing I 
am proposing in this graphic is possible in Flex 1.5 (obviously assuming we will 
have easy access to the data etc.)  including embedding the graphics and fonts 
in the tabs. I have played with Flexbuilder 2 and the 8.5 player, but not Flex 
1.5. 

Question 
2: I probably already know the answer, but can you run Flex 1.5 on a 
server in one place (say here, on the development side), produce the necessary 
.swfs, and then take the .swfs to another server that does not have the Flex 
server to deploy the app? Or are the .swfs strictly built at 
runtime? Or are there legal considerations for that? This isnt a 
requirement, but it would be nice to only have to buy Flex 1.5 server here, and 
give our clients the .swfs instead of telling them they need to also buy the 
Flex server to run this. I am guessing though, that the Flex server and 
the Flex app have to be on the same machine. Right? If so, I guess what 
are my options for something *kinda* like this  realistically  the 
Flash IDE or AJAX? If Flash 8.5 were an 
option, I would hold out for Flexbuilder 2, but its not with them since they 
can only run the Flash 7 player. 

Thanks,


Jason Merrill 
| E-Learning Solutions | 
icfconsulting.com 


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Re: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - considerations?

2005-11-17 Thread John C. Bland II



Jason, in reference to the design you might want to look at moving the icons inside of the button. This would replace print with the printer icon so your buttons will read [icon] summary and [icon] article or maybe nix article all together and just have the printer icon. The same goes for the add/remove. 
Not sure if you were looking for critiques or not. Hope it helps...On 11/17/05, Merrill, Jason 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

















I'm
a Flash IDE guy and have only produced simple apps with the Flexbuilder 2 Alpha
which use XML. Anyhoo, I have 2 questions. I have created a site
mockup of a Flex app in Photoshop for one of my clients. See it here:





http://cmt.icfconsulting.com/temp/navyHRPortal_2.jpg



Question
1: The client can only run Flash player 7, so knowing that and what I have
mocked up, would you look at the following screenshot and tell me if everthing
I am proposing in this graphic is possible in Flex 1.5 (obviously assuming we
will have easy access to the data etc.) – including embedding the graphics
and fonts in the tabs. I have played with Flexbuilder 2 and the 8.5 player, but
not Flex 1.5. 



Question 2:
I probably already know the answer, but can you run Flex 1.5 on a server in one
place (say here, on the development side), produce the necessary .swfs, and
then take the .swfs to another server that does not have the Flex server to
deploy the app? Or are the .swfs strictly built at runtime? Or are
there legal considerations for that? This isn't a requirement, but
it would be nice to only have to buy Flex 1.5 server here, and give our clients
the .swfs instead of telling them they need to also buy the Flex server to run
this. I am guessing though, that the Flex server and the Flex app have to
be on the same machine. Right? If so, I guess what are my options for
something *kinda* like this –
realistically – the Flash IDE or AJAX?
If Flash 8.5 were an option, I would hold out for Flexbuilder 2,
but it's not with them since they can only run the Flash 7 player. 



Thanks,





Jason
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icfconsulting.com 










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RE: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - considerations?

2005-11-17 Thread Merrill, Jason










So, if I
had my client buy one license of Flex, they could do that, and not have to
install it  and I could send them my .swf files I create with my license,
and all is honky dory? So, no technical issues  just license agreement
issues, correct? Assuming the licensing is worked out, its then just a matter
of moving the resulting .swf files, right? 





Jason
Merrill | E-Learning Solutions |
icfconsulting.com 






















From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Philip Costa
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005
12:21 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] My Flex
Site Mockup - considerations?





Technically, you can deploy SWFs created
with 1.5 on a server that is not running the Flex server. From a licensing
standpoint, however, the client would have to buy a license to Flex for each
CPU you deploy to. As you know, that is changing in Flex 2, but it's not
retroactive.



Phil Costa

Sr. Product Manager, Macromedia









From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005
11:34 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] My Flex Site
Mockup - considerations?

Im
a Flash IDE guy and have only produced simple apps with the Flexbuilder 2 Alpha
which use XML. Anyhoo, I have 2 questions. I have created a site
mockup of a Flex app in Photoshop for one of my clients. See it
here: 



http://cmt.icfconsulting.com/temp/navyHRPortal_2.jpg



Question
1: The client can only run Flash player 7, so knowing that and what I have
mocked up, would you look at the following screenshot and tell me if everthing
I am proposing in this graphic is possible in Flex 1.5 (obviously assuming we
will have easy access to the data etc.)  including embedding the
graphics and fonts in the tabs. I have played with Flexbuilder 2 and the 8.5
player, but not Flex 1.5. 



Question
2: I probably already know the answer, but can you run Flex 1.5 on a
server in one place (say here, on the development side), produce the necessary
.swfs, and then take the .swfs to another server that does not have the Flex
server to deploy the app? Or are the .swfs strictly built at runtime?
Or are there legal considerations for that? This isnt a
requirement, but it would be nice to only have to buy Flex 1.5 server here, and
give our clients the .swfs instead of telling them they need to also buy the
Flex server to run this. I am guessing though, that the Flex server and
the Flex app have to be on the same machine. Right? If so, I guess what
are my options for something *kinda*
like this  realistically  the Flash IDE or AJAX? If Flash 8.5 were an
option, I would hold out for Flexbuilder 2, but its not with them since
they can only run the Flash 7 player. 



Thanks,





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Merrill | E-Learning Solutions |
icfconsulting.com 







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Re: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - considerations?

2005-11-17 Thread JesterXL





1. Yep.

2. As Tracy  Phillip have said, nope, it's 
against the EULA to have a Flex generated SWF not on the same box that has the 
Flex server installed.

Additionally, you could do all of that in Flash, 
but I wouldn't code it. AJAX? Sure, but HTML blows.

- Original Message - 
From: Merrill, Jason 
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:33 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - 
considerations?


I’m a 
Flash IDE guy and have only produced simple apps with the Flexbuilder 2 Alpha 
which use XML. Anyhoo, I have 2 questions. I have created a site 
mockup of a Flex app in Photoshop for one of my clients. See it 
here: 

http://cmt.icfconsulting.com/temp/navyHRPortal_2.jpg

Question 
1: The client can only run Flash player 7, so knowing that and what I have 
mocked up, would you look at the following screenshot and tell me if everthing I 
am proposing in this graphic is possible in Flex 1.5 (obviously assuming we will 
have easy access to the data etc.) – including embedding the graphics and fonts 
in the tabs. I have played with Flexbuilder 2 and the 8.5 player, but not Flex 
1.5. 

Question 
2: I probably already know the answer, but can you run Flex 1.5 on a 
server in one place (say here, on the development side), produce the necessary 
.swfs, and then take the .swfs to another server that does not have the Flex 
server to deploy the app? Or are the .swfs strictly built at 
runtime? Or are there legal considerations for that? This isn’t a 
requirement, but it would be nice to only have to buy Flex 1.5 server here, and 
give our clients the .swfs instead of telling them they need to also buy the 
Flex server to run this. I am guessing though, that the Flex server and 
the Flex app have to be on the same machine. Right? If so, I guess what 
are my options for something *kinda* like this – realistically – the 
Flash IDE or AJAX? If Flash 8.5 were an 
option, I would hold out for Flexbuilder 2, but it’s not with them since they 
can only run the Flash 7 player. 

Thanks,


Jason Merrill 
| E-Learning Solutions | 
icfconsulting.com 


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Re: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - considerations?

2005-11-17 Thread JesterXL





I can't answer the licensing questions, but I would 
question what the future of this app is. I know this is hard without fully 
knowing what Enterprise Services 2 have to offer, but based on what you know, 
could you post-pone the project until Flex Builder 2 comes out? The price 
difference could be key in some situations.. that is, unless you really see a 
need for Enterprise Services (which again is tough without having full 
disclosure on their features).

- Original Message - 
From: Merrill, Jason 
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - 
considerations?


So, if I 
had my client buy one license of Flex, they could do that, and not have to 
install it – and I could send them my .swf files I create with my license, and 
all is honky dory? So, no technical issues – just license agreement 
issues, correct? Assuming the licensing is worked out, its then just a 
matter of moving the resulting .swf files, right? 


Jason Merrill 
| E-Learning Solutions | 
icfconsulting.com 






From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Philip CostaSent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:21 
PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] My Flex Site 
Mockup - considerations?

Technically, you can 
deploy SWFs created with 1.5 on a server that is not running the Flex server. 
>From a licensing standpoint, however, the client would have to buy a license to 
Flex for each CPU you deploy to. As you know, that is changing in Flex 2, but 
it's not retroactive.

Phil 
Costa
Sr. Product Manager, 
Macromedia




From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Merrill, JasonSent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:34 
AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - 
considerations?
I’m a 
Flash IDE guy and have only produced simple apps with the Flexbuilder 2 Alpha 
which use XML. Anyhoo, I have 2 questions. I have created a site 
mockup of a Flex app in Photoshop for one of my clients. See it 
here: 

http://cmt.icfconsulting.com/temp/navyHRPortal_2.jpg

Question 
1: The client can only run Flash player 7, so knowing that and what I have 
mocked up, would you look at the following screenshot and tell me if everthing I 
am proposing in this graphic is possible in Flex 1.5 (obviously assuming we will 
have easy access to the data etc.) – including embedding the graphics and fonts 
in the tabs. I have played with Flexbuilder 2 and the 8.5 player, but not Flex 
1.5. 

Question 
2: I probably already know the answer, but can you run Flex 1.5 on a 
server in one place (say here, on the development side), produce the necessary 
.swfs, and then take the .swfs to another server that does not have the Flex 
server to deploy the app? Or are the .swfs strictly built at 
runtime? Or are there legal considerations for that? This isn’t a 
requirement, but it would be nice to only have to buy Flex 1.5 server here, and 
give our clients the .swfs instead of telling them they need to also buy the 
Flex server to run this. I am guessing though, that the Flex server and 
the Flex app have to be on the same machine. Right? If so, I guess what 
are my options for something *kinda* like this – realistically – the 
Flash IDE or AJAX? If Flash 8.5 were an 
option, I would hold out for Flexbuilder 2, but it’s not with them since they 
can only run the Flash 7 player. 

Thanks,


Jason Merrill 
| E-Learning Solutions | 
icfconsulting.com 


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RE: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - considerations?

2005-11-17 Thread Merrill, Jason










Well,
unfortunately, this client (the U.S. Navy) has a gold disk (NMCI)
of approved players. The Flash player 7 is approved, but it would be a very
very long time before the 8.5 player is put on the gold disk. The rate of
acceptance of players is far beyond the timeline for this project. So, no,
Flexbuilder 2 wont be a viable option unless when it comes out it can
magically export to Flash 7. 



So, I *could* recommend they buy Flex 1.5 server,
and I also buy it as a developer, and then deploy to one of there servers
(which would not be running Flex, but would have a license)



Right?





Jason
Merrill | E-Learning Solutions |
icfconsulting.com 






















From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JesterXL
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005
1:21 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] My Flex
Site Mockup - considerations?







I can't answer the licensing
questions, but I would question what the future of this app is. I know
this is hard without fully knowing what Enterprise Services 2 have to offer,
but based on what you know, could you post-pone the project until Flex Builder
2 comes out? The price difference could be key in some situations.. that
is, unless you really see a need for Enterprise Services (which again is tough without
having full disclosure on their features).











- Original Message - 



From: Merrill,
Jason 





To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 





Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:53 PM





Subject: RE: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - considerations?











So, if I had
my client buy one license of Flex, they could do that, and not have to install
it  and I could send them my .swf files I create with my license, and
all is honky dory? So, no technical issues  just license agreement
issues, correct? Assuming the licensing is worked out, its then just a
matter of moving the resulting .swf files, right? 





Jason
Merrill | E-Learning Solutions |
icfconsulting.com 





















From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Philip Costa
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005
12:21 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] My Flex
Site Mockup - considerations?





Technically, you can deploy SWFs created
with 1.5 on a server that is not running the Flex server. From a licensing
standpoint, however, the client would have to buy a license to Flex for each
CPU you deploy to. As you know, that is changing in Flex 2, but it's not
retroactive.



Phil Costa

Sr. Product Manager, Macromedia









From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005
11:34 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] My Flex Site
Mockup - considerations?

Im
a Flash IDE guy and have only produced simple apps with the Flexbuilder 2 Alpha
which use XML. Anyhoo, I have 2 questions. I have created a site
mockup of a Flex app in Photoshop for one of my clients. See it
here: 



http://cmt.icfconsulting.com/temp/navyHRPortal_2.jpg



Question
1: The client can only run Flash player 7, so knowing that and what I have
mocked up, would you look at the following screenshot and tell me if everthing
I am proposing in this graphic is possible in Flex 1.5 (obviously assuming we
will have easy access to the data etc.)  including embedding the
graphics and fonts in the tabs. I have played with Flexbuilder 2 and the 8.5
player, but not Flex 1.5. 



Question
2: I probably already know the answer, but can you run Flex 1.5 on a
server in one place (say here, on the development side), produce the necessary
.swfs, and then take the .swfs to another server that does not have the Flex
server to deploy the app? Or are the .swfs strictly built at
runtime? Or are there legal considerations for that? This
isnt a requirement, but it would be nice to only have to buy Flex 1.5
server here, and give our clients the .swfs instead of telling them they need to
also buy the Flex server to run this. I am guessing though, that the Flex
server and the Flex app have to be on the same machine. Right? If so, I
guess what are my options for something *kinda*
like this  realistically  the Flash IDE or AJAX? If Flash 8.5 were an
option, I would hold out for Flexbuilder 2, but its not with them since
they can only run the Flash 7 player. 



Thanks,





Jason
Merrill | E-Learning Solutions |
icfconsulting.com 







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RE: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - considerations?

2005-11-17 Thread Merrill, Jason










Thanks John 



Yeah, I thought of that, but didnt know if
it was possible to embed a graphic inside a component button in Flex 1.5. Is
it? Or would I have to custom make the button as a .swf. I could do that I
suppose.





Jason
Merrill | E-Learning Solutions |
icfconsulting.com 






















From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John C. Bland II
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005
12:23 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] My Flex
Site Mockup - considerations?





Jason, in reference to
the design you might want to look at moving the icons inside of the button.
This would replace print with the printer icon so your buttons will
read [icon] summary and [icon] article or maybe nix
article all together and just have the printer icon. The same goes
for the add/remove. 

Not sure if you were looking for critiques or not. Hope it helps...



On 11/17/05, Merrill,
Jason  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



I'm a Flash IDE guy and have only produced simple apps with the
Flexbuilder 2 Alpha which use XML. Anyhoo, I have 2 questions. I
have created a site mockup of a Flex app in Photoshop for one of my
clients. See it here: 



http://cmt.icfconsulting.com/temp/navyHRPortal_2.jpg



Question 1: The client can only run Flash player 7, so knowing
that and what I have mocked up, would you look at the following screenshot and
tell me if everthing I am proposing in this graphic is possible in Flex 1.5
(obviously assuming we will have easy access to the data etc.)  including
embedding the graphics and fonts in the tabs. I have played with Flexbuilder 2
and the 8.5 player, but not Flex 1.5. 



Question 2: I probably already know the answer, but can
you run Flex 1.5 on a server in one place (say here, on the development side),
produce the necessary .swfs, and then take the .swfs to another server that
does not have the Flex server to deploy the app? Or are the .swfs
strictly built at runtime? Or are there legal considerations for
that? This isn't a requirement, but it would be nice to only have to buy
Flex 1.5 server here, and give our clients the .swfs instead of telling them
they need to also buy the Flex server to run this. I am guessing though,
that the Flex server and the Flex app have to be on the same machine.
Right? If so, I guess what are my options for something *kinda* like this  realistically  the
Flash IDE or AJAX?
If Flash 8.5 were an option, I would hold out for Flexbuilder 2,
but it's not with them since they can only run the Flash 7 player. 



Thanks,





Jason
Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com










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Re: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - considerations?

2005-11-17 Thread JesterXL





mx:Button / is an improved version of the 
button of the same class name in Flash MX 2004 8. Both support 
the icon property and both support the same 8 skins of up, over, down, and 
disabled.

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From: Merrill, Jason 
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 1:26 PM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - 
considerations?


Thanks John 
–

Yeah, I thought of that, 
but didn’t know if it was possible to embed a graphic inside a component button 
in Flex 1.5. Is it? Or would I have to custom make the button as a 
.swf. I could do that I suppose.


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icfconsulting.com 






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IISent: Thursday, November 17, 
2005 12:23 PMTo: 
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Mockup - considerations?

Jason, in reference to the design you might 
want to look at moving the icons inside of the button. This would replace 
"print" with the printer icon so your buttons will read "[icon] summary" and 
"[icon] article" or maybe nix "article" all together and just have the printer 
icon. The same goes for the add/remove. Not sure if you were looking for 
critiques or not. Hope it helps...

On 11/17/05, Merrill, Jason  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

I'm a Flash IDE guy and 
have only produced simple apps with the Flexbuilder 2 Alpha which use XML. 
Anyhoo, I have 2 questions. I have created a site mockup of a Flex app in 
Photoshop for one of my clients. See it here: 


http://cmt.icfconsulting.com/temp/navyHRPortal_2.jpg

Question 1: The client can 
only run Flash player 7, so knowing that and what I have mocked up, would you 
look at the following screenshot and tell me if everthing I am proposing in this 
graphic is possible in Flex 1.5 (obviously assuming we will have easy access to 
the data etc.) – including embedding the graphics and fonts in the tabs. I have 
played with Flexbuilder 2 and the 8.5 player, but not Flex 1.5. 


Question 2: I 
probably already know the answer, but can you run Flex 1.5 on a server in one 
place (say here, on the development side), produce the necessary .swfs, and then 
take the .swfs to another server that does not have the Flex server to deploy 
the app? Or are the .swfs strictly built at runtime? Or are there 
legal considerations for that? This isn't a requirement, but it would be 
nice to only have to buy Flex 1.5 server here, and give our clients the .swfs 
instead of telling them they need to also buy the Flex server to run this. 
I am guessing though, that the Flex server and the Flex app have to be on the 
same machine. Right? If so, I guess what are my options for something 
*kinda* like this – realistically 
– the Flash IDE or AJAX? If Flash 8.5 were an 
option, I would hold out for Flexbuilder 2, but it's not with them since they 
can only run the Flash 7 player. 

Thanks,


Jason Merrill 
| E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com 


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RE: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - considerations?

2005-11-17 Thread Merrill, Jason










Thanks.



So could someone confirm my reasoning on building
an app for Flash 7, having to buy two licenses. 



Do I really need two licenses? One for
development at my company and one for deployment on my clients server? So
I have to recommend purchasing two expensive Flex 1.5 licenses to deploy .swfs
only, not a server - vs. someday this spring (maybe) a much less
expensive Flexbuilder 2 license for under $1000  though I cant
use that. Hmmm, I wonder if Macromedia will drop the price of Flex server
1.5 when Flexbuilder 2 is released?



By the way, Macromedia if you are still listening,
I tried calling Macromedias sales line three times to get pricing
information on Flex for government agencies, went through the touch tone menus
and was hung up on twice before trying a third time and getting some random
sales dudes voice mail. Not impressive.





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RE: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - considerations?

2005-11-17 Thread Matt Chotin










Ive passed on a request to our
internal sales alias to contact you. Hopefully when they get back to you they
can help you work through all these questions.



Matt











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Thanks.



So could someone confirm my reasoning on
building an app for Flash 7, having to buy two licenses. 



Do I really need two licenses? One for
development at my company and one for deployment on my clients server?
So I have to recommend purchasing two expensive Flex 1.5 licenses to deploy
.swfs only, not a server - vs. someday this spring (maybe) a much less
expensive Flexbuilder 2 license for under $1000  though I cant
use that. Hmmm, I wonder if Macromedia will drop the price of Flex server
1.5 when Flexbuilder 2 is released?



By the way, Macromedia if you are still
listening, I tried calling Macromedias sales line three times to get
pricing information on Flex for government agencies, went through the touch tone
menus and was hung up on twice before trying a third time and getting some
random sales dudes voice mail. Not impressive.





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Re: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - considerations?

2005-11-17 Thread Jordan Snyder



Why not just set up a development server that could be used as the final production server as well, and develop your code on it? Then you buy one license and use it for development and deployment. 
You could still just deploy the SWFs. Just develop on the client's servers to begin with. Build a homebrew PC and work on it, then ship it off to them when you're done? Any obvious problems with this reasoning?



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I've passed on a request to our internal sales alias to contact you. Hopefully when they get back to you they can help you work through all these questions.


Matt





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Thanks.

So could someone confirm my reasoning on building an app for Flash 7, having to buy two licenses. 

Do I really need two licenses? One for development at my company and one for deployment on my client's server? So I have to recommend purchasing two expensive Flex 
1.5 licenses to deploy .swfs only, not a server - vs. someday this spring (maybe) a much less expensive Flexbuilder 2 license for under $1000 – though I can't use that. Hmmm, I wonder if Macromedia will drop the price of Flex server 
1.5 when Flexbuilder 2 is released?

By the way, Macromedia if you are still listening, I tried calling Macromedia's sales line three times to get pricing information on Flex for government agencies, went through the touch tone menus and was hung up on twice before trying a third time and getting some random sales dude's voice mail. Not impressive.



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icfconsulting.com 




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RE: [flexcoders] My Flex Site Mockup - considerations?

2005-11-17 Thread Merrill, Jason










Why not just set up a development server that
could be used as the final production server as well, 

and develop your code on it? Then you buy
one license and use it for development and deployment. 

You could still just deploy the SWFs. Just
develop on the client's servers to begin with. 

Build a homebrew PC and work on it, then ship it
off to them when you're done? 

Any obvious problems with this reasoning? 



Well, yes, actually. Thanks, I had thought
of that for a quarter second, but this client the U.S. Navy. No way in h-e
double-hockey-sticks theyre gonna let me go in and actually *develop* on their servers. This isnt a
small hometown bakery who wants a web page. Thanks anyway. I explained this to
a govt. sales rep Macromedia, they think they can work out some kind of
licensing so I can develop in one place, deploy on another. 





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