RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex SSL over AMF with ColdFusion services-config.xml

2008-01-03 Thread Peter Farland

In /WEB-INF/flex/remoting-config.xml, you can either set the default
channel to be just my-secure-cfamf, or explicity configure the channels
on the  in question.

If you set the RO channelSet property it will use that ChannelSet to
connect rather than the configuration (in fact, you can stop specifying
-services command line configuration argument if you manually create
your own ChannelSets for RemoteObject based apps) - just make sure you
only assign one channel in the channelset and then use this simplified
scenario to debug what the problem is (rather than complicating it with
failover URLs etc).

One thing you may have to do is check if it's a problem only in MSIE. If
it is, you may be running into the known issue with HTTPS responses that
contain no-cache headers. You seem to have the correct
 property set to false in your secure
channel-definition, but that's not a guarantee that something else is
not adding this header, such as another filter upstream or even your
webserver. You should use a client side HTTP Sniffer such as Paros Proxy
with MSIE which will allow you to see your HTTPS responses decrypted to
check raw header information.

Also watch out for known issues with MSIE and chunked encoded + gzip
compressed responses over SSL as this will also fail.

Finally, if you find that it's an issue with Firefox only... there is
one obscure but known issue with this platform. If your SWF is hosted
somewhere other than the CF server, then a crossdomain.xml is probably
being requested first before your connection is made (due to sandbox
security requirements of the Flash Player in the browser). If this
request for crossdomain.xml is challenged for HTTP Basic credentials
over an SSL connection that contains a port then it may just fail
silently.


RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex SSL over AMF with ColdFusion services-config.xml

2008-01-03 Thread Peter Farland
If you use Flex Builder in debug mode then the Console panel will show
trace output. However, if you're using a debug Flash Player plugin in a
browser (or the debug standalone Flash Player), then so long as you have
setup a mm.cfg file in your user directory, the flashlog.txt file will
appear in the predefined log location. For windows, mm.cfg would likely
need to be setup in 

C:\Documents and Settings\yourusername\mm.cfg

...and specify:

ErrorReportingEnable=1
TraceOutputFileEnable=1

Then trace output will appear in:

C:\Documents and Settings\yourusername\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash
Player\Logs\flashlog.txt

On windows I use tail.exe from cygwin to monitor the file.


-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of nasawebguy
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:34 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex SSL over AMF with ColdFusion
services-config.xml

Thanks Peter. My assumption was that if I'm loading via https, the
secure channel would be used. If not, the unsecure channel would be
used. 

I can try the TraceTarget, but where is the flashlog located?

Don

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Farland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> If you're loading your SWF via HTTPS then you should be able to make 
> secure connections from the Flash Player. As for the right channel 
> being automatically selected, it depends on whether channel failover 
> happens correctly. I didn't see a destination configuration below, but

> if the  snippet represents the list of channels for your 
> destination, then I believe it will try to connect using the 
> SecureAMFChannel first and fall back to the AMFChannel on failing. 
> While this might be useful in development, I wouldn't suggest it for 
> deployment - especially if you really do have a requirement to connect
to a secure endpoint.
> 
> Can you add  to your MXML, recompile, and then debug

> or look at flashlog.txt for more information about what might be going

> wrong in the channel connection phase?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of nasawebguy
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 8:45 PM
> To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [flexcoders] Flex SSL over AMF with ColdFusion 
> services-config.xml
> 
> When I use smartsniff/Charles, my remoteObject content is not 
> encrypted/https/port 443. IE/Firefox shows SSL to the user, eventhough

> the data is NOT actually encrypted over AMF!
> 
> Below is my services-config.xml file and remoteObject code snips.
> 
> I've been researching this all day with no clear solution. As I 
> understand it so far, I should be able to use two channels in my 
> ColdFusion destination and the correct channel would be used 
> automatically. Not the case. I need https pages to use SSL and http 
> pages to not.
> 
> I tried splitting them up into two destinations, "ColdFusion" and 
> "ColdFusionSecure", in the same services-config, but I keep getting 
> errors that ColdFusionSecure cannot be found, when it is used at the 
> remoteObject destination.
>   
> I'd appreciate any suggestions.
> 
> Thanks,
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  class="mx.messaging.channels.AMFChannel">
>  uri="http://{server.name}:{server.port}/flex2gateway/";
> class="flex.messaging.endpoints.AMFEndpoint"/>
> 
>   
> false
> 
> false
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  class="mx.messaging.channels.SecureAMFChannel">
>  uri="https://{server.name}:{server.port}/flex2gateway/";
> class="flex.messaging.endpoints.SecureAMFEndpoint"/>
> 
>   
>   
> false
> false
> 
> false
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>id="cfdata" showBusyCursor="true" 
>   destination="ColdFusion" source="flex.secure.send">
>  result="sendUpdate_Result(event)"
>   fault="sendUpdate_Fault(event)" />
>   
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex SSL over AMF with ColdFusion services-config.xml

2008-01-03 Thread Peter Farland
If your destination refers to both a secure and non secure channel in
that order, and the non secure channel is being used, and you're not
specifying an endpoint property on the  tag, that
sounds like failover is working? To confirm, you could use
 as I described and then check the
flashlog.txt.
 
 



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:14 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex SSL over AMF with ColdFusion
services-config.xml


Not the case in my experience.  If the swf is loaded over SSL and AMF is
not setup for SSL in CF land, AMF will go over non-SSL.  

Peter, FWIW, I never got this supposed failover to work, maybe others
have by now dunno.  I manually setup AMFChannel  to use SSL in
production environments.  Note that you have to compile your swf against
the proper services-config to do this.  What I did was have a
services-config for dev, staging, and production environments and had my
build scripts use the proper one.  YMMV. 


DK


On Jan 3, 2008 10:34 AM, nasawebguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks Peter. My assumption was that if I'm loading via https,
the
secure channel would be used. If not, the unsecure channel would
be used. 

I can try the TraceTarget, but where is the flashlog located?

Don



--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> , "Peter Farland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> 
> If you're loading your SWF via HTTPS then you should be able
to make
> secure connections from the Flash Player. As for the right
channel being
> automatically selected, it depends on whether channel failover
happens
> correctly. I didn't see a destination configuration below, but
if the
>  snippet represents the list of channels for your
destination,
> then I believe it will try to connect using the
SecureAMFChannel first
> and fall back to the AMFChannel on failing. While this might
be useful
> in development, I wouldn't suggest it for deployment -
especially if you
> really do have a requirement to connect to a secure endpoint.
> 
> Can you add  to your MXML, recompile, and
then debug
> or look at flashlog.txt for more information about what might
be going
> wrong in the channel connection phase?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
] On
> Behalf Of nasawebguy
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 8:45 PM
> To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: [flexcoders] Flex SSL over AMF with ColdFusion
> services-config.xml
> 
> When I use smartsniff/Charles, my remoteObject content is not
> encrypted/https/port 443. IE/Firefox shows SSL to the user,
eventhough
> the data is NOT actually encrypted over AMF!
> 
> Below is my services-config.xml file and remoteObject code
snips.
> 
> I've been researching this all day with no clear solution. As
I
> understand it so far, I should be able to use two channels in
my
> ColdFusion destination and the correct channel would be used
> automatically. Not the case. I need https pages to use SSL and
http
> pages to not.
> 
> I tried splitting them up into two destinations, "ColdFusion"
and
> "ColdFusionSecure", in the same services-config, but I keep
getting
> errors that ColdFusionSecure cannot be found, when it is used
at the
> remoteObject destination.
> 
> I'd appreciate any suggestions.
> 
> Thanks,
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  class="mx.messaging.channels.AMFChannel">
>  uri="http://{server.name}:{server.port}/flex2gateway/";
> class="flex.messaging.endpoints.AMFEndpoint"/> 
> 
> 
> false
> 
> false
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  class="mx.messaging.channels.SecureAMFChannel">
>  uri="https://{server.name}:{server.port}/flex2gateway/";
> class="

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex SSL over AMF with ColdFusion services-config.xml

2008-01-03 Thread Douglas Knudsen
Not the case in my experience.  If the swf is loaded over SSL and AMF is not
setup for SSL in CF land, AMF will go over non-SSL.

Peter, FWIW, I never got this supposed failover to work, maybe others have
by now dunno.  I manually setup AMFChannel  to use SSL in production
environments.  Note that you have to compile your swf against the proper
services-config to do this.  What I did was have a services-config for dev,
staging, and production environments and had my build scripts use the proper
one.  YMMV.


DK

On Jan 3, 2008 10:34 AM, nasawebguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Thanks Peter. My assumption was that if I'm loading via https, the
> secure channel would be used. If not, the unsecure channel would be used.
>
> I can try the TraceTarget, but where is the flashlog located?
>
> Don
>
>
> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com , "Peter
> Farland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > If you're loading your SWF via HTTPS then you should be able to make
> > secure connections from the Flash Player. As for the right channel being
> > automatically selected, it depends on whether channel failover happens
> > correctly. I didn't see a destination configuration below, but if the
> >  snippet represents the list of channels for your destination,
> > then I believe it will try to connect using the SecureAMFChannel first
> > and fall back to the AMFChannel on failing. While this might be useful
> > in development, I wouldn't suggest it for deployment - especially if you
> > really do have a requirement to connect to a secure endpoint.
> >
> > Can you add  to your MXML, recompile, and then debug
> > or look at flashlog.txt for more information about what might be going
> > wrong in the channel connection phase?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com  [mailto:
> flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ] On
> > Behalf Of nasawebguy
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 8:45 PM
> > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: [flexcoders] Flex SSL over AMF with ColdFusion
> > services-config.xml
> >
> > When I use smartsniff/Charles, my remoteObject content is not
> > encrypted/https/port 443. IE/Firefox shows SSL to the user, eventhough
> > the data is NOT actually encrypted over AMF!
> >
> > Below is my services-config.xml file and remoteObject code snips.
> >
> > I've been researching this all day with no clear solution. As I
> > understand it so far, I should be able to use two channels in my
> > ColdFusion destination and the correct channel would be used
> > automatically. Not the case. I need https pages to use SSL and http
> > pages to not.
> >
> > I tried splitting them up into two destinations, "ColdFusion" and
> > "ColdFusionSecure", in the same services-config, but I keep getting
> > errors that ColdFusionSecure cannot be found, when it is used at the
> > remoteObject destination.
> >
> > I'd appreciate any suggestions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Don
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> >
> >  > class="mx.messaging.channels.AMFChannel">
> >  > uri="http://{server.name}:{server.port}/flex2gateway/";
> > class="flex.messaging.endpoints.AMFEndpoint"/>
> >
> > 
> > false
> > 
> > false
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> >  > class="mx.messaging.channels.SecureAMFChannel">
> >  > uri="https://{server.name}:{server.port}/flex2gateway/";
> > class="flex.messaging.endpoints.SecureAMFEndpoint"/>
> >
> > 
> >
> > false
> > false
> > 
> > false
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> >
> >  > id="cfdata" showBusyCursor="true"
> > destination="ColdFusion" source="flex.secure.send">
> >  > result="sendUpdate_Result(event)"
> > fault="sendUpdate_Fault(event)" />
> > 
> >
> >
> >
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