Re: [Flexradio] High-Resolution Clock on AMD64 / nVidia nForce

2006-03-23 Thread Sami Aintila
On 3/23/06, Lee A Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and Sami Aintila telle me I will get 3,579,545 Hz even if I have ACPI 2.0 running. That's not exactly what I said. I said that performance counter frequency does not NECESSARILY relate to ACPI version. So you can get the ~3.5 MHz reading

[Flexradio] High-Resolution Clock on AMD64 / nVidia nForce

2006-03-23 Thread Lee A Crocker
I went to look at the website where perf resides, and this is the authors blurb regarding that applet: perf (download source) (download executable) This is a simple Win32 utility I use to figure out whether a machine has support for the high-resolution performance counters necessary for

[Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Lux
The recent discussion about the inevitable delay through the receiver for CW brings up an interesting point. To a first order, the delay, through ANY receiver, is going to be related to how steep the skirts are on the filters (a 1 Hz bandwidth filter is going to have a delay 100 times as

Re: [Flexradio] High-Resolution Clock on AMD64 / nVidia nForce

2006-03-23 Thread Robert W McGwier
Lee: This is a really good point. One where we can agree completely. We are so long between major releases, but constantly doing interim releases, that we probably should update the documentation as we go along with the code as it is developed. The only reason 1.6.0 is not out today is

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Jeff Anderson
Does anyone have a feeling (or knowledge) regarding how much overall delay (rcv xmit path combined) is acceptable for the type of CW operation being described in this thread? Also - I wonder how changing buffer sizes (audio, dsp,...) affects performance. For example, if one changes the

Re: [Flexradio] High-Resolution Clock on AMD64 / nVidia nForce

2006-03-23 Thread Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio
Lee, I have put a word in with our reflector host to inquire about the previous email suggestions about making it searchable. I'll post here when I find something out. It is likely that we will be adding our archive to the mail-archive.com website. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems

[Flexradio] scaled power scheme

2006-03-23 Thread Bill Nagle
Hi Eric: I will also post this in the requested features area in support. If we do the following, we can have totally scaled power for those touchy linears and also allow more output availability when using the sdr1000 as a stand alone device: 1--In the SETUP/TRANSMIT menu add a knob(similar

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Ken - N9VV
re: has anyone characterized the T/R delay? Y*E*S, Lee Crocker wrote extensively about the CW performance and related T/R delays etc. Please read below and then check the archive for Lee Crocker around March 22nd === [Flexradio]

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Jeff Anderson
Hi Ken, I checked the archive and, although I found a number of message Lee wrote in March, none of them discuss what T/R delays really ought to be. Perhaps I overlooked it, but I thouht I checked all his messages. I also took a look at other messages around that time, and, apart

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Ken - N9VV
Hi Jeff, sorry, I missed what you were after. I took a brief look at the ARRL Test Results http://www.arrl.org/members-only/prodrev/bymfg.html#T and found: ICOM IC-780017ms ICOM IC-746pro 18ms Yaesu MK-V 28ms Kenwood TS870 18ms Ten-Tec Orion 24.6ms SDR-1000 (October 2005)

Re: [Flexradio] scaled power scheme

2006-03-23 Thread Robert W McGwier
Bill: Bring up the code in the MS IDE. Bring up the console.cs in DESIGN mode. click once on the power button. In the lower right hand corner you will see the limits for the Power button. Change the upper limit to 150. Have fun. Bob Bill Nagle wrote: Hi Eric: I will also post this

Re: [Flexradio] scaled power scheme

2006-03-23 Thread Robert W McGwier
Let me hasten to add, you are STRICTLY on your own with this mod. Any damage, spurious emissions, etc. is on your nickel. Bob Robert W McGwier wrote: Bill: Bring up the code in the MS IDE. Bring up the console.cs in DESIGN mode. click once on the power button. In the lower right hand

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Lux
At 08:41 AM 3/23/2006, Ken - N9VV wrote: re: has anyone characterized the T/R delay? Y*E*S, Lee Crocker wrote extensively about the CW performance and related T/R delays etc. Please read below and then check the archive for Lee Crocker around March 22nd Perhaps, though, the question is not

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Lux
At 10:00 AM 3/23/2006, Ken - N9VV wrote: Hi Jeff, sorry, I missed what you were after. I took a brief look at the ARRL Test Results http://www.arrl.org/members-only/prodrev/bymfg.html#T and found: ICOM IC-780017ms ICOM IC-746pro 18ms Yaesu MK-V 28ms Kenwood TS870 18ms Ten-Tec Orion

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread lloen
And here's where a software radio is so nifty.. the delay through the electronics in the SDR1000 is very small (microseconds), and the delay through the signal processing is a function of what kind of filters you implement. Maybe the answer for fast CW is to have different filters, accepting

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Lux
At 10:36 AM 3/23/2006, Jim Lux wrote: At 10:00 AM 3/23/2006, Ken - N9VV wrote: Hi Jeff, sorry, I missed what you were after. I took a brief look at the ARRL Test Results http://www.arrl.org/members-only/prodrev/bymfg.html#T and found: ICOM IC-780017ms ICOM IC-746pro 18ms Yaesu MK-V

Re: [Flexradio] When in Split mode, the mode selection of VFO A overrides the mode selection of VFO B. Is this intended?

2006-03-23 Thread lloen
When in Split mode, the mode selection of VFO A overrides the mode selection of VFO B. While this may seem like a good thing, if you have just operated CW split mode and switch to SSB operation and forget to remove the split mode, you will be transmitting SSB in the CW portion of the band.

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Ken - N9VV
Hi Jim, I tried to find the turnaround time that is defined by the ARRL tests as: Transmit/Receive Turnaround Time Test Description: The purpose of the Transmit/Receive turnaround test is to measure the delay required to switch

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Lux
At 11:05 AM 3/23/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And here's where a software radio is so nifty.. the delay through the electronics in the SDR1000 is very small (microseconds), and the delay through the signal processing is a function of what kind of filters you implement. Maybe the answer

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Lux
At 11:07 AM 3/23/2006, Ken - N9VV wrote: Hi Jim, I tried to find the turnaround time that is defined by the ARRL tests as: Transmit/Receive Turnaround Time Test Description: The purpose of the Transmit/Receive turnaround test is

Re: [Flexradio] When in Split mode, the mode selection of VFO A overrides the mode selection of VFO B.Is this intended?

2006-03-23 Thread Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio
William, This is a great point and opinions seem to vary widely in terms of how the VFOs should work and what exactly a VFO is. Our current design uses VFO-A for the mode and while VFO B stores the mode (for swapping), when transmitting split, the mode of VFO A is used. This is a consequence of

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Jeff Anderson
Another interesting number can be gleaned from the Orion test report... At 60 wpm, it looks like the 'active' period of a 'dit' is 20 ms long (or, stated another way, it's 40 ms from a dit rising edge to the rising edge of a following dit), assuming I'm interpreting the figure correctly.

[Flexradio] 96000

2006-03-23 Thread k5nu
Before I got a new computer, I could set the sample rate on the audio tab to 96000 and widen the panadapter display. Now since downloading version 18 on the new computer, when I click 96000, I lose all recieve and hear only an oscillating swish across the audio. I have to reimport a database

Re: [Flexradio] 96000

2006-03-23 Thread Jimmy Jones
Mine will only work on 48k. Firebox and Dell Dimension 4550 2.4 gig proc with a gig of ram. Before I got a new computer, I could set the sample rate on the audio tab to 96000 and widen the panadapter display. Now since downloading version 18 on the new computer, when I click 96000, I

Re: [Flexradio] 96000

2006-03-23 Thread Tim Ellison
Look at buffers too. I had to up some buffers to eliminate drop outs, especially using digital modes. -Tim --- Integrated Technical Services You can't close the door when the walls cave in --Robert Hunter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [Flexradio] 96000

2006-03-23 Thread Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio
Are you setting the sample rate on the FireBox control panel? Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:37 PM To: FLexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re:

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Eric Ellison
Jim As usual excellent responses and very clear explanation of delays. Over the seemingly many months, this has been discussed any number of times with no precise resolution or measurments. (as far as I am aware). We even invented a hardware daughter card to overcome the apparent desense of the

[Flexradio] Ken - N9VV to moderate this week's Flex-Radio Friends Forum at 0100 Saturday (tomorrow night for US hams)

2006-03-23 Thread Eric Ellison
Folks Just wanted to say thanks in advance to Ken N9VV for moderating tomorrow night's forum on Teamspeak. You will be given a reprieve from my 'fumble bumble' moderation to a fine feller with a broadcast easygoing style, whose chuckle has always made me feel Glad to be alive! Ken was

[Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Lee A Crocker
I perceive the variability in TR as well. I think the way to think of this is to not consider QSK. The way to think of this is to consider how to control semi break-in very precisely. The reason designing for QSK is a waste of time is because of the buckets and buckets. The ability to turn

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Lux
At 03:51 PM 3/23/2006, Eric Ellison wrote: I think for most, the real problem is software monitoring of sidetone which even with a few ms delay or worse, intermittent delays, will throw a high speed cw operator off rhythm. (It really does bring tears to your eyes to see a hs cw op respond to

[Flexradio] Help! RF out on SSB when the radio is not modulated????

2006-03-23 Thread Tim Ellison
I am noticing a very strange phenomenon with Preview 18 (and 15 16) where when I am in SSB mode and not modulating the SDR1K, I have FR output of 6-10 watts. I even unplugged the mic input from the firebox and turned all of the preamps down to 0 and I still have 10 watts of RF being output. If I

Re: [Flexradio] bandwidth, filters, CW keying speed, etc.

2006-03-23 Thread Tom Thompson
I may be way off base on this, but fools often wade in where angels fear to tread. It seems to me that the limiting factor in the latency from, when the last character is sent and the other station is heard, is the sampling rate of the sound card. In order for the radio to start working on