Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-06 Thread radioart
GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners My impression is you need more than a single pair of antenna choices. I spent a lot of time trying to seperate WWVH and WWVB from FL using 2 verticals that were endfire to the E/W. I think something

Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-06 Thread radioart
USA k0...@arrl.net 952-898-1082 - Original Message - From: Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com To: audio...@charter.net Cc: FLEX USERS flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 7:39:01 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-06 Thread Bob McGwier
radio...@frontiernet.net wrote: Bob, how would this work with the SDR-1000 and Flex3000 considering they only have one RX? Are you using the Multi-Rx capability in PowerSDR and them applying the ESPRIT algorithms from the paper you referenced in this email?? 73, Dennis Petrich Amateur Radio

Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-05 Thread Jim Barber
Not being familiar with the architecture or sources, would there be any value in developing a 2-input, LMS-style noise reduction scheme using the same antenna for both receivers and a small frequency offset? (RX2 would be tuned to an unoccupied noise frequency as close as possible to the

Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-05 Thread Lee A Crocker
I made a few more clips. The effect can be spectactular or very subtle. In 40-E I found on static the source is sort of from a quadrant and so the notching is very broad. None the less I could get about 3dB of noise reduction. In 40-F the SWBC is dramatic. The station was very weak. If

Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-05 Thread Bob McGwier
Lee A Crocker wrote: I made a few more clips. The effect can be spectactular or very subtle. In 40-E I found on static the source is sort of from a quadrant and so the notching is very broad. None the less I could get about 3dB of noise reduction. In 40-F the SWBC is dramatic. The

Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-05 Thread Bob McGwier
Wow is right. It is hard to understand just how impressive 40F really is. 40G sounds the most impressive but to the trained ear and tools, 40 F is amazing. The Flex 5000 is utterly coherent through the oscillators. It is two different DDS's that are synchronized by a built in system which

Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-05 Thread Dennis Petrich
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners Wow is right. It is hard to understand just how impressive 40F really is. 40G sounds the most impressive but to the trained ear and tools, 40 F is amazing. The Flex 5000 is utterly coherent through the oscillators. It is two

Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-05 Thread Bob McGwier
Jim: We can do this right now with a software receiver. We need to make the oscillators coherent in the same way we have done (in software). So this will be usable by SDR-1000 and Flex3000 owners. Good idea. I do not agree that the algorithm you suggest is the correct one but it will be

Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-05 Thread Bob McGwier
You idea is a good one. Period. That is all you should take away from my remarks. I had not even begun to think of doing coherent processing with the software receivers except to suck off interfering sidebands from other signals in our passband. Thank you. John lovingly calls it the Bob

Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-05 Thread Phil Harman
Frank mentioned one person who had done some phasing experiments. I would also like to mention Alex Shovkoplyas, VE3NEA who has done a really neat version. I intend to steal his user interface idea completely. It makes both mathematical and user sense. Bob I had the good fortune to do

Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-05 Thread Mike Naruta
Perhaps what we need is adaptive diversity reception. :) Phil Harman wrote: My results of using the system was inconclusive. What I found was that strong local signals could be nulled completely. However, on DX stations it was very difficult to get any form of null or enhancement. When

Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-05 Thread Lee A Crocker
W9OY From: Phil Harman p...@pharman.org To: Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com Cc: Lee A Crocker lee_croc...@yahoo.com; Flexradio flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 9:02:44 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

[Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-04 Thread Bob McGwier
Eric and I have begun adding the diversity reception capability to the Flex 5000. It will work for those 5000's which have the RX2 installed. In my diversity branch, one can find the enabled code. It is VERY rough but as you can tell from Lee's blog: http://w9oy-sdr.blogspot.com/ the

Re: [Flexradio] Diversity Reception for Flex 5000 owners

2009-05-04 Thread Frank Brickle
FWIW there is an article by Victor K1LT for QEX about work with this same technique, using multiple SoftRocks and Linux DttSP. Victor has been developing his own software for phased combining of multiple antenna inputs for a couple of years now, with considerable success, as related in the