Re: [Flexradio] FW: Flex 3000 Question from a Newbie

2012-04-09 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
quote Or, just turn down the drive as you are supposed to. /quote SUPPOSED to is the key phrase here. Isn't the point of ALC to be a safeguard? Obviously you don't set all knobs right (I *love* that phrase) and rely on ALC to take care of the level-setting for you. Won't ALC save you from

Re: [Flexradio] FW: Flex 3000 Question from a Newbie

2012-04-09 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Peter G. Viscarola pete...@osr.com wrote: quote Or, just turn down the drive as you are supposed to. /quote SUPPOSED to is the key phrase here. Isn't the point of ALC to be a safeguard? Obviously you don't set all knobs right (I *love* that phrase) and

Re: [Flexradio] FW: Flex 3000 Question from a Newbie

2012-04-09 Thread Jim Jannuzzo
and should result in shutdown and cool off period. I guess I have drunk the lemonade. Jim From: pete...@osr.com To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 10:04:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FW: Flex 3000 Question from a Newbie quote Or, just turn down the drive as you

Re: [Flexradio] FW: Flex 3000 Question from a Newbie

2012-04-09 Thread Jim Barber
Peter, Others beat me to the punch here so for the most part I'll just add my metoo, but mention that in the cases where ALC is implemented between two rigs as part of an engineered system it can work as advertised. Those systems are few and far between, unfortunately. I have no specific

Re: [Flexradio] FW: Flex 3000 Question from a Newbie

2012-04-09 Thread Burt
Brevity is the soul of wit-Shakespeare If you are too big for a small job, you are too small for a big job. --- On Mon, 4/9/12, Peter G. Viscarola pete...@osr.com wrote: From: Peter G. Viscarola pete...@osr.com Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FW: Flex 3000 Question from a Newbie To: FlexRadio@flex

Re: [Flexradio] FW: Flex 3000 Question from a Newbie

2012-04-09 Thread Don
Hello I’ve read with interest the pro’s and con’s of the ALC. But the fact is I don’t have it on the F3k. So since I don’t and I can not change that, for me the best way to get around it has been to use DDutil and set the drive levels. So my question becomes is there a better way to do it?

[Flexradio] FW: Flex 3000 Question from a Newbie

2012-04-08 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt, II
Actually you don't want to use an ALC connection if you can possibly avoid it. ALC is designed to protect the amplifier from overdrive by feedback to the transmitter... reducing its gain. That, in fact, creates a nonlinear overall gain function in the overall radio-amp chain that is not

Re: [Flexradio] FW: Flex 3000 Question from a Newbie

2012-04-08 Thread Keith Goobie
Hi All Yes, there is no ALC output from the Flex 3000 - hopefully will be addressed in future models. If it takes 100 watts to drive the ALS 600 to full power (as reported by others), then then you can probably comfortably live without it. If you get reports that after you have everything

Re: [Flexradio] FW: Flex 3000 Question from a Newbie

2012-04-08 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Keith Goobie ke...@goobie.org wrote: Hi All Yes, there is no ALC output from the Flex 3000 - hopefully will be addressed in future models. Hopefully it won't. ALC is not desirable. If it takes 100 watts to drive the ALS 600 to full power (as reported by

Re: [Flexradio] FW: Flex 3000 Question from a Newbie

2012-04-08 Thread Jim Barber
If numbers count, I concur with Bill. I use my 5000A with both high-mu triodes (8877, YC156) and screamingly high gain tetrodes (GU-74B) and it works like a dream without ALC. With the triodes, IMD3 is usually in the low -40's, with the Russian tetrodes coming in a little dirtier. Solid-state