Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-16 Thread Bob McGwier
True but I think you already know I did HMM using mixtures of Gaussians in 1986 in possibly the best set of technical papers I ever wrote at our common place of business. In a more refined version of it later, applied to Markov chains and not to continuous time and space stochastic

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-16 Thread Frank Brickle
Bob McGwier wrote: True but I think you already know I did HMM using mixtures of Gaussians in 1986 in possibly the best set of technical papers I ever wrote at our common place of business. Yeah, but I was thinking as well of ICA here. Also, I'm pretty convinced there is an

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-16 Thread Jim Lux
At 08:18 AM 7/16/2007, Bob McGwier wrote: True but I think you already know I did HMM using mixtures of Gaussians in 1986 in possibly the best set of technical papers I ever wrote at our common place of business. I assume these weren't published in IEEE publications? (or at least not in

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-12 Thread Robert McGwier
MUSIC was invented where Frank and I worked for over 20 years together in the middle 1960's. It can be a problem living behind locked doors marked SHUT UP AS YOU LEAVE. But your point is well taken. One or more of these existing algorithms can be made to work. There is a large body of

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-12 Thread Robert McGwier
If we were rendering in OpenGL, that would come for free and along for the ride. Yes, I am on my hobby horse. I do not like harming the performance of the overall radio because we are afraid somebody might have a ten generation old graphics card. Please, somebody give me some more ammo. Bob

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-11 Thread Jim Dunstan
At 08:25 PM 7/10/2007 -0400, you wrote: Hi Ray, Point well taken. I shouldn't have described what I had in mind as splatter. Over modulation would probably be more correct. I DX foreign medium wave stations from Asia and the Pacific, and the #1 reason this type of DXing is a big challenge is

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-11 Thread Guy Atkins
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter? SNIP Hi, Have you tried RF phasing to reduce local MF interference? For example you would be receiving A3Z on your phased array or Beverage and you can be receiving KOMO on a small loop antenna. Combine the signals and adjust the loop so its phase

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-11 Thread Charles Greene
PM To: Guy Atkins Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter? The notch filter should be able to work anywhere in the passband of the audio ~180 KHz when running at 192 KHz sampling rate. Eric has the last word on that. -Tim

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-11 Thread Thompson_Peter
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Charles Greene Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:20 PM To: Eric Wachsmann; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter? All, As I was [one] of the submitters of the manual notch filter, I have given some

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-11 Thread Al
A couple of observations... 1. ) I think a simple notch filter that is outside of the filter pass band, or its immediate skirts, is NOT going to effect anything that you hear within the filter pass band. Any transmitter splatter or intermod products that occurs before the ADC can not be

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-11 Thread Bob McGwier
Here is the grand experiment we are going to try when we finally get to calm down from the Flex5000 rush to finish. I have done enough matlab/octave experimentation to expect it to work so long as we define what it is we mean by work. Suppose you are listening to weak signal A. Strong

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-11 Thread jbmcl
Wow! until this I had not thought there was any bennfit to out of passband notch. Jim - W4YXU - Original Message - From: Bob McGwier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ray Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Manual

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-11 Thread lwloen
All, As I was [one] of the submitters of the manual notch filter, I have given some thought on how it can be implemented. Open discussion. I like to click on a signal to do something with it, and I am dedicated to the mouse. However, that is not going to work, as clicking on a signal

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-11 Thread Eric Wachsmann
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter? Frank's approach of using a 3D style control sounds exciting and I'm guessing lends itself to many other functions for which it is currently difficult to provide a suitable display

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-11 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
I like this idea quite a bit. Mainly because I use this concept all the time in other applications (IDE, Paint Shop Pro, Word, etc). I set my sights much lower. I'm just hoping some day in the distant future we'll be able to re-size the panadapter display that we already have. Ah, to

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-11 Thread Jim Dunstan
At 10:03 AM 7/11/2007 -0700, you wrote: Yes, I've done this before with the Radio Plus Quantum Phaser and my current Wellbrook phased array. Some of my MW DX friends have done extensive work in this area by modifying the MFJ phaser, or building Misek-based units such as the phasers Dallas Lankford

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-11 Thread Frank Brickle
On 7/11/07, Bob McGwier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...It is strongly correlated and we should be able to derive a filter that will predict a version of the signal that is IN your passband. The property of the signal we will optimize on is to reduce the energy of the interference to the best

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-11 Thread Jim Lux
At 11:41 AM 7/11/2007, Bob McGwier wrote: Here is the grand experiment we are going to try when we finally get to calm down from the Flex5000 rush to finish. I have done enough matlab/octave experimentation to expect it to work so long as we define what it is we mean by work. Suppose you are

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-11 Thread Frank Brickle
On 7/11/07, Jim Lux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AKA an adaptive signal canceller. You adapt to find the strongest signal (in time/frequency, as with radar STAP), subtract it from the input. Then find the next strongest signal, subtract it, etc. That's one way, but it's not what Bob was

[Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-10 Thread n3wt
Over the past 8 months, there has been a couple of enhancement requests to add Manual Notch filter for CW. I always thought a manual notch could be useful on PowerSDR, same as it is on other conventional steamboat rigs. But this is one of the few good enhancement requests that has not been

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-10 Thread Tim Ellison
is complete. -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:57 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter? Over the past 8 months, there has been a couple

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-10 Thread KE2SL
I agree a manual notch filter would be useful and would be even better if you could right click the offending signal when in panadapter display and have a selection to apply notch filter. Also it should be available in other modes as well as CW. Just some wishful thinking :-) Dave WO2X

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-10 Thread Jim McLester
10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter? The manual notch filter is important. All of the programming effort for the past few months has been towards getting the FLEX-5000 working with PowerSDR and not on providing new features. Enhancements and new features will get put back

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-10 Thread Tim Ellison
-Original Message- From: Jim McLester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:14 PM To: Tim Ellison; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter? Maybe implemented as a reverse of the present bandpass. Would really help

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-10 Thread lwloen
I agree a manual notch filter would be useful and would be even better if you could right click the offending signal when in panadapter display and have a selection to apply notch filter. Also it should be available in other modes as well as CW. Just some wishful thinking :-) Dave WO2X

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-10 Thread Ken N9VV
Interestingly, in the digi world (PSK31) both HamScope and MixW have notch filters built right into their waterfall's. You simply right click on the offending signal and notch it out (up to about 40db I think). de ken n9vv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree a manual notch filter would be useful

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-10 Thread Guy Atkins
Tim, Would a notch like this be able to work outside of the filter passband, but within the panadapter window? It would be great to put a wide manual notch on an adjacent channel signal to knock down splatter. However, this might work better (or at all) with software phasing algorithms such as

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-10 Thread Tim Ellison
: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter? Tim, Would a notch like this be able to work outside of the filter passband, but within the panadapter window? It would be great to put a wide manual notch on an adjacent channel signal to knock down splatter. However

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-10 Thread Eric Wachsmann
] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 5:29 PM To: Guy Atkins Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter? The notch filter should be able to work anywhere in the passband of the audio ~180 KHz when running at 192 KHz sampling rate. Eric

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-10 Thread Robert McGwier
KE2SL wrote: I agree a manual notch filter would be useful and would be even better if you could right click the offending signal when in panadapter display and have a selection to apply notch filter. Also it should be available in other modes as well as CW. Just some wishful thinking

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-10 Thread Robert McGwier
Sounds like a plan to me. Bob Jim Lux wrote: At 03:47 PM 7/10/2007, Eric Wachsmann wrote: There are multiple issues at hand here. First, the technical aspect of how to implement the filter. I'm sure there are latency considerations unless we somehow combined this into our existing RX

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-10 Thread Ray Andrews
Guy, Of course, a notch filter could be coded to work anywhere in the range of the panadapter display. However, don't hold your breath waiting for it to do what you want. If the splatter is caused by an improperly adjusted transmitter somewhere else on the band, then the splatter consists of

Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-07-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Manual notch filter? Guy, Of course, a notch filter could be coded to work anywhere in the range of the panadapter display. However, don't hold your breath waiting for it to do what you want

[Flexradio] Manual notch filter?

2007-06-10 Thread George
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