Re: [Flightgear-devel] c310 Panel

2001-12-08 Thread Erik Hofman
John Wojnaroski wrote: This is about as ugly as it gets. This will go on your permanent record. :-) :-) :-) Argggh, banished to the netherworld... I should have realized that! :-0 There's nothing wrong with the netherw.. oh, you did'nt say Netherlands. Pfew. :-) Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: priority, but are things an average person will immediately notice and ding us for) then I would be tempted to roll out the 0.7.9 release soon. (I'm thinking specifically of the startup-onground sinking into the ground and spinning slowly bug in JSBSim and the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] buildings or planes?

2001-12-08 Thread David Megginson
Alex Perry writes: You're thinking of the US. In most of Canada (outside of the big urban areas), they're the only big buildings around, and, once you get out of the southern agricultural areas, the only large clearing in the woods. Really ?! I've been wanting to spend a few

[Flightgear-devel] OT: Building dual throttles.

2001-12-08 Thread Wolfram Kuss
I think this subject is currently OT (on topic :-)). Here is someone that built himself dualthrottles and connected them to the PC. Since its mainly about the hardware, this should be interesting to Linux people as well: http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kds/main/howto/dualthr.htm Bye bye, Wolfram.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Christian Mayer writes: I haven't tried the c172-yasim (assuming that when it doesn't work with JSBsim and doesn't work with LaRCsim it doesn't work at all). After I tried it it worked!! But after a few seconds (10 or so) sitting on the runway doing nothing it crashed (most probably the

[Flightgear-devel] Minimal HUD Ladder

2001-12-08 Thread Norman Vine
Thought that I had sent this before but after a fresh CVS up I noticed the minimal hud still had a problem $FG_ROOT / Huds / Instruments / Minimal / hudladder.xml The attached gets rid of the 'munged' rungs cruft Cheers Norman PropertyList ladders l1 nameartificialhorizon/name

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Ross Golder
I'm planning to look into updating the autoconf stuff for OpenGC and getting it to build on my machines here, but it probably won't be for a few days. I'm bogged down in sendmail code for a mailserver upgrade this week :( -- Ross On Sat, 2001-12-08 at 00:49, Damion Shelton wrote: Hi... The

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Jon S. Berndt
So what exactly does blade element-ish mean? Is this sorta like a realtime digital wind tunnel sorta thing? Thanks, Nothing of the sort. But Andy appears to have a reasonable approximation for subsonic, anyhow. Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Missing file in base

2001-12-08 Thread Tony Peden
On Sat, 2001-12-08 at 07:39, Jon S. Berndt wrote: Just did a fresh cvs update -dP on the base directory and still get this message: Error loading aircraft file: Failed to open file at /home/Jon/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172-set.xml Check for and remove --fdm or --aircraft options in your

Re: Including instrumenst was: Re: [Flightgear-devel] c310 Panel

2001-12-08 Thread Andy Ross
I found the following magazine review, which I used to fix the performance of the YASim model. It's the turbo variant. http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/content/specs/79cessnaturbo.html Also, this site, which is a buyer's guide for the 310 family, has lots of good trivia about equipment

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Andy Ross
Christian Mayer wrote: But one other observation: I couldn't lift of with the YAsim C310 (172 and 747 worked fine). I can accelerate and pull. The front lifts of but i'm not gaining any altitude. Was your engine RPM stuck at 1700? There is a version skew problem with the c310.xml file.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Norman Vine
Christian Mayer writes: It would be really great if 0.8.0 - or even 0.7.9 works with MSVC. The compiler errors are mostly fixed by now :), but I've got still problems running FGFS w/o having the maths blow up during the first frame (happens currently with both, JSBsim and LaRCsim, but on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Christian Mayer
Norman Vine wrote: Christian Mayer writes: It would be really great if 0.8.0 - or even 0.7.9 works with MSVC. The compiler errors are mostly fixed by now :), but I've got still problems running FGFS w/o having the maths blow up during the first frame (happens currently with both, JSBsim

[Flightgear-devel] patch for fg_props.cxx

2001-12-08 Thread Ross Golder
Strange, I can't compile clean flightgear CVS without including options.hxx in fg_props.cxx. How come other people are compiling happily without this patch? -- Ross Index: src/Main/fg_props.cxx === RCS file:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear with Opengc

2001-12-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John, You need to check out the your copy from the SF repository as your SF user ID, not anonymously. It sounds like that is what you did. Regards, Curt. John Wojnaroski writes: The source tree on opengc.org currently only builds on windows. We've had some problems convincing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Missing file in base

2001-12-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik, It appears I forget to commit the required file to the repository, but it looks like John must have done so in my absense today. I think if you do a cvs update on the base cvs tree, the --aircraft=c172 option will now work. Curt. Erik Hofman writes: Tony Peden wrote: On Sat,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: Eventually (hopefully soon), this will be extended to support turbulence and wash effects at each surface. There are some performance worries there, though, since if each surface depends on the wash effects of all the others you go from O(N) to O(N^2) in the number of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear with Opengc

2001-12-08 Thread John Wojnaroski
You need to check out the your copy from the SF repository as your SF user ID, not anonymously. It sounds like that is what you did. $ export CVS_RSH=ssh $ cvs -z3:ext:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/opengc/ co opengc cvs server: Updating opengc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear with Opengc

2001-12-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
CVS remembers your passwords after the first time you enter it. Look for ~/.cvspass and you'll see what it does. Curt. John Wojnaroski writes: You need to check out the your copy from the SF repository as your SF user ID, not anonymously. It sounds like that is what you did.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Tony Peden
On Sat, 2001-12-08 at 16:34, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Andy Ross writes: Eventually (hopefully soon), this will be extended to support turbulence and wash effects at each surface. There are some performance worries there, though, since if each surface depends on the wash effects of all the

[Flightgear-devel] Engine start/c310

2001-12-08 Thread John Wojnaroski
Hi Just downloaded the latest CVS. Has anyone been able to start the right engine? could not find the/an answer going back througt the email thread. JW

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Engine start/c310

2001-12-08 Thread Martin Olveyra
On 2001.12.09 00:04 John Wojnaroski wrote: Hi Just downloaded the latest CVS. Has anyone been able to start the right engine? could not find the/an answer going back througt the email thread. JW Have you added the command line parameter --aero=c310 ?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Engine start/c310

2001-12-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Olveyra writes: On 2001.12.09 00:04 John Wojnaroski wrote: Hi Just downloaded the latest CVS. Has anyone been able to start the right engine? could not find the/an answer going back througt the email thread. JW Have you added the command line parameter --aero=c310 ?

[Flightgear-devel] c310 engine adjustments

2001-12-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Question: What is the procedure for adjusting mixture with a constant speed prop such as the 310 has? In the c172 I had been tweaking for max rpm and then backing off a touch to the rich side. When I adjust mixture on the c310 engines, the only guage that moves is the temp. Shouldn't the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] external view

2001-12-08 Thread John Check
On Saturday 08 December 2001 10:07 pm, you wrote: Has anybody noted that the 3D plane model in the external view disappears when we are on air? You need to adjust the pilot (camera) offset. What's happening is you are in the middle if the model looking back. I'll put some reasonable defaults

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c310 engine adjustments

2001-12-08 Thread John Check
On Saturday 08 December 2001 10:43 pm, you wrote: Question: What is the procedure for adjusting mixture with a constant speed prop such as the 310 has? In the c172 I had been tweaking for max rpm and then backing off a touch to the rich side. When I adjust mixture on the c310 engines,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c310 engine adjustments

2001-12-08 Thread Andy Ross
Just in case someone is wondering, this is a definition that eluded me for a LONG time: what, exactly, is mixture. Mixture is this: the ratio, by volume (!) of the liquid fuel and gasseous air being drawn into the cylinders. That's why it has to be adjusted with altitude -- the liquid densities

Re: [Flightgear-devel] external view

2001-12-08 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001.12.08 21:53]: On Saturday 08 December 2001 10:07 pm, you wrote: Has anybody noted that the 3D plane model in the external view disappears when we are on air? You need to adjust the pilot (camera) offset. What's happening is you are in the middle if the model