[Flightgear-devel] Joystick names bugs and patches

2003-09-16 Thread Thomas Arendsen Hein
Hi! I had a little trouble getting my joystick recognized. First, js_demo didn't show the name, because FG_PLIB_JOYSTICK_GETNAME disappeared in configure.ac 1.20. The first patch fixes js_demo.cxx. Then I noticed a spelling error in the joystick name in sidewinder-precision-pro.xml which is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup time option

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am just commiting an additional command line option to specify a starting time of day in the sense of: Did you probabliy mix up other options ? I usually run FlightGear with --start-date-lat=2002:04:11:11:11:11 and enjoy a nice morning. After the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Joining

2003-09-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Paulo Henrique S. de Santana wrote: Hi, I am listening the list for a time (about six months) until a have a (time) chance to join and try to collaborate with the project. I have some ideias that need to be cleaned and discussed and a lot of areas in the Flightgear development that i want to learn

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Joystick names bugs and patches

2003-09-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Thomas Arendsen Hein wrote: Hi! I had a little trouble getting my joystick recognized. First, js_demo didn't show the name, because FG_PLIB_JOYSTICK_GETNAME disappeared in configure.ac 1.20. The first patch fixes js_demo.cxx. Then I noticed a spelling error in the joystick name in

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/T38 T38.xml, 1.2, 1.3

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/T38 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv23354 Modified Files: T38.xml I'd vote for a modification of the 3D model. The cones behind the engines don't look _that_ realistic when sitting idle on the runway:

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/T38 T38.xml, 1.2, 1.3

2003-09-16 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/T38 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv23354 Modified Files: T38.xml I'd vote for a modification of the 3D model. The cones behind the engines don't look _that_ realistic when sitting idle on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/T38

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic BOUVIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/T38 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv23354 Modified Files: T38.xml I'd vote for a modification of the 3D model. The cones behind the engines don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/T38

2003-09-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: and _if_ they appear the probably should be sort of yellow/orange, not white, Not really, the T-38 doesn't have an afterburner. It's meant to be the heath buildup that disturbs the airflow and hence influences the visibility in the specific area. Erik

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Cockpit panel.cxx, 1.16,

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Cockpit In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv26208 Modified Files: panel.cxx Although this improves the altimeter display in the default aircraft, the c310u3a-3d looks a bit strange now at my end:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/T38

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's meant to be the heath buildup that disturbs the airflow and hence influences the visibility in the specific area. Personally I consider the cones a bit dominant for this purpose, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who

[Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: data/Aircraft/T38

2003-09-16 Thread David Culp
Erik's right. The cones are supposed to represent a mirage effect from heat, which actually exists but isn't cone shaped. The real effect looks like a tube for a very short distance then becomes turbulent and blends in to the atmosphere (and is carried downwind). In the daytime the plume

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound probs

2003-09-16 Thread Bernie Bright
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:06:10 +0200 Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are we still interested in migration to LibSDL? (cause I am ;)) ..shoot! Whoever codes it gets the credit for it. ;-) I've got an version sort of working using SDL_mixer. Unfortunately neither SDL nor SDL_mixer have

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] VMAP0 resolution

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Norm is right that the only robust solution is to build a big, central database-driven GIS repository, where we can check out individual polygons, lines, and elevation points, edit them, and then check them back in again (preferably in a distributed

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] VMAP0 resolution

2003-09-16 Thread Norman Vine
Martin Spott writes: I wonder how long it takes until someone imports the world's SRTM data into GRASS (with a networked database backend like PostGIS). AFAIK lots of people are doing this I assume quite a few people not related to FlightGear already have data that could be merged.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] VMAP0 resolution

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Spott writes: I wonder how long it takes until someone imports the world's SRTM data into GRASS (with a networked database backend like PostGIS). AFAIK lots of people are doing this Do you suggest we should do so too ? Why don't people share

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Boeing 717-200 progress

2003-09-16 Thread Jim Wilson
Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Good evening, Just as a matter of professional technique, the pilot's opinion is the = last place to go for verification. Do every possible thing you can to = He he...an airliner pilot that designs flight dynamics models in his spare time may not totally agree

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Cockpit panel.cxx, 1.16,

2003-09-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: Erik Hofman said: Martin Spott wrote: Although this improves the altimeter display in the default aircraft, the c310u3a-3d looks a bit strange now at my end: http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/Panel_04.png I don't get it. Is this OpenGL implementation dependent or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Boeing 717-200 progress

2003-09-16 Thread Nick
Jim, Maybe so, but the Boeing test pilots I worked with were OK with it. They realize that they are uncalibrated and adaptive (with few notable exceptions). Nickolas HeinMorgantown WV - Original Message - From: Jim Wilson To: FlightGear developers discussions

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Although this improves the altimeter display in the default aircraft, the c310u3a-3d looks a bit strange now at my end: http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/Panel_04.png What depth buffer do you have? I tested it with my

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Cockpit panel.cxx, 1.17,

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Cockpit In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv3773 Modified Files: panel.cxx Log Message: Try to prevent z-buffer problems for video cards with a 16-bit depth buffer _Slight_ improvement on a 24 bpp

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Boeing 717-200 progress

2003-09-16 Thread Matevz Jekovec
The 3D model is not that far yet. I'm not very good when it comes to modelling. Its completely made in blender (2.27). No movable parts yet. I realized that the ac-export python script does not use the names for the meshes that are given in blender. Is anyone else using only blender to create

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound probs

2003-09-16 Thread Matevz Jekovec
Bernie Bright wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:06:10 +0200 Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are we still interested in migration to LibSDL? (cause I am ;)) ..shoot! Whoever codes it gets the credit for it. ;-) I've got an version sort of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Cockpit panel.cxx, 1.17,

2003-09-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Cockpit In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv3773 Modified Files: panel.cxx Log Message: Try to prevent z-buffer problems for video cards with a 16-bit depth buffer _Slight_ improvement on a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Boeing 717-200 progress

2003-09-16 Thread Jim Wilson
Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jim, Maybe so, but the Boeing test pilots I worked with were OK with it. They realize that they are uncalibrated and adaptive (with few notable exceptions). Nickolas Hein Morgantown WV True. I think the problem (in my experience) is often the lack of

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Cockpit panel.cxx, 1.18,

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Cockpit In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv8404 Modified Files: panel.cxx Log Message: Don't just disable depth buffer writes but instead disable the depth test all together By accident my message

[Flightgear-devel] ssgLoadAC error on KEMT + patch

2003-09-16 Thread Thomas Arendsen Hein
Hallo! When trying to start fgfs --airport=KEMT I get: WARNING: ssgLoadAC: Failed to open '/fg_root/Aircraft/c172/Models/c172-dpm.ac/Aircraft/c172/Models/c172-dpm.ac' for reading with current SimGear/FlightGear CVS. The attached patch fixes the problem, since sgLoad3DModel expects fg_root as

Re: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Boeing 717-200 progress

2003-09-16 Thread nick.hein
Jim, Make your best effort to find the data before you have a pilot take a look at it. If you'd like I can try some of my sources at Boeing - I think they might still talk to me. Nick From: Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/09/16 Tue AM 11:16:33 CDT To: FlightGear developers

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup time option

2003-09-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott writes: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am just commiting an additional command line option to specify a starting time of day in the sense of: Did you probabliy mix up other options ? I usually run FlightGear with --start-date-lat=2002:04:11:11:11:11 and enjoy a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/T38 T38.xml, 1.2, 1.3

2003-09-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On 16 Sep 2003 08:39:26 GMT, Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/T38 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv23354 Modified Files: T38.xml I'd vote for a modification

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Boeing 717-200 progress

2003-09-16 Thread Manuel Bessler
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 05:08:15PM +0200, Matevz Jekovec wrote: The 3D model is not that far yet. I'm not very good when it comes to modelling. Its completely made in blender (2.27). No movable parts yet. I realized that the ac-export python script does not use the names for the meshes that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Boeing 717-200 progress

2003-09-16 Thread Manuel Bessler
On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 10:19:45PM -0500, David Culp wrote: I'd like to hear what you think. (esp. concerning the flightmodel) Very nice! I took it around the pattern once, and it flies well. I'll fly it some more later. Off hand I'd say it needs a little more drag when fully

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Boeing 717-200 progress

2003-09-16 Thread Manuel Bessler
On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 11:33:44PM -0400, Nick wrote: Good evening, Just as a matter of professional technique, the pilot's opinion is the last place to go for verification. Do every possible thing you can to check your results objectively. Then tell the pilot you've done every possible

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Boeing 717-200 progress

2003-09-16 Thread Nick
Manuel, If you find errors in the MSFS let me know. I have a friend who is a developer there, on CFS but he talks to the MSFS guys too. Just for information he is a fully-trained (Kansas Univ.) engineer who used to do aero model development for Boeing. Also a great guy. I used to go to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Boeing 717-200 progress

2003-09-16 Thread David Megginson
Manuel Bessler writes: Sure, if a model flies 'by the numbers' is a good start, but there are other properties that need to be simulated well for a good model, esp. outside of cruise (cruise is probably the simplest part). It's all numbers, of course: it's just that the numbers for the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup time option

2003-09-16 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Did you probabliy mix up other options ? I usually run FlightGear with --start-date-lat=2002:04:11:11:11:11 and enjoy a nice morning. After I just checked in some changes that may or may not help your situation. Hi Curt, Starting with