Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-16 Thread Christian Mayer
David Megginson wrote: > > Yech. (By the way, in Ontario [at least] we abbreviate "kilometers > per hour" to "clicks", i.e. "You won't average better than 70 or 80 > clicks with all the construction." I wonder if that will ever become > standard usage anywhere else.) I'm sure I've heard about

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-16 Thread David Megginson
C. Hotchkiss writes: > Ah, yes. I recall that now. A very interesting incident. Amusing that a > low tech solution like dip sticks is still being used. Also instructive to > efforts to convert the aircraft industry over to SI. It should be done, > but with great care. Yes, I agree, on both p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-16 Thread C. Hotchkiss
David Megginson wrote: > C. Hotchkiss writes: > > > The only place... Maybe > > somebody can recall these instances with better accuracy. Either > > way, history condemned us to English units. > > Yes, ditto for the Gimli Glider, the Air Canada 767 that ran out of > fuel at altitude and was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-16 Thread jacco
So David Megginson says: [...] > ditto for the Gimli Glider, the Air Canada 767 that ran out of > fuel at altitude and was brought down safely on a drag strip (former > runway) in Gimli, Manitoba: > > http://www.frontier.net/~wadenelson/successstories/gimli.html > > Air Canada had just switc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-16 Thread David Megginson
C. Hotchkiss writes: > The only place that I know of that manufactures aircraft (or at > least did routinely) with SI based instrumentation was the old > Soviet Union. Some of their aircraft either sold to customers, or > operating outside the SU were involved in at least two mid air > colli

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-16 Thread Jim Wilson
"C. Hotchkiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > David, > The only place that I know of that manufactures aircraft (or at least did > routinely) with SI based instrumentation was the old Soviet Union. Some of > their aircraft either sold to customers, or operating outside the SU were > involved in a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-16 Thread Martin Dressler
> I'm sure that there exist > SI aircraft panels somewhere, but I have not yet seen photos of any in > general aviation. look here http://www.musicabona.com/martin/pic/tocna11.jpg Madr ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.fl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-15 Thread C. Hotchkiss
> ... > If a FDM wants to use obscure units internally (e.g. because the > > developers are use to them) that's their choice. But when we have > > very universal data that a lot of people need (users, panel > > programmers, ...) we should use an international standard. > > I agree with the pri

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-15 Thread Christian Mayer
Jon S Berndt wrote: > > On Wed, 15 May 2002 12:52:39 -0400 > David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I have no objection personally to doing everything in SI -- I'm > >Canadian, so I'm very used to metric. > > I wish that the U.S. had standardized on metric, and that > I had grown up on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-15 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 15 May 2002 12:52:39 -0400 David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have no objection personally to doing everything in SI -- I'm >Canadian, so I'm very used to metric. I wish that the U.S. had standardized on metric, and that I had grown up on it, and that everything we use was b

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-15 Thread David Megginson
Christian Mayer writes: > Great that we've got a standard place for these properties now. > > But I'm really concerned that these values aren't in SI units. > > So most of the world (except the US and perhaps a few other countries) > can't use those units anymore without big research (aks

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-15 Thread Andy Ross
Christian Mayer wrote: > And there are already 1.5 - 2 FDMs that use SI units (BalloonSim and > much more important YASim). Woo hoo! Just a few short months in the source tree and already YASim is *much* more important than BaloonSim. World domination, here I come! As far as the SI vs. English

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-15 Thread Christian Mayer
David Megginson wrote: > > Currently, the environment subsystem manages the following properties: > > /environment/visibility-m > /environment/temperature-sea-level-degc > /environment/temperature-degc > /environment/pressure-sea-level-inhg > /environment/pressure-inhg > /environment/density-sea

[Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-14 Thread David Megginson
Currently, the environment subsystem manages the following properties: /environment/visibility-m /environment/temperature-sea-level-degc /environment/temperature-degc /environment/pressure-sea-level-inhg /environment/pressure-inhg /environment/density-sea-level-slugft3 /environment/density-slugft