RE: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: it would behoove the project to stop thinking in spherical terms xcept when doing user input / output. Converting back and forth between sperical and cartesian representation is a time sink that doesn't need to happen at all as far as the inner workings of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread David Megginson
Tony Peden writes: The latter would certainly be easier, no code would need to be changed. Wouldn't it have the effect of forcing client code to keep track of which vehicle was being referenced in the tree? A good example here, I think, would be the view manager. Another good example

Re: [Flightgear-devel] View hat on FlighSimYoke USB

2002-04-05 Thread David Megginson
Alexander Kappes writes: I should mention that the problems occur under Linux 2.4.? (? 10) and that the hat switch works ok under Windows though I don't know the mapping there as it is hidden. So I think that the explanation from David Megginson (bug in the kernel joystick code) sounds

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Possible joystick changes

2002-04-05 Thread Tony Peden
--- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Peden writes: Did you ever get your pedals and yoke working? If so, what did you do? Yes, I did (I don't have a yoke yet, but the pedals are working fine). Good to hear. I sent you (Tony) a message at your seneca.me.umn.edu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread David Megginson
Jim Brennan jjb - writes: Now to be really fancy, you'll need to model the pitch and roll of the carrier deck. And the changes in height above the sea as the landing area moves up and down! Right. And for Canadian aircraft carriers, you'll have to ... ... oh, sorry, we don't have

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: But we really need another name and I realize that you are trained in 'English' and will argue for (1) below however I believe (3) below is paramount in this case as this class refers to a 'single point' not a 'set of points' in the 'mathematical sense and Locus is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Jon Stockill
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, David Megginson wrote: Jim Brennan jjb - writes: Now to be really fancy, you'll need to model the pitch and roll of the carrier deck. And the changes in height above the sea as the landing area moves up and down! Right. And for Canadian aircraft

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Norman Vine writes: But we really need another name and I realize that you are trained in 'English' and will argue for (1) below however I believe (3) below is paramount in this case as this class refers to a 'single point' not a 'set of

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Norman Vine writes: But we really need another name and I realize that you are trained in 'English' and will argue for (1) below however I believe (3) below is paramount in this case as this class refers to a 'single point' not a 'set of points' in the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: Or maybe FGLocalCoordor just FGCoord? I'd be worried about confusion with sgCoord. All the best, David -- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Norman Vine
Jim Wilson writes: David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Norman Vine writes: But we really need another name and I realize that you are trained in 'English' and will argue for (1) below however I believe (3) below is paramount in this case as this class refers to a 'single

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 10:27:44 -0500 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's something more interesting (and Canadian) -- what about landing a Beaver or Otter on a large (i.e. 5km x 5km) moving ice floe during the spring thaw up north? What kind of crazy place is this Can ada? I've seen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 10:10:10 -0600 (CST) Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about something simple like FGPosition or FGPos ... I thought of it so it gets my vote. :-) Curt. We thought of it three years ago (FGPosition). It's already in JSBSim. :-) Jon

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Norman Vine
Jon S Berndt writes: On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 10:10:10 -0600 (CST) Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about something simple like FGPosition or FGPos ... I thought of it so it gets my vote. :-) Curt. We thought of it three years ago (FGPosition). It's already in JSBSim. Yes BUT ...

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 12:11:43 -0500 Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes BUT ... your FGPosition is what I would call FGRigidBody ie you have velocity and acceleration terms IMHO the class heirarchy should be something like Given any 100 people, you'll get 400 different FDMs. :-) Our

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Norman Vine
Jon S Berndt writes: On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 12:11:43 -0500 Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes BUT ... your FGPosition is what I would call FGRigidBody ie you have velocity and acceleration terms IMHO the class heirarchy should be something like Given any 100 people, you'll get 400

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S Berndt writes: On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 12:58:57 -0500 Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I was just trying to point out that IMHO we shouldn't adopt the JSBSIM::FGPosition class as is in that it has in the more general enviroment of FGFS xtra baggage ... Oh, I certainly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:00:00 -0500 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon S Berndt writes: That's actually becoming a bit of a problem -- I couldn't use FGModel for the 3D model either because JSBSim had already taken it. As Andy keeps reminding us, it would be a good idea to put JSBSim

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: Jon S Berndt writes: We thought of it three years ago (FGPosition). It's already in JSBSim. That's actually becoming a bit of a problem -- I couldn't use FGModel for the 3D model either because JSBSim had already taken it. As Andy keeps reminding us, it would be a

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Norman Vine
Jon S Berndt writes: . In hindsight, we might have preferred to not call everything FG I volunteer to change the JSBSim usage of the 'FG' prefix to anything you want :-) 15-minutes-of-sed'ly-yr's Norman ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Norman Vine) [2002.04.06 12:25]: Jon S Berndt writes: . In hindsight, we might have preferred to not call everything FG I volunteer to change the JSBSim usage of the 'FG' prefix to anything you want :-) 15-minutes-of-sed'ly-yr's 15 minutes? $ find . -name

[Flightgear-devel] Boost problems

2002-04-05 Thread Erik Hofman
What should we do about this? Erik /opt/include/boost/type_traits/arithmetic_traits.hpp, line 243: error(1029): expected an expression ::value)); ^ /opt/include/boost/type_traits/arithmetic_traits.hpp, line 254: error(1029): expected an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:04:53 -0500, David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What about landing a helicopter on top of a moving train in a James Bond emulator? This is a nasty problem. I do think that it should be possible to locate the ssgVertexTable under

Re: [Flightgear-devel] glass cockpit

2002-04-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:34:30 -0800, John Wojnaroski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 000b01c1dc07$5bb19110$1902a8c0@COACH: Start flightgear in a seperate window with the socket option fgfs --opengc=socket,out,30,127.0.0.0.1,5800,udp (+whatever else you

[Flightgear-devel] Aircraft position up for adoption

2002-04-05 Thread Jim Wilson
Now that the viewer is somewhat free of the model code, there are some other problems that need to be dealt with. Apparently it is still the authority for where the airplane is (even though the FDMs know perfectly well). My guess is the problems are in the Scenery directory. I'd like to stop

[Flightgear-devel] FrameRate !!

2002-04-05 Thread Norman Vine
It seems as if we are losing FrameRate rather quickly all figures are for at rest no HUD or Panel Default location at Noon Brakes on MingW32 compiled on Win2k Geforce2 GTS No model shown ie. View[0] March 16 ~78 fps last week ~71 fps today ~66 fps this is a negative change

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FrameRate !!

2002-04-05 Thread Jim Wilson
Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It seems as if we are losing FrameRate rather quickly all figures are for at rest no HUD or Panel Default location at Noon Brakes on MingW32 compiled on Win2k Geforce2 GTS No model shown ie. View[0] March 16 ~78 fps last week ~71 fps

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Alex Perry
. In hindsight, we might have preferred to not I volunteer to change the JSBSim usage of the 'FG' prefix to anything you want :-) 15-minutes-of-sed'ly-yr's 15 minutes? $ find . -name *.[ch]?? -o -name *.h \ perl -pi.bak -e 's/FG/JSB/g' 10 seconds to write, 14.83 minutes to fix

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with templates

2002-04-05 Thread Bernie Bright
Marcio Shimoda wrote: Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be the complete error message, so I cannot se what's happening. You might want to post the complere error message, together with the OS and compiler you are using. Erik Well, this is a long warning/error message... I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioningquestions

2002-04-05 Thread Bernie Bright
Jon S Berndt wrote: On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:00:00 -0500 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon S Berndt writes: That's actually becoming a bit of a problem -- I couldn't use FGModel for the 3D model either because JSBSim had already taken it. As Andy keeps reminding us, it would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Moving carrier, and Repositioning questions

2002-04-05 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Alex Perry writes: . In hindsight, we might have preferred to not I volunteer to change the JSBSim usage of the 'FG' prefix to anything you want :-) 15-minutes-of-sed'ly-yr's 15 minutes? $ find . -name *.[ch]?? -o -name *.h \ perl -pi.bak -e 's/FG/JSB/g' 10 seconds to

[Flightgear-devel] Build Problems using MSVC and gcc

2002-04-05 Thread Jonathan Polley
I just got done updating from CVS and tried to rebuild. MSVC built just fine, but when fgReshape() gets called for the first time, globals-get_current_view() returns NULL when it is called for the first time. I then tried to do the same build under linux to see if it had the same problem.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Boost problems

2002-04-05 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Bernie Bright writes: Erik Hofman wrote: What should we do about this? Erik Seems to be boost related. What compiler and platform? I seem to remember you are running an old IRIX system. Could you check http://www.boost.org/status/compiler_status.html to see if your platform

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build Problems using MSVC and gcc

2002-04-05 Thread Curtis L. Olson
For SimGear did you run cvs update -d ? It may be that you didn't get the new directory pulled over. By default cvs update doesn't grab new directories. Curt. Jonathan Polley writes: I just got done updating from CVS and tried to rebuild. MSVC built just fine, but when fgReshape() gets

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build Problems using MSVC and gcc

2002-04-05 Thread Jonathan Polley
I used 'cvs update -dP' to pull the updates. On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 09:47 PM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: For SimGear did you run cvs update -d ? It may be that you didn't get the new directory pulled over. By default cvs update doesn't grab new directories. Curt. Jonathan Polley

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build Problems using MSVC and gcc

2002-04-05 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jonathan Polley writes: I used 'cvs update -dP' to pull the updates. Hmmm, you might try rerunning autogen.sh; configure; make ... Curt. On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 09:47 PM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: For SimGear did you run cvs update -d ? It may be that you didn't get the new

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build Problems using MSVC and gcc

2002-04-05 Thread Jim Wilson
Jonathan Polley writes: make: Making all in src-libs make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jwpolley/SimGear/src-libs' make[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jwpolley/SimGear/src-libs' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1***

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FrameRate !!

2002-04-05 Thread Norman Vine
Jim Wilson writes: Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It seems as if we are losing FrameRate rather quickly all figures are for at rest no HUD or Panel Default location at Noon Brakes on MingW32 compiled on Win2k Geforce2 GTS No model shown ie. View[0] March 16 ~78 fps last

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Boost problems

2002-04-05 Thread Erik Hofman
Bernie Bright wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Bernie Bright writes: Erik Hofman wrote: What should we do about this? Erik Seems to be boost related. What compiler and platform? I seem to remember you are running an old IRIX system. Could you check