On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 10:04, Matthew Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 04:19, Tony Peden wrote:
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:08, David Megginson wrote:
Matthew Johnson writes:
Good point, something goes wrong on a commercial airliner very few,
if anyone ever gets out alive...
Matt
I am all for warming up to Windows developers, or any from anywhere for
that matter, or any end user (in fact and ordinary end user with basic
experience can shed a lot of interesting light onto many applications).
But I have indeed asked many times why people run certain pieces of
To all concerned
May we please put this thread to rest and allow FGFS
to return to soaring above petty OS bigotry
Thanks
Norman
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On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 16:54, Norman Vine wrote:
To all concerned
May we please put this thread to rest and allow FGFS
to return to soaring above petty OS bigotry
Yes! No one cares about which OS you're using (I really do not!). Or
applications, please take David's contention based on what
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 7:54 pm, Norman Vine wrote:
To all concerned
May we please put this thread to rest and allow FGFS
to return to soaring above petty OS bigotry
Thanks
Norman
Amen to that
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John Check [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 7:54 pm, Norman Vine wrote:
To all concerned
May we please put this thread to rest and allow FGFS
to return to soaring above petty OS bigotry
Thanks
Norman
Amen to that
Ah...blessed silence :-)
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Outlook is a program that (doesn't have to) but seems happy to run
just about any program anyone on the internet wants to send it. I've
heard stories that in some cases, outlook will open/run the attachment
silently behind the scenes even if you just
Jim Wilson writes:
Tinky Winky mail?
One of my bosses has a purple motorcycle he has knicknamed tinky
winky. He even had a two-tone custom seat cover made for it. :-) It
looks real sharp.
Well, this isn't microsoft bashing, and it isn't based on things
that happened in the past. While some
Oh well, it's fun to pick on MS, and they do deserve most of it, if
for no other reason to pressure them to do better. But you will have
security problems and issues no matter what software and OS you run.
It may be fun, but when it extends beyond Microsoft-bashing to implied
disrespect for
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 08:09, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
Ok, I hate to drag this off topic thread further off topic. But the
other poster was right. FlightGear isn't the best place for MS
bashing. These days it is almost as much fun to bash SCO:
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:08, David Megginson wrote:
Matthew Johnson writes:
Good point, something goes wrong on a commercial airliner very few,
if anyone ever gets out alive...
Not at all. Things go wrong in airliners flown by scheduled carriers
all the time, and usually no one
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 01:25, Matevz Jekovec wrote:
Not at all. Things go wrong in airliners flown by scheduled carriers
all the time, and usually no one suffers anything more than stress
from a delay or rerouting. Injuries and fatalities are very rare in
scheduled airline incidents or
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 04:19, Tony Peden wrote:
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:08, David Megginson wrote:
Matthew Johnson writes:
Good point, something goes wrong on a commercial airliner very few,
if anyone ever gets out alive...
Not at all. Things go wrong in airliners flown by
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 23:48, Mally wrote:
Oh well, it's fun to pick on MS, and they do deserve most of it, if
for no other reason to pressure them to do better. But you will have
security problems and issues no matter what software and OS you run.
It may be fun, but when it extends
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gene Buckle) [2003.08.27 10:12]:
Gene Buckle writes:
Thanks Norman. I wish they'd stop writing such crap. *sigh*
g.
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Norman Vine wrote:
FYI
http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html
It's just that I had far better things to
Matthew Johnson writes:
Yes, if you see Bruce Willis on the plane ask to leave :). I should have
phrased my thoughts a little better, any major failure on a commercial
airline tends to result in heavy loss of life...Although I'd think there
are far less id10t's in the air compared to
Matt
The main swipes aren't so much at end users, as most just run what the
computer came with, I am running Outlook Express because thats what
came with the computer, this is the most common scenario, oh and it
doesn't matter how much MS advertises any fault or any setting that
helps
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:23, Mally wrote:
Matt
The main swipes aren't so much at end users, as most just run what the
computer came with, I am running Outlook Express because thats what
came with the computer, this is the most common scenario, oh and it
doesn't matter how much MS
Gene,
I'm a little late to this conversation, but I just wanted to point out
that this advisory was released on March 3, 2003. This is not a new
exploit in sendmail. If you've been running an unpatched sendmail this
whole time, it may be too late.
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Good grief. Well I'm sure that
FYI
http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html
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Gene Buckle writes:
Thanks Norman. I wish they'd stop writing such crap. *sigh*
g.
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Norman Vine wrote:
FYI
http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html
On average for the last 10 years, Sendmail has probably been good for
one of these alerts per week. :-)
On Monday 25 August 2003 9:44 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
Gene Buckle writes:
Thanks Norman. I wish they'd stop writing such crap. *sigh*
g.
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Norman Vine wrote:
FYI
http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html
On average for the last 10 years, Sendmail has
Curt
Outlook is a program that (doesn't have to) but seems happy to run
just about any program anyone on the internet wants to send it. I've
heard stories that in some cases, outlook will open/run the attachment
silently behind the scenes even if you just delete the message without
reading
Norman Vine wrote:
FYI
http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html
Again? Use Postfix instead.
Erik
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:52:39 +0100,
Mally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Curt
Outlook is a program that (doesn't have to) but seems happy to run
just about any program anyone on the internet wants to send it.
I've heard stories that in some cases, outlook will
Gene Buckle writes:
Thanks Norman. I wish they'd stop writing such crap. *sigh*
g.
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Norman Vine wrote:
FYI
http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html
On average for the last 10 years, Sendmail has probably been good for
one of these alerts per week.
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 02:52 am, Mally wrote:
Curt
Outlook is a program that (doesn't have to) but seems happy to run
just about any program anyone on the internet wants to send it. I've
heard stories that in some cases, outlook will open/run the attachment
silently behind the scenes
But wait a second ... this is a scary thought because *we* develop
software. Do we want to be held to those same standards as we might
propose for microsoft? If someone exploits a bug or oversight in
flightgear to do damage, do we want to be held liable? We could just
exempt ourselves from
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 11:11, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
Arnt Karlsen writes:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:09:51 -0500,
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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..to put it short: picture yourself on your single seat bike going
full bore on the freeway just like
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Martin Spott wrote:
I started running Sendmail based systems on the net about 9 years ago and I
never had a system compromised. It is sufficient to know what you're doing.
Switching over to Postfix is not the solution for your specific problem,
it's just
Gene Buckle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gene Buckle writes:
Thanks Norman. I wish they'd stop writing such crap. *sigh*
g.
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Norman Vine wrote:
FYI
http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html
On average for the last 10 years, Sendmail has
Martin Spott wrote:
I started running Sendmail based systems on the net about 9 years ago and I
never had a system compromised. It is sufficient to know what you're doing.
Switching over to Postfix is not the solution for your specific problem,
it's just the illusion of a fix.
Nope. Postfix as a
Gene Buckle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gene Buckle writes:
Thanks Norman. I wish they'd stop writing such crap. *sigh*
g.
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Norman Vine wrote:
FYI
http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html
On average for the last 10 years, Sendmail has probably been
Matthew Johnson writes:
Good point, something goes wrong on a commercial airliner very few,
if anyone ever gets out alive...
Not at all. Things go wrong in airliners flown by scheduled carriers
all the time, and usually no one suffers anything more than stress
from a delay or rerouting.
I think that my long-held [EMAIL PROTECTED] address will have to be
euthanised. It has been getting many tens of thousands of messages a
day, nearly all false bounces or (ironically) warnings from
virus-checking software, and even just the CPU load for the procmail
filtering for those messages (I
I think that my long-held [EMAIL PROTECTED] address will have to be
euthanised. It has been getting many tens of thousands of messages a
Yeah, it's pretty bad. Microsoft ought to be completely embarrassed. For
those of you whose ISPs provide a filtering service I'd advise taking it. I
pay
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 12:06:35 -0400,
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Please, people, if you have a choice, don't read e-mail with Outlook,
or at least, don't read the flightgear lists with that program. I
know that some of you are forced to use Outlook
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I think that my long-held [EMAIL PROTECTED] address will have to be
euthanised. It has been getting many tens of thousands of messages a
day, nearly all false bounces or (ironically) warnings from
virus-checking software, and even just the CPU load for
Mally wrote:
David
I'm very sorry to hear about your plague of false virus warnings. I get a few of
these myself, but nothing on the scale you're seeing. The
possibility/probability that it will force you to drop megginson.com is very
unwelcome news.
I don't know if you intentionally said Outlook
Oh lord. And they are going to ditch Outlook Express in favor of
Outlook. Will they ever learn?
I wasn't aware of that. Is there an announcement somewhere?
Mally
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Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.512 / Virus
Mally wrote:
Oh lord. And they are going to ditch Outlook Express in favor of
Outlook. Will they ever learn?
I wasn't aware of that. Is there an announcement somewhere?
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/13/238245mode=threadtid=109tid=113tid=126tid=187tid=95
Erik
Outlook is actually a more capable version of Outlook Express (thus the name
Express). I use Outlook. I haven't had any problems with it. I just don't
open the wrong kinds of attachments. Problem solved. Also, I use the
filtering service my ISP makes available.
Jon
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Mally [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Anyone using Outlook Express should ensure that they are using the latest
version, Outlook Express 6, and that they have the appropriate options set in
the Security, Send and Receive tabs of the Tools, Options... dialog.
Outlook (a different program), remains
Jon Berndt writes:
Yeah, it's pretty bad. Microsoft ought to be completely
embarrassed. For those of you whose ISPs provide a filtering
service I'd advise taking it. I pay about $2 a month for this
service and it has caught ALL of the virii headed for my Inbox.
I regularly filter both
Jim
The options shouldn't be there. The whole idea of a mime-type (or file
extension type) support in an email attachment, that comes to the user from
outside, containing executable code or script that has full access to the
system, which is either either launched automatically or clicked
Thanks. It looks as if they're not exactly ditching Outlook Express, just not
doing any further development. I can't see users switching en masse to a paid
version of Outlook as MS appear to hope. It's more likely that they'll switch to
alternative (non-MS) email clients, which I'm sure many of
Mally wrote:
Thanks. It looks as if they're not exactly ditching Outlook Express, just not
doing any further development. I can't see users switching en masse to a paid
version of Outlook as MS appear to hope. It's more likely that they'll switch to
alternative (non-MS) email clients, which I'm
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