Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: Yes, exactly. That's what I meant when saying that we wouldn't have to rewrite the whole thing. I doing just that once before and the result was the model came out flat shaded. We need the part that traverses the tree and calculates the normals which is buried in the

Re: [flightgear] Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-03 Thread Jim Wilson
Frederic Bouvier [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I guess the close factor is a percentage of the dimensions of the whole model. I had those problems with the knobs of the A320 but the instruments modelled independently are fine. Hmmm... Are you modeling in blender or ac3d? The reason why I ask is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-02 Thread Erik Hofman
Matevz Jekovec wrote: What I'm hoping is there will be a bunch of good quality low polygons aircraft available also (for people like myself using less than optimal hardware). My J-22 has only 2500 vertices and looks nice besides ;). ... and still works pretty well on my system. Somehow the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-02 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 02 October 2003 03:52, Jim Wilson wrote: BTW there is a plib bug showing up on the bottom. That is one example of how the ac3d loader really is screwing up the shading. My guess is the optimization is to blame. Checking it out in wire frame mode (in flightgear) might reveal

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-02 Thread Jim Wilson
Lee Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thursday 02 October 2003 03:52, Jim Wilson wrote: BTW there is a plib bug showing up on the bottom. That is one example of how the ac3d loader really is screwing up the shading. My guess is the optimization is to blame. Checking it out in wire

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-02 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: That works sometimes. The problem is that the optimization tries to merge polys together that it thinks it can. The exact criteria I haven't gotten into yet. Probably looking harder at the code would reveil the exact process. The reason I haven't looked hard is that I am

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-02 Thread Jim Wilson
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jim Wilson wrote: That works sometimes. The problem is that the optimization tries to merge polys together that it thinks it can. The exact criteria I haven't gotten into yet. Probably looking harder at the code would reveil the exact process. The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-02 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 02 October 2003 21:21, Jim Wilson wrote: Lee Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thursday 02 October 2003 03:52, Jim Wilson wrote: BTW there is a plib bug showing up on the bottom. That is one example of how the ac3d loader really is screwing up the shading. My guess is

Re: [flightgear] Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-02 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Lee Elliott wrote: Ta for the explanation - it makes some sort of sense now and is understandable in the context of 'loose' vertices. I'd much rather it didn't try any optimisations with the geometry though - it's better fixed by fixing it in the model, imo. As this problem is mostly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-01 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Lee Great aircraft.You sure know how to make us feel inadequate.LOL Would just like to ask a couple of questions if I may What program did you use for the model. The texture looks like it is made in layers I have never seen this before.What did you use to make it. And now I am going to have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-01 Thread Erik Hofman
Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Lee Great aircraft.You sure know how to make us feel inadequate.LOL Just to get ahead of every one, the 10,000+ vertices are just too much for my poor O2. One every 20 seconds is slightly too slow for good simulation purposes. Try to get somewhere near 1,000 and you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-01 Thread Lee Elliott
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 11:42, Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Lee Great aircraft.You sure know how to make us feel inadequate.LOL Would just like to ask a couple of questions if I may What program did you use for the model. The texture looks like it is made in layers I have never seen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-01 Thread Lee Elliott
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 13:39, Erik Hofman wrote: Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Lee Great aircraft.You sure know how to make us feel inadequate.LOL Just to get ahead of every one, the 10,000+ vertices are just too much for my poor O2. One every 20 seconds is slightly too slow for good

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-01 Thread Jim Wilson
Lee Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wednesday 01 October 2003 13:39, Erik Hofman wrote: Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Lee Great aircraft.You sure know how to make us feel inadequate.LOL Just to get ahead of every one, the 10,000+ vertices are just too much for my poor O2. One

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-01 Thread Erik Hofman
Lee Elliott wrote: On Wednesday 01 October 2003 13:39, Erik Hofman wrote: Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Lee Great aircraft.You sure know how to make us feel inadequate.LOL Just to get ahead of every one, the 10,000+ vertices are just too much for my poor O2. One every 20 seconds is slightly too

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-01 Thread Jim Wilson
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Yeah - none of my models could be regarded as low-poly. Then again, the shapes of the models I tend to do are quite complex and not a simple tube like the majority of airliners. There's quite an overhead in doing the detail stuff like the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-01 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: Lee Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wednesday 01 October 2003 13:39, Erik Hofman wrote: Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Lee Great aircraft.You sure know how to make us feel inadequate.LOL Just to get ahead of every one, the 10,000+ vertices are just too much for my poor O2.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-01 Thread Jon S Berndt
Could anyone provide a screen dump image of this aircraft flying in FlightGear? Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-10-01 Thread Jim Wilson
Lee Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If it's not too much effort it's got to be worth looking into. Feel free to try reducing some of mine if you wish. I've had a little play with the reduce function in AC3D but to be honest, it's in the opposite direction to what I want to do. Sure,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-30 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Did anyone change anything with property names recently? My flight recorder is also broke now. :-( Not that I'm aware of. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Lee Elliott has just contributed an AN225 to the FlightGear project and I have just committed it to CVS. This aircraft is the biggest one built for FlightGear so far and it flies and looks really nice. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-29 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Lee Elliott has just contributed an AN225 to the FlightGear project and I have just committed it to CVS. This aircraft is the biggest one built for FlightGear so far and it flies and looks really nice. And the 747-400 quietly steps aside :-) BTW the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson writes: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Lee Elliott has just contributed an AN225 to the FlightGear project and I have just committed it to CVS. This aircraft is the biggest one built for FlightGear so far and it flies and looks really nice. And the 747-400

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-29 Thread David Culp
Lee Elliott has just contributed an AN225 to the FlightGear project and I have just committed it to CVS. Does the an225 need an an225-set.xml wrapper? Scanning command line for: --aircraft= aircraft = an225 Cannot find specified aircraft: an225 Scanning command line for: --aircraft=

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Culp writes: Lee Elliott has just contributed an AN225 to the FlightGear project and I have just committed it to CVS. Does the an225 need an an225-set.xml wrapper? Scanning command line for: --aircraft= aircraft = an225 Cannot find specified aircraft: an225 Oh, or more

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-29 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
David Culp wrote: Lee Elliott has just contributed an AN225 to the FlightGear project and I have just committed it to CVS. Does the an225 need an an225-set.xml wrapper? Scanning command line for: --aircraft= aircraft = an225 Cannot find specified aircraft: an225 Try with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-29 Thread David Culp
It should be there in the an225 directory (requires recent simgear/flightgear CVS.) If you have that, make sure you did a cvs update -d (to fetch newly created directories, which aren't fetched by default.) It isn't there as of ten minutes ago, so I made one. By the way, that's a great

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-29 Thread Christopher S Horler
One of these flew into work last year I think, It's quite spectacular to watch land, it's enormous, blots the horizon out. On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 16:24, Jim Wilson wrote: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Lee Elliott has just contributed an AN225 to the FlightGear project and I have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Culp writes: It should be there in the an225 directory (requires recent simgear/flightgear CVS.) If you have that, make sure you did a cvs update -d (to fetch newly created directories, which aren't fetched by default.) It isn't there as of ten minutes ago, so I made one. By the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-29 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:02:26 -0500 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anyone change anything with property names recently? My flight recorder is also broke now. :-( What's the date on JSBSim.cxx? There were some changes that were made to that file for engines, I think. If that was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-29 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:42:18 -0500 David Culp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Failed to untie property /consumables/fuel/tank[0]/level-gal_us Failed to untie property /consumables/fuel/tank[1]/level-gal_us Failed to untie property /engines/engine[0]/fuel-flow-gph Failed to untie property

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-29 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 29 September 2003 16:24, Jim Wilson wrote: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Lee Elliott has just contributed an AN225 to the FlightGear project and I have just committed it to CVS. This aircraft is the biggest one built for FlightGear so far and it flies and looks really

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AN225

2003-09-29 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 29 September 2003 16:24, Jim Wilson wrote: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Lee Elliott has just contributed an AN225 to the FlightGear project and I have just committed it to CVS. This aircraft is the biggest one built for FlightGear so far and it flies and looks really