Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pending v0.9.9 release

2005-11-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:32:22 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Erik Hofman wrote: Martin Spott wrote: RANTWe know exactly this phenomenon for several years now and to my [...] supporters for this idea./RANT Guess why the next release is 0.9.9 and not 1.0 and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pending v0.9.9 release

2005-11-12 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
Yep, but sipmly _delaying_ the next release doesn't cure anything. This only makes sense if the developers agree on a feature freeze and announce a bugfix-only phase. ..or if it can be enforced somehow. ;o) or that a separate branch is created for the feature freeze while the development

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pending v0.9.9 release

2005-11-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 03:24:21 +0200 (IST), Vassilii wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yep, but sipmly _delaying_ the next release doesn't cure anything. This only makes sense if the developers agree on a feature freeze and announce a bugfix-only phase. ..or if it can be enforced

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pending v0.9.9 release

2005-11-10 Thread Martin Spott
Vivian Meazza wrote: I only mention this because it indicates that the quality of our testing might not be quite as good as it should be as we move rapidly towards 1.0 RANTWe know exactly this phenomenon for several years now and to my observation very little changed in the meantime. The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pending v0.9.9 release

2005-11-10 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: RANTWe know exactly this phenomenon for several years now and to my observation very little changed in the meantime. The biggest success was to install a consensus that the pre-release phase should last at least two weeks. To my opinon two _months_ would be appropriate for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pending v0.9.9 release

2005-11-10 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Martin Spott wrote: RANTWe know exactly this phenomenon for several years now and to my [...] supporters for this idea./RANT Guess why the next release is 0.9.9 and not 1.0 and why 1.0 is released early next year? Yep, but sipmly _delaying_ the next release doesn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pending v0.9.9 release

2005-11-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: RANTWe know exactly this phenomenon for several years now and to my observation very little changed in the meantime. The biggest success was to install a consensus that the pre-release phase should last at least two weeks. To my opinon two _months_ would be appropriate for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pending v0.9.9 release

2005-11-10 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
--- Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm clever enough to realize that my idea of quality control is not necessary the best one for FG ;-)) I simply want to point out that the project is very well advised to have better quality control than it had for the past years. I have one or two

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pending v0.9.9 release

2005-11-10 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
Curt, One follow-up question. Are we still following the convention of odd-numbered releases being dev and even being stable. I ask as the Getting Start Guide still thinks so, and I'll correct it if it is wrong. -Stuart

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pending v0.9.9 release

2005-11-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Buchanan, Stuart wrote: Curt, One follow-up question. Are we still following the convention of odd-numbered releases being dev and even being stable. I ask as the Getting Start Guide still thinks so, and I'll correct it if it is wrong. We tried that. 'Officially' 0.8.0 is the current

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pending v0.9.9 release

2005-11-10 Thread Martin Spott
Buchanan, Stuart wrote: One follow-up question. Are we still following the convention of odd-numbered releases being dev and even being stable. I ask as the Getting Start Guide still thinks so, and I'll correct it if it is wrong. This clause should be removed - I remember it's in there, but

[Flightgear-devel] Pending v0.9.9 release

2005-11-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
As some of you may have noticed, I completed a prerelease of FlightGear-0.9.9(pre1) and SimGear-0.3.9(pre1). I haven't heard any complaints about the prerelease, so I am planning to do a pre2 release this week. If all goes well and we have no major show stoppers, I would like to start

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Pending v0.9.9 release

2005-11-09 Thread Innis Cunningham
Curtis L. Olson writes We haven't officially decided, but right now we are talking about doing a v1.0 release after the dust has settled on 0.9.9. That would likely happen sometime early 2006 after the holidays. This sounds good I have a 737 on the go but it won't be finished in a week.I