Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-26 Thread Jim Wilson
Arnt Karlsen said:

 On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:00:08 +0100, Al wrote in message 
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  On Friday 23 July 2004 15:23, Jim Wilson wrote:
  
   Sure enough, it's right there in Stroustrup.  The strange part is
   never having noticed this before now.  What is it with these
   developers at microsoft anyway? ;-)
  
  
  Since when have they had developers?
 
 ..define developer, the SCO Group claims to have 
 4000 world wide.  ;-)
 

Hehe...well let's see: anyone who ever purchased any of SCO's
Compilers/Development Packages (since 1982) plus everyone who ever purchased
or downloaded SCO's skunkware CD that with gcc on it.  Then add 20% for piracy
and that gives you 3981.  Close enough :-)

Best,

Jim


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:35:47 -, Jim wrote in message 
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 Arnt Karlsen said:
 
  On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:00:08 +0100, Al wrote in message 
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   On Friday 23 July 2004 15:23, Jim Wilson wrote:
   
Sure enough, it's right there in Stroustrup.  The strange part
is never having noticed this before now.  What is it with these
developers at microsoft anyway? ;-)
   
   
   Since when have they had developers?
  
  ..define developer, the SCO Group claims to have 
  4000 world wide.  ;-)
  
 
 Hehe...well let's see: anyone who ever purchased any of SCO's
 Compilers/Development Packages (since 1982) plus everyone who ever
 purchased or downloaded SCO's skunkware CD  that with gcc on it.  Then
 add 20% for piracy and that gives you 3981.  Close enough :-)

..aaand, deduct the registered 8,000 or so Groklawyers, 
we do it for copright law enforcement fun.  ;-)

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:00:08 +0100, Al wrote in message 
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 On Friday 23 July 2004 15:23, Jim Wilson wrote:
 
  Sure enough, it's right there in Stroustrup.  The strange part is
  never having noticed this before now.  What is it with these
  developers at microsoft anyway? ;-)
 
 
 Since when have they had developers?

..define developer, the SCO Group claims to have 
4000 world wide.  ;-)

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-23 Thread Jim Wilson
Bernie Bright said:

 Jim Wilson wrote:
 
 globals-get_tile_mgr()-all_queues_empty() and cur_fdm_state-get_inited())
 {
 ^^^
 ^^^
 Same here.
  
  
  That's a head scratcher.  Never would have thought that would compile like
  that.  Learn something new everyday.  
 
 C++ provides keyword equivalents to some operators:
 
 and 
 and_eq  =
 bitand  
 bitor   |
 compl   ~
 not !
 or  ||
 or_eq   |=
 xor ^
 xor_eq  ^=
 not_eq  !=
 
 However it seems that we should use the traditional operators to prevent 
 msvc from choking.
 

Sure enough, it's right there in Stroustrup.  The strange part is never having
noticed this before now.  What is it with these developers at microsoft
anyway? ;-)

Best,

Jim


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-23 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Jim Wilson wrote:

 Bernie Bright said:
 
  Jim Wilson wrote:
  
  globals-get_tile_mgr()-all_queues_empty() and cur_fdm_state-get_inited())
  {
   ^^^
  ^^^
  Same here.
   
   
   That's a head scratcher. Never would have thought that would compile like
   that. Learn something new everyday. 
  
  C++ provides keyword equivalents to some operators:
  
  and 
  and_eq =
  bitand 
  bitor |
  compl ~
  not !
  or ||
  or_eq |=
  xor ^
  xor_eq ^=
  not_eq !=
  
  However it seems that we should use the traditional operators to prevent 
  msvc from choking.
  
 
 Sure enough, it's right there in Stroustrup. The strange part is never having
 noticed this before now. What is it with these developers at microsoft
 anyway? ;-)

They don't consider that a variable declared in the initialization part of a for loop
must be seen as local to the loop. So, don't ask them to add new keywords.
They just invent new languages ( C#, J#, ... ) ;-)
I am not using their latest version though, but I am not keen to multiply 
programming styles in a single program.

-Fred


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-23 Thread Al West
On Friday 23 July 2004 15:23, Jim Wilson wrote:

 Sure enough, it's right there in Stroustrup.  The strange part is never
 having noticed this before now.  What is it with these developers at
 microsoft anyway? ;-)


Since when have they had developers?

Cheers,
Al

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[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote:

 Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Main
 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv28544/src/Main

 Modified Files:
 fg_init.cxx main.cxx
 Log Message:
 Jim Wilson: This patch prevents FDM execution until intial scenery load
completes making
 midair starts in the KSFO area possible again.

[...]

 ! if ( global_multi_loop  0) {
 ! // first run the flight model each frame until it is intialized
 ! // then continue running each frame only after initial scenery
load is complete.
 ! if (!cur_fdm_state-get_inited() or
fgGetBool(sim/sceneryloaded)) {

 ^^
Are we silently migrating the code to Pascal ?
This doesn't compile with MSVC.

 ***
 *** 1331,1334 
 --- 1340,1350 
   // END Tile Manager udpates

 + if (!fgGetBool(sim/sceneryloaded) and
globals-get_tile_mgr()-all_queues_empty() and cur_fdm_state-get_inited())
{
^^^
^^^
Same here.

-Fred



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-22 Thread Boris Koenig
Frederic Bouvier wrote:
! if (!cur_fdm_state-get_inited() or
fgGetBool(sim/sceneryloaded)) {
 ^^
Are we silently migrating the code to Pascal ?
This doesn't compile with MSVC.
lol, GREAT :-)
don't know about MSVC++, but how about ios646.h ?
-
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-22 Thread Jim Wilson
Frederic Bouvier said:

 Erik Hofman wrote:
 
  Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Main
  In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv28544/src/Main
 
  Modified Files:
  fg_init.cxx main.cxx
  Log Message:
  Jim Wilson: This patch prevents FDM execution until intial scenery load
 completes making
  midair starts in the KSFO area possible again.
 
 [...]
 
  ! if ( global_multi_loop  0) {
  ! // first run the flight model each frame until it is intialized
  ! // then continue running each frame only after initial scenery
 load is complete.
  ! if (!cur_fdm_state-get_inited() or
 fgGetBool(sim/sceneryloaded)) {
 
  ^^
 Are we silently migrating the code to Pascal ?
 This doesn't compile with MSVC.
 
  ***
  *** 1331,1334 
  --- 1340,1350 
// END Tile Manager udpates
 
  + if (!fgGetBool(sim/sceneryloaded) and
 globals-get_tile_mgr()-all_queues_empty() and cur_fdm_state-get_inited())
 {
 ^^^
 ^^^
 Same here.

That's a head scratcher.  Never would have thought that would compile like
that.  Learn something new everyday.  Most of my day job work has been in java
lately...which certainly doesn't allow such englishisms :-)

The only time I ever did any Pascal programming was back in the eighties, for
a this guy I knew with a chain of video stores.  He bought some program from a
company that went under and need something fixed.

Sorry about that :-)

Best,

Jim


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-22 Thread Bernie Bright
Jim Wilson wrote:
globals-get_tile_mgr()-all_queues_empty() and cur_fdm_state-get_inited())
{
   ^^^
^^^
Same here.

That's a head scratcher.  Never would have thought that would compile like
that.  Learn something new everyday.  
C++ provides keyword equivalents to some operators:
and 
and_eq  =
bitand  
bitor   |
compl   ~
not !
or  ||
or_eq   |=
xor ^
xor_eq  ^=
not_eq  !=
However it seems that we should use the traditional operators to prevent 
msvc from choking.

Bernie
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