Re: [Flightgear-devel] shared base package question
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 01:50:36AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..if there are GPL'ed alternatives, we should link to them. 7-Zip is LGPL http://7-zip.org/ Supported formats: 7z, ZIP, CAB, RAR, ARJ, GZIP, BZIP2, TAR, CPIO, RPM and DEB. 7-Zip works in Windows 98/ME/NT/2000/XP. Command line version of 7-Zip can be used in Linux via Wine program. 7-Zip is a free software distributed under the GNU Lesser General Public License. Regards, Manuel ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] shared base package question
Matevz Jekovec writes: I was always wondering why do we have seperated base packages for every OS? Shouldn't they be the same? (I rather asked here than go downloading:)) We really don't have separate base packages for separate OS's. We have one base package (.tar.gz and .tar.bz2 versions) and then we have a separate Windows .zip version since a lot of windows people don't have unix style archive extraction tools on their windows machines. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at' flightgear.org Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] shared base package question
Martin Spott wrote: Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:55:00 -0500, "Curtis L. Olson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We really don't have separate base packages for separate OS's. We have one base package (.tar.gz and .tar.bz2 versions) and then we have a separate Windows .zip version since a lot of windows people don't have unix style archive extraction tools on their windows machines. ..can these use tarballs named .tgz instead of .tar.gz etc ? I'd vote for another approach. PowerArchiver for Windows, unlike WinZip, _is_ able to deal with .tar.gz archives - at least Version 6.11 does (definitely, just tested). From the FAQ, that's contained in the 6.11 package: Q: What is the difference between PowerArchiver and other archive utilities? A: PowerArchiver is easier, it's FREE and it has more features than most other archive programs. [...] Q: Can I put a link to your page from my home page? A: Yes, you are very welcome to. On the PowerArchiver web site you can find small pictures of "PowerArchiver Now" which you can freely put on your page and link to http://www.powerarchiver.com Q: Can we put PowerArchiver on our CD-ROM or distribute it with our magazine? A: Definitely! I will be very happy that you did. ?nstead of offering a second base package archive, we'd be probably better with offering PowerArchiver from the FG servers (with credits to the author somewhere), Martin. All WinRAR, WinACE and WinIMP are able to treat .tar.gz file types. Also WinZIP is able to unzip them, but requires external program for this. IMO we should leave things as they are now for a certain time. For newer releases if we ran out of disk space, we could have only .tgz archive left then, but I would still leave .zip file otherwise. If I were administrator, I should only move the zip shared package from win32 folder to the shared folder. The names of the base packages should be the same, but only the extensions should differ. That's the reason why I was confused from the beginning anyway. - Matevz ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] shared base package question
I was always wondering why do we have seperated base packages for every OS? Shouldn't they be the same? (I rather asked here than go downloading:)) - Matevz ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] shared base package question
Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:55:00 -0500, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We really don't have separate base packages for separate OS's. We have one base package (.tar.gz and .tar.bz2 versions) and then we have a separate Windows .zip version since a lot of windows people don't have unix style archive extraction tools on their windows machines. ..can these use tarballs named .tgz instead of .tar.gz etc ? I'd vote for another approach. PowerArchiver for Windows, unlike WinZip, _is_ able to deal with .tar.gz archives - at least Version 6.11 does (definitely, just tested). From the FAQ, that's contained in the 6.11 package: Q: What is the difference between PowerArchiver and other archive utilities? A: PowerArchiver is easier, it's FREE and it has more features than most other archive programs. [...] Q: Can I put a link to your page from my home page? A: Yes, you are very welcome to. On the PowerArchiver web site you can find small pictures of PowerArchiver Now which you can freely put on your page and link to http://www.powerarchiver.com Q: Can we put PowerArchiver on our CD-ROM or distribute it with our magazine? A: Definitely! I will be very happy that you did. Ínstead of offering a second base package archive, we'd be probably better with offering PowerArchiver from the FG servers (with credits to the author somewhere), Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] shared base package question
On 8/14/03 at 10:14 AM Martin Spott wrote: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..can these use tarballs named .tgz instead of .tar.gz etc ? I'd vote for another approach. PowerArchiver for Windows, unlike WinZip, _is_ able to deal with .tar.gz archives - at least Version 6.11 does (definitely, just tested). Um, Winzip deals just fine with tar.gz, and has done for many versions, if you ignore the fact that it leaves a temporary copy of the tar file in the temp dir each time it extracts one. There was a problem a while ago that Netscape 3/4.x would rename the extension tar.gz to something wierd that the archiver wouldn't recognise, which might possibly be alleviated by using .tgz instead, but how many people use older Netscapes now? Cheers - Dave ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] shared base package question
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:55:00 -0500, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Matevz Jekovec writes: I was always wondering why do we have seperated base packages for every OS? Shouldn't they be the same? (I rather asked here than go downloading:)) We really don't have separate base packages for separate OS's. We have one base package (.tar.gz and .tar.bz2 versions) and then we have a separate Windows .zip version since a lot of windows people don't have unix style archive extraction tools on their windows machines. ..can these use tarballs named .tgz instead of .tar.gz etc ? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] shared base package question
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Erik Hofman wrote: That's because slackware uses .tar.gz files as packages. .tgz isn't slackware specific in any way. No, but it makes my life a bit easier :-) -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] shared base package question
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't name them .tgz ! .tgz are Slackware specific packages, so .tar.gz is a better name. I'm glad I'm not the only one who was worried about that :-) -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] shared base package question
Am Donnerstag, 14. August 2003 13:16 schrieb Matevz Jekovec: All WinRAR, WinACE and WinIMP are able to treat .tar.gz file types. Also WinZIP is able to unzip them, but requires external program for this. IMO we should leave things as they are now for a certain time. For newer releases if we ran out of disk space, we could have only .tgz archive left then, but I would still leave .zip file otherwise. Don't name them .tgz ! .tgz are Slackware specific packages, so .tar.gz is a better name. Best Regards, Oliver C. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] shared base package question
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:20:13 +0100, David Luff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 8/14/03 at 10:14 AM Martin Spott wrote: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..can these use tarballs named .tgz instead of .tar.gz etc ? I'd vote for another approach. PowerArchiver for Windows, unlike WinZip, _is_ able to deal with .tar.gz archives - at least Version 6.11 does (definitely, just tested). Um, Winzip deals just fine with tar.gz, and has done for many versions, if you ignore the fact that it leaves a temporary copy of the tar file in the temp dir each time it extracts one. There was a problem a while ago that Netscape 3/4.x would rename the extension tar.gz to something wierd that the archiver wouldn't recognise, which might possibly be alleviated by using .tgz instead, but how many people use older Netscapes now? ..afair, in WinZip, .tar.gz just needed a 2'nd Extract button click, and of course that extra disk space. ;-) ..if there are GPL'ed alternatives, we should link to them. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
