Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-02 Thread Wolfram Kuss
A very sad day indeed :-(. Our thoughts are with you, especially relatives and those connected to the Shuttle. Tony wrote: I find it a little hard to believe that a piece of insulation could have such an effect. Those tiles are designed to be impact tolerant and it seemed clear from the press

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:47:00 -0600, Jon Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dunno, prpbably their energy wasn't enough, but couldn't they try to make it to the IIS and use a Progress (IIRC) to make it back, if they figured out that this shuttle wasn't save

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 06:42, Jon Berndt wrote: For those of you who may not have heard, the Space Shuttle Columbia appears to have broken up on entry as it passed south of Dallas while at a speed of mach 10+. Oh my God :(. No other words I am afraid... Any thoughts on what may have happened?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Elad Yarkoni
Once upon a time, you were sitting and writing: For those of you who may not have heard, the Space Shuttle Columbia appears to have broken up on entry as it passed south of Dallas while at a speed of mach 10+. Sad day for all of us. From the Israeli POV, it is especially sad, as the first

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: During ascent there was some ice that broke loose and impacted the left wing underside near the elevon and the ice chunk disintegrated on impact. There was some concern that the protective tiles that cover the surfaces which are exposed to the most heat

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Jon Berndt
No doubt now that the focus will be on the left wing. But I'm wondering, is there anything that could have been done had the assessment gone the other way? ..heavy sigh... I do not believe so. Perhaps there ought to be, though. The focus probably will be more on preventing insulation

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:07:48 -, Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jon Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: During ascent there was some ice that broke loose and impacted the left wing underside near the elevon and the ice chunk disintegrated on impact.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Christian Mayer
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:07:48 -, Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jon Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: During ascent there was some ice that broke loose and impacted the left wing underside near the elevon and the ice chunk

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Tony Peden
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 14:56, Jon Berndt wrote: No doubt now that the focus will be on the left wing. But I'm wondering, is there anything that could have been done had the assessment gone the other way? ..heavy sigh... I do not believe so. Perhaps there ought to be, though. The focus

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Matthew Johnson
On 1 Feb 2003, Tony Peden wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 14:56, Jon Berndt wrote: No doubt now that the focus will be on the left wing. But I'm wondering, is there anything that could have been done had the assessment gone the other way? ..heavy sigh... I do not believe so.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Tony Peden
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 16:51, Matthew Johnson wrote: On 1 Feb 2003, Tony Peden wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 14:56, Jon Berndt wrote: No doubt now that the focus will be on the left wing. But I'm wondering, is there anything that could have been done had the assessment gone the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 02 Feb 2003 00:59:04 +0100, Christian Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:07:48 -, Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jon Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: During

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Jon Berndt
Dunno, prpbably their energy wasn't enough, but couldn't they try to make it to the IIS and use a Progress (IIRC) to make it back, if they figured out that this shuttle wasn't save enough to return? ..assuming the orbits were close enough, would it work for 10 people? They were in the