Re: [Flightgear-devel] improving VOR indication (patch for navradio.cxx/hxx)

2008-08-29 Thread John Denker
On 08/28/2008 12:04 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Here is a little patch that changes the behaviour of the VOR CDI and OFF-flag for indicators like the HSI when getting outside the range of the VOR station. The benefit is: - No more jitter for flag and needles That's not a benefit.

[Flightgear-devel] Zeppelin NT (ZLT-NT) update

2008-08-29 Thread Anders Gidenstam
Hi all, Could someone with CVS access apply this update for my Zeppelin NT, please? http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/aircraft_updates/ZLT-NT-20080828.tar.bz2 - Added a multiplayer copilot. - Some FDM updates. The archive is formatted by fg-submit. The files in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Zeppelin NT (ZLT-NT) update

2008-08-29 Thread Curtis Olson
Hi Anders, I have committed your updates. I saw the goodyear blimp put on a show at EAA Oshkosh this year. It flew down the flight light and then did a roaring 45 degree climb-out. Not quite as awesome as the F-22, but it still was fun to watch after seeing it just float around for 2 days.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] f16 speedbrakes

2008-08-29 Thread Erik Hofman
Alex Romosan wrote: i hate to bring this up again but i still think the speedbrakes don't work as they should, instead generating quite a lot of lift. i've tested this on final approach at about 160-170 knots, speedbrakes on; i can keep the plane level. retract the speedbrakes, the plane

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Zeppelin NT (ZLT-NT) update

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Spott
I think Ralf Gerlich has quite some expertise on this one - his home airfield is the place where these beasts are being built and he's one of these guys who want to know every detail :-) As far as I remember he also has a nice livery for the Gummiwoosch, yet I don't know wether it's ready for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] f16 speedbrakes

2008-08-29 Thread Alex Romosan
Erik Hofman writes: Believe me, this is correct behavior, and this is why: i found a nice article about flying in an f16: http://www.avweb.com/news/skywrite/181916-1.html this is the part about the speed brakes: Here's where the speed brakes come in handy, I'll open em up. And you'll

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Zeppelin NT (ZLT-NT) update

2008-08-29 Thread Curtis Olson
Ok, all done, thanks for putting up with my idiosyncrasies. :-) Curt. On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Anders Gidenstam [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi all, Could someone with CVS access apply this update for my Zeppelin NT, please?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Zeppelin NT (ZLT-NT) update

2008-08-29 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Curtis Olson wrote: Ok, all done, thanks for putting up with my idiosyncrasies. :-) Thanks! Unfortunately, I messed up and sent off older versions of a few files.. The new versions are here: http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/aircraft_updates/ZLT-NT_update.tar.gz Sorry

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Zeppelin NT (ZLT-NT) update

2008-08-29 Thread Curtis Olson
Oh man, you are wasting my time here! On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Anders Gidenstam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Curtis Olson wrote: Ok, all done, thanks for putting up with my idiosyncrasies. :-) Thanks! Unfortunately, I messed up and sent off older versions of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] f16 speedbrakes

2008-08-29 Thread Erik Hofman
Alex Romosan wrote: Erik Hofman writes: Believe me, this is correct behavior, and this is why: i found a nice article about flying in an f16: http://www.avweb.com/news/skywrite/181916-1.html this is the part about the speed brakes: Here's where the speed brakes come in handy,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] f16 speedbrakes

2008-08-29 Thread Alex Romosan
Erik Hofman writes: Alex Romosan wrote: I felt what happens! It seemed my face was being pulled from my skull. I couldn't believe how effective those speed brakes were. An F-16's speed brakes are located at the back of the fuselage either side of the engine nacelle, and really look

Re: [Flightgear-devel] f16 speedbrakes

2008-08-29 Thread gerard robin
On ven 29 août 2008, Erik Hofman wrote: Alex Romosan wrote: Erik Hofman writes: Believe me, this is correct behavior, and this is why: i found a nice article about flying in an f16: http://www.avweb.com/news/skywrite/181916-1.html this is the part about the speed brakes:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] f16 speedbrakes

2008-08-29 Thread Erik Hofman
gerard robin wrote: A Only my 2 cents, if the question is not stupid :) How does the fly-by-wire, regarding the speedbrake lift effect ? What happens (with regard to the fly-by-wire system) is this: Speedbrake deflection causes a pitching moment which the FCS automatically compensates

Re: [Flightgear-devel] f16 speedbrakes

2008-08-29 Thread Erik Hofman
Alex Romosan wrote: Erik Hofman writes: Alex Romosan wrote: I felt what happens! It seemed my face was being pulled from my skull. I couldn't believe how effective those speed brakes were. An F-16's speed brakes are located at the back of the fuselage either side of the engine

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Zeppelin NT (ZLT-NT) update

2008-08-29 Thread Ralf Gerlich
Hi! Martin Spott wrote: I think Ralf Gerlich has quite some expertise on this one - his home airfield is the place where these beasts are being built and he's one of these guys who want to know every detail :-) As far as I remember he also has a nice livery for the Gummiwoosch, yet I don't

[Flightgear-devel] Way, way, way off topic!

2008-08-29 Thread Curtis Olson
This is way way way off topic, but some of you mind find it interesting and I have a very small connection to this adventure. http://junkraft.blogspot.com/ These guys just arrived in Honolulu after sailing a raft made out of plastic junk and a Cessna 310 fuselage from Los Angeles. They left

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-29 Thread Christian Schmitt
Thomas wrote: Thanks for that review. I'm still wary of the auto line term conversion and would probably favor disabling it. I'm more concerned about the 2 GB repo size limit listed in the Known issues in the release notes. I don't think that will work for FG. Am I correct in assuming

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Spott
Christian Schmitt wrote: As I already wrote here yesterday, the fgdata repo needs currently approx 1GB of diskspace on my machine here. This is a bit surprising, as the repository _without_ checkout should have approximately this size: hypersphere: 15:58:01 ~ du -hs git/fgdata/ GIT/fgdata/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Spott
Thomas wrote: Thanks for that review. I'm still wary of the auto line term conversion and would probably favor disabling it. The usual Unix tools have been _very_ reliable about telling different file types for decades and I'd assume (read: I'm not certain) that GIT on Windows would use the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] f16 speedbrakes

2008-08-29 Thread Alex Romosan
Erik Hofman writes: Sorry, I got the data from windtunnel test data performed by NASA. can you give me a pointer as to where i could get this data? thanks. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Way, way, way off topic!

2008-08-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:00:54 -0500, Curtis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is way way way off topic, but some of you mind find it interesting and I have a very small connection to this adventure. http://junkraft.blogspot.com/ The problem is that even though the plastic