Re: [Flightgear-devel] c172p pitch at cruise question

2008-12-02 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 02 décembre 2008, Heiko Schulz wrote: The answer is that the flight dynamics is unrealistic, and has been for years. Redrawing the aircraft won't help much (if any). -- The lift curve is unrealistic, which explains the observations that started this thread. -- The

[Flightgear-devel] Tarball of bleeding edge CVS snapshot

2008-12-02 Thread Fabian Grodek
Hello, I've been unable to open the link to the tarball of the bleeding edge CVS snapshot found in the Download Souce page: http://cvs.flightgear.org/cgi-bin/viewvc/viewvc.cgi/source.tar.gz?view=tar Is something wrong with that page? Fabian

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c172p pitch at cruise question

2008-12-02 Thread Martin Spott
Dave, Heiko, Heiko Schulz wrote: Notice that in the video 1. the tail is higher in cruise than what we have in fgfs for the new model. 2. the nose wheel is below the main wheels in cruise. 3. in fgfs, the tail cone is presently below ground at touch down. [...] I wait for a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tarball of bleeding edge CVS snapshot

2008-12-02 Thread Csaba Halász
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Fabian Grodek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've been unable to open the link to the tarball of the bleeding edge CVS snapshot found in the Download Souce page: http://cvs.flightgear.org/cgi-bin/viewvc/viewvc.cgi/source.tar.gz?view=tar Is something wrong

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tarball of bleeding edge CVS snapshot

2008-12-02 Thread Curtis Olson
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Csaba Halász wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Fabian Grodek wrote: Hello, I've been unable to open the link to the tarball of the bleeding edge CVS snapshot found in the Download Souce page:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tarball of bleeding edge CVS snapshot

2008-12-02 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- Csaba Halász a écrit : On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Fabian Grodek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've been unable to open the link to the tarball of the bleeding edge CVS snapshot found in the Download Souce page:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c172p pitch at cruise question

2008-12-02 Thread Curtis Olson
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Martin Spott wrote: - With a 'properly' (TM) inflated front wheel damper, the C172 has the tendency of having its tail surprisingly low when standing on the ground at a common configuration: Max fuel capacity, one pilot (of approx. 80 kg) and some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tarball of bleeding edge CVS snapshot

2008-12-02 Thread Fabian Grodek
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Frederic Bouvier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Csaba Halász a écrit : On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Fabian Grodek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've been unable to open the link to the tarball of the bleeding edge CVS snapshot found in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 172 FDM

2008-12-02 Thread Tom Betka
I have several hundred hours (if not 1000) in a Cessna 172 as both the PIC and an instructor, and believe that the flight dynamics are pretty good in the 172S model. Having said that, I will admit that I have only flown the emulation with a joystick--but recently we have developed a driver for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 172 FDM

2008-12-02 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hello, I have several hundred hours (if not 1000) in a Cessna 172 as both the PIC and an instructor, and believe that the flight dynamics are pretty good in the 172S model. Having said that, I will admit that I have only flown the emulation with a joystick--but recently we have developed

[Flightgear-devel] geo.elevation returns bumpy results

2008-12-02 Thread S Andreason
Hi Mathias or Tim, Why does geo.elevation return values that jump up and down as much as 1.6 ft.? Especially on the runway, which geo.info returns zero for bumpiness. Look at this: http://seahorsecorral.org/images/fgfs/walker-geognd.png

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 172 FDM

2008-12-02 Thread Martin Spott
Heiko Schulz wrote: It would be great to hear how FlightGear is working with such professional sim-controls. And it would be better to hear how realistic the fdm is- and where are things which could be improved. We had such a nice thingie (including the 'proper' pedals) this year at the

[Flightgear-devel] Video about Fixed Point Stabilization

2008-12-02 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, and again FlightGear is used for developement as you can see and read here: http://vimeo.com/877752 and http://code.google.com/p/binarymillenium/wiki/FlightGear Nice to see (especially for AJ!) Cheers HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

2008-12-02 Thread Tatsuhiro Nishioka
Hi, First of all, many thanks for your effort on this. I've been downloading the tar files but these are still being downloaded and will take about 24 or more hours My network is TFFH but it doesn't help me this time. Could you (or Curt) give a tag (like RELEASE_1_9_0_PRE1) to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

2008-12-02 Thread Curtis Olson
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, First of all, many thanks for your effort on this. I've been downloading the tar files but these are still being downloaded and will take about 24 or more hours My network is TFFH but it doesn't help me

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5: Release Candidate

2008-12-02 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- Curtis Olson a écrit : On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: First of all, many thanks for your effort on this. I've been downloading the tar files but these are still being downloaded and will take about 24 or more hours My network is TFFH but it doesn't help