Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clarification on YASIM input (actionpt)

2011-06-18 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Saturday, June 18, 2011 08:00:41 PM Jon S. Berndt wrote: > > From: syd adams [mailto:adams@gmail.com] > > > > Does jsbsim ? I've just begun to look into it , so I don't really know > > jsbsim's capabilities. > > It's not automatic - not a natural effect calculated by JSBSim code itself. >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clarification on YASIM input (actionpt)

2011-06-18 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> From: syd adams [mailto:adams@gmail.com] > > Does jsbsim ? I've just begun to look into it , so I don't really know > jsbsim's capabilities. It's not automatic - not a natural effect calculated by JSBSim code itself. Like many things in JSBSim, the facilities are present to let the aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clarification on YASIM input (actionpt)

2011-06-18 Thread syd adams
On the other hand, YASim does not take into the wing downwash > or the propwash while computing the tail incidence (while they are > first order contributors) so I would not use the word 'fidelity'. Does jsbsim ? I've just begun to look into it , so I don't really know jsbsim's capabilities. Che

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clarification on YASIM input (actionpt)

2011-06-18 Thread Bertrand Coconnier
2011/6/18 Gary Neely : > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Bertrand Coconnier > wrote: >> 2011/6/17 Gary Neely : >>> I've always understood actionpt to be the location where thrust should >>> be applied with respect to the airframe. For a propeller-driven >>> engine, I use the approximate locatio

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clarification on YASIM input (actionpt)

2011-06-18 Thread Gary Neely
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Bertrand Coconnier wrote: > 2011/6/17 Gary Neely : >> I've always understood actionpt to be the location where thrust should >> be applied with respect to the airframe. For a propeller-driven >> engine, I use the approximate location of the main thrust bearing. Fo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state "feature-freeze" until July, 17th 2011

2011-06-18 Thread James Turner
On 17 Jun 2011, at 20:47, Torsten Dreyer wrote: > Thanks for supporting our effort to create the next FlitghtGear release Woo-hoo, release process! Thanks to Torsten for driving the release, and ThorstenB for already doing a huge amount of bug-fixing. If you've previously filed bugs in tracker

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SCR-522

2011-06-18 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Saturday, June 18, 2011 01:17:10 AM Vivian Meazza wrote: > Hal, > > > > Since the dialog seems to be fundamentally broken, and in view of the > freeze that has been declared on fgdata, I won't be merging this > immediately. I'll see if I can fix up the Nasal errors, and then review > the situ

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clarification on YASIM input (actionpt)

2011-06-18 Thread syd adams
Ok, i worded that wrong ... action point is a way to specify the thrust point if it's not the point defined for the engine mass ... and yes , the coordinates are relative the aircraft origin ... my mistake. -- EditLive Ent

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clarification on YASIM input (actionpt)

2011-06-18 Thread Bertrand Coconnier
2011/6/18 syd adams : > My more simple understanding was the actionpoint was the point where > thrust was applied relative to the engine mass , like the > documentation states. > > an subelement >          to place the action point of the thrust at a different >          position than the mass of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clarification on YASIM input (actionpt)

2011-06-18 Thread syd adams
My more simple understanding was the actionpoint was the point where thrust was applied relative to the engine mass , like the documentation states. an subelement to place the action point of the thrust at a different position than the mass of the engine. Works for me. Cheer

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-18 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > No scenery dir (top most) is editable. The google url isn't. Ah, ok, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clarification on YASIM input (actionpt)

2011-06-18 Thread Bertrand Coconnier
2011/6/17 Gary Neely : > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:17 AM, xsaint wrote: >> Hello Folks... >> >> Was wondering if any nice souls will assist clear this doubt on mine... >> >> In YASIM, what does "actionpt" really refers to? >> Is it the point the engines pull the air through? which the point will

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clarification on YASIM input (actionpt)

2011-06-18 Thread Bertrand Coconnier
2011/6/17 Emilian Huminiuc : > On Friday 17 June 2011 08:15:36 xsaint wrote: >> Thank you Emilian and Buck >> >> Ok i tested changing the location of the point to ahead of the engine >> and also behind the engine, near exhaust. >> Irrespective of the location, looking at the results at the Yasi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-18 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- "Martin Spott" a écrit : > Frederic Bouvier wrote: > > > embedded terrasync was not working for me because the scenery-dir > > entered in the dialog was not copied in the property. It should be > > fixed in fgdata now (dialog definition lacking a global > dialog-apply). > > Isn't the scen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-18 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > embedded terrasync was not working for me because the scenery-dir > entered in the dialog was not copied in the property. It should be > fixed in fgdata now (dialog definition lacking a global dialog-apply). Isn't the scenery-dir in the terrasync dialogue meant to be non

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync

2011-06-18 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Vivian, embedded terrasync was not working for me because the scenery-dir entered in the dialog was not copied in the property. It should be fixed in fgdata now (dialog definition lacking a global dialog-apply). I don't know if it is related to the issue you are seeing, but fgfs nightly downlo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SCR-522

2011-06-18 Thread Vivian Meazza
Hal, Since the dialog seems to be fundamentally broken, and in view of the freeze that has been declared on fgdata, I won't be merging this immediately. I'll see if I can fix up the Nasal errors, and then review the situation. Vivian -Original Message- From: V. Engel [mailto:hve