Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Friday 07 December 2007 14:40:34 gerard robin wrote: Making the 3D model shape is the easiest (5% of the work, more or less 24 hours of work, but very complicated shape) There is a lot of stuff to do: =the cockpit must completed (versus the A10, Alexy has spent so many time to do it)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread gerard robin
On ven 7 décembre 2007, Hans Fugal wrote: The aircraft discussion has been interesting. One stumbling block I've come across when deciding which aircraft to download before is the quality guessing game. The web site lists the author's assessment, but I've found that to be less useful than it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Heiko Schulz
Nice idea! Why not add a system like: 5 stars for a very complete aircraft like the Senecca II or one for the not so goog like the fokker 70/100? So everyone can see, where is potential to develop?! Regards HHS --- Hans Fugal [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: The aircraft discussion has been

[Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Hans Fugal
The aircraft discussion has been interesting. One stumbling block I've come across when deciding which aircraft to download before is the quality guessing game. The web site lists the author's assessment, but I've found that to be less useful than it could be, because some authors say alpha when

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Nice idea! Why not add a system like: 5 stars for a very complete aircraft like the Senecca II or one for the not so goog like the fokker 70/100? So everyone can see, where is potential to develop?! Regards HHS --- Hans Fugal [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: We could give a star for every

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, --- gerard robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On ven 7 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: Yes we must not talk about artistic competences (here the msfs models are better :( ), only to answer the question: does the model simulate the real one ?which degree of simulation

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Stuart Buchanan
--- AJ MacLeod wrote: I agree that we need a better indication of state of completion for the models on the downloads page, but as far as I can see it will have to be a very basic overview. I'm not a fan of simplistic star ratings, but if the stars are for degree of completion and every

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread gerard robin
On ven 7 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: Yes we must not talk about artistic competences (here the msfs models are better :( ), only to answer the question: does the model simulate the real one ?which degree of simulation ? Right I think- eye candies are only one small part

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread gerard robin
On ven 7 décembre 2007, AJ MacLeod wrote: On Friday 07 December 2007 14:40:34 gerard robin wrote: Making the 3D model shape is the easiest (5% of the work, more or less 24 hours of work, but very complicated shape) There is a lot of stuff to do: =the cockpit must completed (versus the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Heiko Schulz
Yes we must not talk about artistic competences (here the msfs models are better :( ), only to answer the question: does the model simulate the real one ?which degree of simulation ? Right I think- eye candies are only one small part of being realistic, but if we want to be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Vivian Meazza
-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality Nice idea! Why not add a system like: 5 stars for a very complete aircraft like the Senecca II or one for the not so goog like the fokker 70/100? So everyone can see, where is potential to develop?! Regards HHS --- Hans Fugal [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Vivian Meazza
Gerard robin wrote Sent: 07 December 2007 15:44 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality On ven 7 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: Yes we must not talk about artistic competences (here the msfs models are better

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread gerard robin
On ven 7 décembre 2007, Vivian Meazza wrote: Gerard robin wrote Sent: 07 December 2007 15:44 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality On ven 7 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: Yes we must not talk about artistic

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Freitag 07 Dezember 2007 schrieb LeeE: ...[end user rating scheme is bad idea]... I propose that we identify the different areas of development i.e. 3d model, FDM, Cockpit, flight control systems etc. and then just state the level of development for each of those areas. While this is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Curtis Olson
On Dec 7, 2007 2:43 PM, LeeE wrote: I'm not sure that a rating scheme, where the ratings are given by end users, is a good idea. I'm not sure the value of debating and discussing and designing a system that probably no one will step forward to build. But that said, if you allow multiple

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread LeeE
On Friday 07 December 2007 20:25, Curtis Olson wrote: On Dec 7, 2007 2:20 PM, AnMaster wrote: Just an idea: A rating system for users. (Please rate this aircraft after you tried it for a bit!) However we can't know how well the users know how it should be. Maybe we should ask them

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: Hi there, On Dec 8, 2007, at 5:01 AM, SydSandy wrote: Quite a few of the aircraft currently use the following scale: - alpha - beta - early-production - production (snip) I agree with most of the discussion ,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 SydSandy wrote: On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 15:39:53 + (GMT) Stuart Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- AJ MacLeod wrote: I agree that we need a better indication of state of completion for the models on the downloads page, but as far as I can

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread SydSandy
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 15:39:53 + (GMT) Stuart Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- AJ MacLeod wrote: I agree that we need a better indication of state of completion for the models on the downloads page, but as far as I can see it will have to be a very basic overview. I'm not a fan of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Curtis Olson wrote: On Dec 7, 2007 2:20 PM, AnMaster wrote: Just an idea: A rating system for users. (Please rate this aircraft after you tried it for a bit!) However we can't know how well the users know how it should be. Maybe we should

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Curtis Olson
On Dec 7, 2007 2:20 PM, AnMaster wrote: Just an idea: A rating system for users. (Please rate this aircraft after you tried it for a bit!) However we can't know how well the users know how it should be. Maybe we should ask them if they are pilots/if the flew that aircraft in reality.