Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Freitag 07 Dezember 2007 schrieb LeeE: > ...[end user rating scheme is bad idea]... > I propose that we identify the different areas of development i.e. 3d > model, FDM, Cockpit, flight control systems etc. and then just state > the level of development for each of those areas. While this is p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Curtis Olson
On Dec 7, 2007 2:43 PM, LeeE <> wrote: > I'm not sure that a rating scheme, where the ratings are given by end > users, is a good idea. I'm not sure the value of debating and discussing and designing a system that probably no one will step forward to build. But that said, if you allow multiple

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread LeeE
On Friday 07 December 2007 20:25, Curtis Olson wrote: > On Dec 7, 2007 2:20 PM, AnMaster <> wrote: > > Just an idea: > > > > A rating system for users. ("Please rate this aircraft after you > > tried it for a > > bit!") However we can't know how well the users know how it > > should be. Maybe we >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: > Hi there, > > On Dec 8, 2007, at 5:01 AM, Syd&Sandy wrote: >>> Quite a few of the aircraft currently use the following scale: >>> >>> - alpha >>> - beta >>> - early-production >>> - production >>> > (snip) >> I agree wi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Curtis Olson wrote: > On Dec 7, 2007 2:20 PM, AnMaster <> wrote: > >> Just an idea: >> >> A rating system for users. ("Please rate this aircraft after you tried it >> for a >> bit!") However we can't know how well the users know how it should be. >>

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Tatsuhiro Nishioka
Hi there, On Dec 8, 2007, at 5:01 AM, Syd&Sandy wrote: >> Quite a few of the aircraft currently use the following scale: >> >> - alpha >> - beta >> - early-production >> - production >> (snip) > I agree with most of the discussion , but the above scale means > nothing to me , it doesn't give ME

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Curtis Olson
On Dec 7, 2007 2:20 PM, AnMaster <> wrote: > Just an idea: > > A rating system for users. ("Please rate this aircraft after you tried it > for a > bit!") However we can't know how well the users know how it should be. > Maybe we > should ask them if they are pilots/if the flew that aircraft in rea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Syd&Sandy wrote: > On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 15:39:53 + (GMT) > Stuart Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> --- AJ MacLeod wrote: >>> I agree that we need a better indication of "state of completion" for the >>> models on the downloads page, but a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 15:39:53 + (GMT) Stuart Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- AJ MacLeod wrote: > > I agree that we need a better indication of "state of completion" for the > > models on the downloads page, but as far as I can see it will have to be a > > very basic overview. I'm no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread gerard robin
On ven 7 décembre 2007, Vivian Meazza wrote: > Gerard robin wrote > > > Sent: 07 December 2007 15:44 > > To: FlightGear developers discussions > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality > > > > On ven 7 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Vivian Meazza
Gerard robin wrote > Sent: 07 December 2007 15:44 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality > > > On ven 7 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: > > > Yes we must not talk about artistic competences > &

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Vivian Meazza
tgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality > Nice idea! > > Why not add a system like: 5 stars for a very complete > aircraft like the Senecca II or one for the not so > goog like the fokker 70/100? > > So everyone can see, where is potential to develop?! > > Regard

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, --- gerard robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On ven 7 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: > > > Yes we must not talk about artistic competences > > > (here the "msfs" models are > > > better :( ), only to answer the question: does > the > > > model simulate the real > > > one ?which d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread gerard robin
On ven 7 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: > > Yes we must not talk about artistic competences > > (here the "msfs" models are > > better :( ), only to answer the question: does the > > model simulate the real > > one ?which degree of simulation ? > > Right I think- eye candies are only one

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Stuart Buchanan
--- AJ MacLeod wrote: > I agree that we need a better indication of "state of completion" for the > models on the downloads page, but as far as I can see it will have to be a > very basic overview. I'm not a fan of simplistic "star" ratings, but if the > stars are for degree of completion and e

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Heiko Schulz
> > Yes we must not talk about artistic competences > (here the "msfs" models are > better :( ), only to answer the question: does the > model simulate the real > one ?which degree of simulation ? > Right I think- eye candies are only one small part of being realistic, but if we want t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread gerard robin
On ven 7 décembre 2007, AJ MacLeod wrote: > On Friday 07 December 2007 14:40:34 gerard robin wrote: > > Making the 3D model "shape" is the easiest (5% of the work, more or less > > 24 hours of work, but very complicated shape) > > There is a lot of stuff to do: > > =>the cockpit must completed (ver

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Friday 07 December 2007 14:40:34 gerard robin wrote: > Making the 3D model "shape" is the easiest (5% of the work, more or less 24 > hours of work, but very complicated shape) > There is a lot of stuff to do: > =>the cockpit must completed (versus the A10, Alexy has spent so many time > to do i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread gerard robin
On ven 7 décembre 2007, Hans Fugal wrote: > The aircraft discussion has been interesting. One stumbling block I've > come across when deciding which aircraft to download before is the > quality guessing game. The web site lists the author's assessment, but > I've found that to be less useful than i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Gijs de Rooy
> Nice idea!> > Why not add a system like: 5 stars for a very complete> > aircraft like the Senecca II or one for the not so> goog like the fokker > 70/100?> > So everyone can see, where is potential to develop?!> > Regards> > HHS> --- Hans Fugal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: We could give a star

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Heiko Schulz
Nice idea! Why not add a system like: 5 stars for a very complete aircraft like the Senecca II or one for the not so goog like the fokker 70/100? So everyone can see, where is potential to develop?! Regards HHS --- Hans Fugal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > The aircraft discussion has been inter

[Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Downloading and Quality

2007-12-07 Thread Hans Fugal
The aircraft discussion has been interesting. One stumbling block I've come across when deciding which aircraft to download before is the quality guessing game. The web site lists the author's assessment, but I've found that to be less useful than it could be, because some authors say "alpha" when