Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-16 Thread Steve Hosgood
Martin Spott wrote: Stefan Seifert wrote: That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too: http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/15/1451229from=rss Well, you never know which intention sits behind the mentioned EMail, you don't even know the author.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-16 Thread Martin Spott
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:43:32 +0200, Stefan wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too: http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/15/1451229from=rss ..nope, all we need to do is kick out the ATI and Nvidea proprietary

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-16 Thread Martin Spott
Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..we do have the right to distribute the GPL ati and radeon drivers under the GPL. This is a very strong reason Nvidea would consider honoring our question to distribute their proprietary binary drivers favorably, or watch ATI get all the FGLive business on GPL drivers.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-16 Thread Martin Spott
Steve Hosgood wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Maybe it's just a 'symptom', a side-effect of the fight about the Right Way (TM) on how to use OpenGL for desktop eye candy, probably driven by jealousy ?!? There's been a Slashdot thread covering this at:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-16 Thread Steve Hosgood
Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..we do have the right to distribute the GPL ati and radeon drivers under the GPL. Yeah, but they suck in comparison with the binary drivers. There's no 3D acceleration. This is a very strong reason Nvidea would consider honoring our question to distribute their

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 16 May 2006 05:22:47 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:43:32 +0200, Stefan wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:29:19 +0100, Steve wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..we do have the right to distribute the GPL ati and radeon drivers under the GPL. Yeah, but they suck in comparison with the binary drivers. There's no 3D acceleration. ..huh? I have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 16 May 2006 14:06:19 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..we do have the right to distribute the GPL ati and radeon drivers under the GPL. This is a very strong reason Nvidea would consider honoring our question to distribute their

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 16 May 2006 08:29:48 +0900, alexander wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..nope, all we need to do is kick out the ATI and Nvidea proprietary binaries and set up scripts to download them if anyone needs them. No, all we need is to read license text :)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-16 Thread Steve Hosgood
Martin Spott wrote: Steve Hosgood wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Maybe it's just a 'symptom', a side-effect of the fight about the Right Way (TM) on how to use OpenGL for desktop eye candy, probably driven by jealousy ?!? There's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-16 Thread alexander babichev
Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..nope, all we need to do is kick out the ATI and Nvidea proprietary binaries and set up scripts to download them if anyone needs them. No, all we need is to read license text :) Look at http://www.nvidia.com/object/nv_swlicense.html It is legal to include NVidia drivers

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-15 Thread Stefan Seifert
That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too: http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/15/1451229from=rss Nine --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:43:32 +0200, Stefan wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too: http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/15/1451229from=rss ..nope, all we need to do is kick out the ATI and Nvidea proprietary binaries and set up

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-15 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:43:32 +0200, Stefan wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too: http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/15/1451229from=rss ..nope, all we need to do is kick out the ATI and Nvidea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:35:08 -0500, Curtis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:43:32 +0200, Stefan wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-15 Thread Isao Yamashita
I always use my poor man installation of Knoppix (like a live cd image booting from HD), and save those drivers and video codec to a flash memory, and copy back to ramdisk (union fs) for later usage / installationThis way I have an access to essential, but hard toaccess stuff at hand in a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGLive 0.1 alpha available for testing

2006-05-15 Thread Jim Wilson
From: Stefan Seifert That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too: http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/15/1451229from=rss Nine Technically you could include the vendor's files and just script the build, but I wouldn't even bother with that until you get a