[Flightgear-devel] FMS development ?

2006-09-26 Thread flying.toaster
I've seen a request on JSBSim development list for performance prediction 
capability.
I was wondering if somebody has started a project to develop a Flight 
Management System for flight gear 

Actually I am getting an Airbus A340 ready and that would be of important use
http://sfp1.site.voila.fr/flightgear/340_500.png

Actually more modern airliners are handled through this piece of equipment than 
anything else.

 If something is underway it could be nice to separate the core computational 
part (flight plan, performance ...) from the cockpit interfaces since this is 
really the main difference between manufacturers.

 If not that could be something to start thinking about (see PMDG products and 
their great FMS)




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[Flightgear-devel] Su-26 and new 2D panel code

2006-09-26 Thread flying.toaster
I have read with some interest the post regarding the new 2D panel code 
(clipping within a layer) because I am running into the following problem with 
the 2D aerobatic panel of the Su-26 :

http://sfp1.site.voila.fr/images/2Dpit.png

This screenshot has been taken with the latest release (not the CVS source 
code).

 I would like to know if it is resonnable to develop new aircraft with this 
modification or if it's better to wait for the next release ?

 Thanks for the advice 

Enrique


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[Flightgear-devel] putting code

2006-09-26 Thread Lou Sanchez-Chopitea
Hi,
I am beginning to look at the code, initially tracking down memory 
errors reported by valgrind, eventually with a goal of getting it to run 
on my system. I have one fix so far. What is the procedure for putting 
or submitting changes? Are there any guidelines for frequency? What are 
the compatibility standards? I am using Fedora Core 5 fairly updated. 
Thanks.

Cheers

Lou

BTW, I did look for this info in the FAQ but came up empty.


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[Flightgear-devel] how to see error messages on windows

2006-09-26 Thread Maik Justus
Hi,

on windows flightgear open a extra console window for the text output. 
When flightgear ends this window is closed regardless if there is any 
info the user might want to read (e. g. error messages of the xml 
parser). On windows you can not write thies messages to a file by fgfs 
some_parametersfile the messages are not written to file, because they 
are not written to standard output but to the extra window. (the extra 
window is necessary, because you can do not need to start it from a 
console window. I googled, if it is possible to detect, if flightgear is 
started by a console and use than this for the output, but it seems, 
that this is not possible ?!?
Therefore I added
#ifdef _MSC_VER
cerr  Hit a key to continue...  endl;
cin.get();
#endif
to function
void fgExitCleanup()
but now it waits on every exit of flightgear. How can I detect, if a 
problem occurred? (can I query the exitcode ?)

Maik


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] how to see error messages on windows

2006-09-26 Thread Reagan Thomas
Maik Justus wrote:

Hi,

on windows flightgear open a extra console window for the text output. 
When flightgear ends this window is closed regardless if there is any 
info the user might want to read (e. g. error messages of the xml 
parser). On windows you can not write thies messages to a file by fgfs 
some_parametersfile the messages are not written to file, because they 
are not written to standard output but to the extra window. (the extra 
window is necessary, because you can do not need to start it from a 
console window. I googled, if it is possible to detect, if flightgear is 
started by a console and use than this for the output, but it seems, 
that this is not possible ?!?
Therefore I added
#ifdef _MSC_VER
cerr  Hit a key to continue...  endl;
cin.get();
#endif
to function
void fgExitCleanup()
but now it waits on every exit of flightgear. How can I detect, if a 
problem occurred? (can I query the exitcode ?)

Maik

  

I think your  answer (including an example) might be here: 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;190351
It's an article that details launching a program as a child with its 
standard IO handles redirected to the parent.  In your case, I believe 
you could implement it by creating an FGFS launcher that can do whatever 
you can imagine (like write to a file) everything that FGFS sends to stdout.

I haven't tried it yet, so I hope I'm not leading you astray.

-- 
Reagan Thomas



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] how to see error messages on windows

2006-09-26 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Selon Maik Justus :

 Hi,

 on windows flightgear open a extra console window for the text output.
 When flightgear ends this window is closed regardless if there is any
 info the user might want to read (e. g. error messages of the xml
 parser). On windows you can not write thies messages to a file by fgfs
 some_parametersfile the messages are not written to file, because they
 are not written to standard output but to the extra window. (the extra
 window is necessary, because you can do not need to start it from a
 console window. I googled, if it is possible to detect, if flightgear is
 started by a console and use than this for the output, but it seems,
 that this is not possible ?!?
 Therefore I added
 #ifdef _MSC_VER
 cerr  Hit a key to continue...  endl;
 cin.get();
 #endif
 to function
 void fgExitCleanup()
 but now it waits on every exit of flightgear. How can I detect, if a
 problem occurred? (can I query the exitcode ?)

Hi Maik,

if you start fgfs with fgrun, fgfs output its messages in the fgrun console, and
this console stay opened as long as fgrun runs

-Fred

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] how to see error messages on windows

2006-09-26 Thread Reagan Thomas
Frederic Bouvier wrote:
 Selon Maik Justus :
 
 
Hi,

on windows flightgear open a extra console window for the text output.
When flightgear ends this window is closed regardless if there is any
info the user might want to read (e. g. error messages of the xml
parser). On windows you can not write thies messages to a file by fgfs
some_parametersfile the messages are not written to file, because they
are not written to standard output but to the extra window. (the extra
window is necessary, because you can do not need to start it from a
console window. I googled, if it is possible to detect, if flightgear is
started by a console and use than this for the output, but it seems,
that this is not possible ?!?
Therefore I added
#ifdef _MSC_VER
cerr  Hit a key to continue...  endl;
cin.get();
#endif
to function
void fgExitCleanup()
but now it waits on every exit of flightgear. How can I detect, if a
problem occurred? (can I query the exitcode ?)
 
 
 Hi Maik,
 
 if you start fgfs with fgrun, fgfs output its messages in the fgrun console, 
 and
 this console stay opened as long as fgrun runs
 
 -Fred
 

Why is there always a simpler way (that I'm too blind to see)? ;)

Actually, I did fiddle with that uSoft example and it worked up to a 
point.  It looks like as soon as fgfs is loaded completely, the example 
redirector/launcher thinks the pipe gets broken and exits. My version 
tweaked only so it launches fgfs is here: http://139.78.95.188/redir.c


Reagan Thomas


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] how to see error messages on windows

2006-09-26 Thread Maik Justus
Hello Fred, Hello Reagan,

thank you very much for your prompt help.

@Reagan
Maybe the broken pipe is due to the console window generated by 
flightgear? Maybe flightgear really closes your pipe!

Frederic Bouvier wrote:
 Hi Maik,

 if you start fgfs with fgrun, fgfs output its messages in the fgrun console, 
 and
 this console stay opened as long as fgrun runs

 -Fred
   
Reagan Thomas wrote:
 Actually, I did fiddle with that uSoft example and it worked up to a 
 point.  It looks like as soon as fgfs is loaded completely, the example 
 redirector/launcher thinks the pipe gets broken and exits. My version 
 tweaked only so it launches fgfs is here: http://139.78.95.188/redir.c


 Reagan Thomas
   

Maik

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[Flightgear-devel] Update of as350, bell206 and ch47

2006-09-26 Thread Maik Justus
Hi,

I have updated the three old helis as350 (Ecureuil/A-Star), bell206 
(Jet Ranger) and ch47 (Chinook). All three are using the 3D model of the 
bo and most parameters are not realistic. But they have the main 
parameters of the rotors. Therefore the as350 reacts much more delayed 
than the bo and the bell206 reacts much more delayed than the as350. 
Compared with the bo it's a total different flying. And if you are 
familiar with the bo you will probably think: How it is possible to 
hover the Jet Ranger precise? (maybe the real is a little bit easier to 
fly? The c.g. has big influence and I don't know where it is.)
On the other hand: If you thought, the flightgear bo is to easy to fly, 
try these.

The ch47 is only to demonstrate, how a two rotor heli is controlled.

(the as350 has a main rotor rotating clockwise, while the bo has a main 
rotor rotating counter clockwise. The animation is always the same (and 
therefore wrong for the as350). I am in doubt, if I should change the 
code to correct  the angles for the animation (e.g. this would mean an 
incidence of 180 degree as default for clockwise rotating rotors). What 
do the modelers think?)

Best regards,
Maik

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[Flightgear-devel] 2d panel clipping...

2006-09-26 Thread Syd

 
 I have read with some interest the post regarding the new 2D panel
 code (clipping within a layer) because I am running into the
 following problem with the 2D aerobatic panel of the Su-26 :
 
 http://sfp1.site.voila.fr/images/2Dpit.png
 
 This screenshot has been taken with the latest release (not the CVS
 source code).
 
  I would like to know if it is resonnable to develop new aircraft
 with this modification or if it's better to wait for the next
 release ?
 
  Thanks for the advice 
 
 Enrique
 

Hi , I keep getting a 404 error when I try to go to that page so I
can't tell what the problem is ...
Cheers,
Syd

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2d panel clipping...

2006-09-26 Thread flying.toaster

My mistake, the right link is 
http://sfp1.site.voila.fr/images/2dpit.png
(case sensitive :( )

 Message du 27/09/06 à 01h59
 De : Syd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 A : flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Copie à : 
 Objet : [Flightgear-devel] 2d panel clipping...
 
 
  
  I have read with some interest the post regarding the new 2D panel
  code (clipping within a layer) because I am running into the
  following problem with the 2D aerobatic panel of the Su-26 :
  
  http://sfp1.site.voila.fr/images/2Dpit.png
  
  This screenshot has been taken with the latest release (not the CVS
  source code).
  
   I would like to know if it is resonnable to develop new aircraft
  with this modification or if it's better to wait for the next
  release ?
  
   Thanks for the advice 
  
  Enrique
  
 
 Hi , I keep getting a 404 error when I try to go to that page so I
 can't tell what the problem is ...
 Cheers,
 Syd
 
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