Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/bell206/Models bell206

2007-02-04 Thread gh.robin
On Sat 3 February 2007 20:27, Melchior FRANZ wrote:

 Although the committed files were still GPL, I took the no-sell
 clause, the fictitious license, and finally the resistance and
 unresponsiveness to objections as a sign that the author is
 unreliable. I wanted to avoid another Crusader case. If someone
 else is willing to negotiate a license: have fun!  :-)


Hello pauljs75
Welcome to the By_Melchior_Franz_Nomination  Unreliable_Authors Club

-- 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/bell206/Models bell206

2007-02-04 Thread Erik Hofman
gh.robin wrote:

 Hello pauljs75
 Welcome to the By_Melchior_Franz_Nomination  Unreliable_Authors Club

A bit unfair isn't it, I assume you're paying the penalties when 
copyright infringement is detected en we get sued by someone or some 
company?

If not I would expect you to be a bit more polite to someone who is 
guarding us against such a case.

Erik

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] where to put optional Nasal addon script?

2007-02-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
OK, so I've committed Dave's newest patch, which puts the kap140.nas
into $FG_ROOT/Aircraft/Generic/. This is consistent with other files.
There are now no more slightly differing kap140.nas spread in the ac
dirs.

The best thing would IMHO be to make two subdirs
$FG_ROOT/Aircraft/Instruments/{2d,3d}/ and to remove the Instruments-3d
dir. Then instrument files like kap140.nas would be in the Instruments/
dir, while all the textures and animation files would be in the subdirs.

But I assume that this is a bit too much change at the moment.  :-]

m.

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[Flightgear-devel] Scenery download map 'alt' tags

2007-02-04 Thread Nick Warne
Hi all,

Not a nitpick, but rather a request.  On the scenery map here:

http://www.flightgear.org/Downloads/scenery-0.9.10.html

after looking at the page source, I see the 'alt' tag is used to show the file 
sizes - good idea!  Except the 'alt' tag is not designed to produce a 'popup' 
text box, it is designed to show text in lieu of an image on non graphical 
browsers or devices that cannot see images.

Needless to say, Konqueror web browser using latest KDE 3.5.6 does not show 
them (it shouldn't!)- and I think it is very good to be able to see the file 
size before downloading.

What really should be used is the 'title' tag.  The 'title' tag will over-ride 
the 'alt' tag if used.

It would be nice if scenery map page could be changed so that the 'title' 
popup will work on all browsers :-)

Nick

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[Flightgear-devel] Simgear build probs

2007-02-04 Thread Justin Smithies
Hi guys since i have installed osg i can no longer build simgear 0.3 without 
this error...

Please help


Making install in material
make[3]: Entering directory 
`/files/flightgear/simgear-cvs/source/simgear/scene/material'
if 
g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../simgear -I../../..  -I/usr/X11R6/include 
 -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT -MT 
mat.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/mat.Tpo -c -o mat.o mat.cxx; \
then mv -f .deps/mat.Tpo .deps/mat.Po; else rm -f .deps/mat.Tpo; 
exit 1; fi
mat.cxx: In member function 'osg::StateSet* SGMaterial::get_state(int) const':
mat.cxx:252: error: invalid conversion from 'const osg::StateSet*' 
to 'osg::StateSet*'
make[3]: *** [mat.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
/files/flightgear/simgear-cvs/source/simgear/scene/material'
make[2]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/files/flightgear/simgear-cvs/source/simgear/scene'
make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/files/flightgear/simgear-cvs/source/simgear'
make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1


Regards,
Justin Smithies


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/bell206/Models bell206

2007-02-04 Thread gh.robin
On Sun 4 February 2007 13:22, Erik Hofman wrote:
 gh.robin wrote:
  Hello pauljs75
  Welcome to the By_Melchior_Franz_Nomination  Unreliable_Authors Club

 A bit unfair isn't it, I assume you're paying the penalties when
 copyright infringement is detected en we get sued by someone or some
 company?

 If not I would expect you to be a bit more polite to someone who is
 guarding us against such a case.

 Erik

Hello Erik,

Seriously i do not want to start an other topic on the advantage to take main 
decisions in a democratic way..

My call to pauljs75 was a joke,  it was the continued of a stupid remark
(look at there == 
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=31083948forum_id=1919 )
 regarding the commitment by Vivian of my French Carrier Foch.
That made me to laugh, and to create that specific Club.

I am sure there will be a lot of members.

Regards
-- 
Gérard


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] segfaults in SGShaderAnimatio n::~SGShaderAnimation (), Patch

2007-02-04 Thread Nick Warne
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 07:35:15 Frederic Bouvier wrote:
 Nick,

 Selon Nick Warne :
  Fred,  Mathias
 
  I got this again tonight :-(((
 
  Chat [mpserve] GFS is now online, using
 
  Chat [mpserve] Aircraft/B-2/Models/b2-spirit.xml
 
  Chat [mpserve] GFS is now online, using
 
  Chat [mpserve] Aircraft/B-2/Models/b2-spirit.xml
 
  Segmentation fault
 
  Another person in IRC reports the same crash at the same time when this
  aircraft joined/left/joined.
 
  The common theme here is neither of us _have_ that model 'b2-spirit' !

 Not every segfault is in SGShaderAnimation ;-)

 Could you provide a gdb backtrace please ?

Update on this.  I tried to recreate it (with help from people in IRC), but to 
no avail.

Tonight I got the MP 'new player' join crash again:

Chat [mpserve] PWOE is now online, using
Chat [mpserve] Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml
Segmentation fault

I guess I will have to run fgfs everytime from now on in debugger to catch it.

More to follow.

Nick

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/bell206/Models bell206

2007-02-04 Thread Erik Hofman
gh.robin wrote:

 Seriously i do not want to start an other topic on the advantage to take main 
 decisions in a democratic way..

There's nothing democratic in copyright law.
 
 My call to pauljs75 was a joke,  it was the continued of a stupid remark

Hmm, okay but please remember that copyrights are a big issue when 
dealing with Free Software and keeping everything under the same (or 
more liberal) license is critical.

Erik

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] hsi.xml now responds to serviceable flag (or

2007-02-04 Thread Martin Spott
Torsten Dreyer wrote:

 As you said - this one needs patching of all aircraft that uses the hsi. It 
 should be thoroughly tested.

Personally I'd certainly consider patching all involved aircraft as a
valid option - as long as this serves the goal of getting a 'clean'
solution and the involved parties agree on how it should be done,

Martin.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] hsi.xml now responds to serviceable flag (or

2007-02-04 Thread John Denker
Torsten Dreyer wrote in part:

   this one needs patching of all aircraft that uses the hsi.

I believe that is no longer true.
AFAIK, no aircraft require patching to use the new hsi.

More particularly, it is my /goal/ to make the new hsi
upward-compatible with the old hsi.
If that goal is not met, please let me know and I'll try
to fix it.

  It should be thoroughly tested.

As always, thorough testing is a good thing.

On 02/04/2007 04:37 PM, Martin Spott wrote:

  Personally I'd certainly consider patching all involved aircraft as a
  valid option - as long as this serves the goal of getting a 'clean'
  solution and the involved parties agree on how it should be done,

I appreciate the sentiment.  Yes, we should keep per-aircraft
patching on the list of options ... but let's keep that as
Plan B for now.  Plan A is to make the new hsi fully backward
compatible.  If that goal is not being met, please let me
know.

Two-step instructions can be found at:
http://www.av8n.com/fly/fgfs/hsi-etc.diff



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