Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2009-10-25 Thread Detlef Faber
First: sarcasm We are all pretty capable of judging the end of a sentence by the usual orthographic. There is really no need to express a sentence end by an additional PERIOD. /sarcasm Am Samstag, den 24.10.2009, 22:04 + schrieb Martin Spott: Erik Hofman wrote: [...] If I were the guy

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2009-10-25 Thread James Sleeman
On 25/10/09 23:33, Detlef Faber wrote: Rather than shouting down his well intended move I would expect some Suggestings how to deal with this appropriately. So don't come up with a Stop contributing if you don't like it solution. I'm sure there are alternatives. I am not FG developer,

[Flightgear-devel] Flightgear License, was: Re: Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2009-10-25 Thread Maik Justus
Detlef Faber schrieb am 25.10.2009 11:33: I sympathise with Durks intentions, at least he is trying to adress the issues that gives a lot of FG devels a headache (including me). Rather than shouting down his well intended move I would expect some Suggestings how to deal with this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issues with latest cvs

2009-10-25 Thread Alasdair Campbell
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 16:15 +0100, Alasdair Campbell wrote: (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/local/bin/fgfs [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Error: Unable to create OpenGL graphics context. Error: Unable to create OpenGL graphics context. Program received signal SIGSEGV,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2009-10-25 Thread Alexis Bory - xiii
Hi all, I think all of these discussions drive us in the wrong way. Even if we would have a different license, there would be a lot of people trying to profit from our work by trying to copy it. That's only because our work is good. And this work is good also because it has been done under

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main bootstrap.cxx, 1.40, 1.41 fg_init.cxx, 1.239, 1.240 main.cxx, 1.301, 1.302 splash.cxx , 1.32, 1.33

2009-10-25 Thread Alexis Bory - xiii
leee a écrit : [...] If individuals want to spend their time bounty-hunting (although there's no ca$h bounty, of course) then they're welcome to do so, but this should not be a concern of the FG project. The only time that this issue should concern the FG project is when someone tries

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2009-10-25 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, Hi all, I think all of these discussions drive us in the wrong way. Even if we would have a different license, there would be a lot of people trying to profit from our work by trying to copy it. That's only because our work is good. And this work is good also because it has

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2009-10-25 Thread Victhor Foster
Some other people which at least heard of our project doesn't know how old our project is and are seeing it as fake or even cheap try to copy MSFS on Linux... Yeah, I know a person that thinks that way... ...and he is a MSFS user. :P

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2009-10-25 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Sonntag, den 25.10.2009, 11:30 + schrieb Vivian Meazza: Detlef Faber First: sarcasm We are all pretty capable of judging the end of a sentence by the usual orthographic. There is really no need to express a sentence end by an additional PERIOD. /sarcasm Am Samstag,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2009-10-25 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Sonntag, den 25.10.2009, 12:34 +0100 schrieb Alexis Bory - xiii: Hi all, I think all of these discussions drive us in the wrong way. Even if we would have a different license, there would be a lot of people trying to profit from our work by trying to copy it. That's only because our

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2009-10-25 Thread leee
On Sunday 25 Oct 2009, Vivian Meazza wrote: [snip...] I'm afraid that there are just 2 options - Stop contributing if you don't like it. Change the license going forward. Note - you cannot withdraw your contributions to date from GPL. And since FG/SG is largely complete and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Little patch to the KT-70

2009-10-25 Thread Torsten Dreyer
This little patch makes the KT-70 read 888- when in self-test mode. This is the correct behavior, the current behavior, where it reads the flight level and squawk code in self-test is incorrect. It's in, thanks! Torsten

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear URL verification patch

2009-10-25 Thread Durk Talsma
Folks, In light of the controversy that has arisen, please allow me to elaborate on my motivation for committing the above-mentioned patch and what I intended to do as well as what I didn't intend to do with it. When I committed this patch, I realized that this might stir some controversy, and

[Flightgear-devel] [GIT] various fixes including atcvoice, commlist and nans

2009-10-25 Thread Csaba Halász
Hi! I have made some updates available from my gitorious repo (URL: http://gitorious.org/~jester), on various branches. Here is a little summary: * branch atcvoice: has a cleaned-up version of FGATCVoice::WriteMessage synced to the current state of the sound system * branch commlist: has a bug

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: CVS

2009-10-25 Thread Statto Software
Curt wrote: I don't know about Europe, but around here civil lawyers are not a free government provided entitlement, and they are really expensive! (Probably even more expensive than ball room dancing instructors.) So our options are (a) some real lawyer volunteers to help us out or (b) some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [GIT] various fixes including atcvoice, commlist and nans

2009-10-25 Thread Vivian Meazza
Csaba Halász Hi! I have made some updates available from my gitorious repo (URL: http://gitorious.org/~jester), on various branches. Here is a little summary: * branch atcvoice: has a cleaned-up version of FGATCVoice::WriteMessage synced to the current state of the sound system *

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2009-10-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: Hi all, I think all of these discussions drive us in the wrong way. Even if we would have a different license, there would be a lot of people trying to profit from our work by trying to copy it. That's only because our work is good. And this work is good also

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Prime Meridian Crash

2009-10-25 Thread Alex DaHUND
Hi Pete, I can confirm this bug. Problem with it, it does not happen all the time. I encountered it while preparing for the 'Euro Zone Event', taking off at EGLL heading to EHAM with the ufo to prefetch scenery. And it was even possible to reproduce the crash. So, the other day I asked on IRC

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear URL verification patch

2009-10-25 Thread leee
On Sunday 25 Oct 2009, Durk Talsma wrote: [snip...] preamble Obviously, since we are developing the program for free, this is not of direct concern to us, but it does concern innocent customers, who may unknowingly be lured into spending money on something they could have gotten for free from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear URL verification patch

2009-10-25 Thread Durk Talsma
On Sunday 25 October 2009 09:50:40 pm leee wrote: I'm sorry Durk, but you still don't get it. The license is not there to protect anything but the freedom of the software. It's not there to protect or assert any rights of the the users (other than to use it as they wish for their own

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear URL verification patch

2009-10-25 Thread Bob Faulkner
I personally don't like the premise of trying to place artificial limits on how anyone uses this sim. Even trying to do so feels like an insult to the basic idea behind the GPL. If someone received a binary copy of the sim and felt like modifying it with a hex editor, that's their right, and I