Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.6.0 for Mac - call for detail bug info known issues
(and I also want someone to give me a Mac that reproduces #7 :-p). Here. Cheers, Yves -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Bug in config file handling
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, sorry I didn't open a bug in the tracker for that. Normally I do but in this case, I'm not sure how to do write it. When trying to get Thorsten's Sunrises 1.1 to run under FG2.6, I found out that there might be a problem with including files via --config. I use my own ~/.fgfs/mypreferences.xml to set some properties like multitasking, my modifications to the fligh recorder and such because I use the OSBS repo with autoupdate which always breaks my changes in preferences.xml. During my tinkering with Sunrises 1.1, I added the following for the sim/ section: systems property-rule nameLocal Weather Rules /name pathEnvironment/local-weather-rules.xml/path /property-rule /systems This did activate the local weather rules but afterwards, there was no METAR being parsed any more. After testing, I found out that the property rules from preferences.xml property-rule nameEnvironment METAR Interpolation Rule/name pathEnvironment/metarinterpolator.xml/path /property-rule property-rule nameEnvironment Interpolation Rule/name pathEnvironment/interpolator.xml/path /property-rule were not in the property tree. After some more testing, I feel confident to say that putting the local weather rule to mypreferences.xml broke the property rules from preferences.xml. As far as I understand, files included with --config are to be merged in the property tree, hence I would classify the described behavior as a bug. Tervehdys Suomesta / greetings from Finland, Stefan - -- Stefan Gofferje | Web: http://stefan.gofferje.net/ (sgofferj/OH-SW) | Projects: http://www.saakeskus.fi/ | Com1: IAX2/k-tanco.louhen-sudet.fi/stefan FG OSBS, Opensuse 12.1, GeForce GTX560, Phenom X4 3200, 8GB RAM -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk9DqxAACgkQbQKZlCdPOMM/GACeINYPQXlpOx6iW9nP9TnQ/AsL 0vgAoKttVZpj8fFsl1n8UkNBNeyNZH6w =/YL6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New Build Process?
Unfamiliar with decyphering cmake output so can't say if cmake -L answers the question. see that osgviewer.cxx is included in the build but don't see anything similar to ENABLE_JSBSIM:BOOL=ON for a multi-camera build which might look like ENABLE_OSGVIEWER:BOOL=ON ; that being the case, my guess would be that it is not enabled or the default. prove me wrong ;-) John - Original Message - From: Anders Gidenstam anders-...@gidenstam.org To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 11:38:17 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] New Build Process? On Tue, 21 Feb 2012, castle...@comcast.net wrote: Probably true if your a cmake type ;-) My immediate problem is how to express ./configure --enable-osgviewer in cmake. any notes/info on that point? I'm fairly sure that is the default (and possibly only option these days - or are the SDL and GLUT options still there?). You could try ccmake to get an UI for exploring all configuration options but cmake is most likely to able to list them too (try -L). Cheers, Anders -- --- Anders Gidenstam WWW: http://gitorious.org/anders-hangar http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/ -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New styled FGFS--Manual
Am 21.02.12 01:16, schrieb HB-GRAL: i.e. in first section Installation: http://www.flightgear.org/cvs.html http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/m-selig/apasim.html http://www.flightgear.org/cdrom/ http://www.terragear.org/ http://www.flightgear.org/Downloads/aircraft/index.shtml (huh!) I sent a merge request for changing this 5 links in getstart. https://www.gitorious.org/fg/getstart/merge_requests/1 Cheers, Yves -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Downloads central -aircrafts
Hi Curt I started to solve some link issues in getstart (see merge request on gitorious/fg/gestart) I changed the link to aircraft download page to *http://www.flightgear.org/download/aircraft/ But this redirects to http://www.flightgear.org/download/aircraft-v2-4/ While choosing downloads-Download Aircraft points to http://www.flightgear.org/download/aircraft-v2-6/ I guess for the manual it is better to have a link without version in the URL, right? Would it be possible to change the redirect for http://www.flightgear.org/download/aircraft/ always to recent version? Cheers, Yves -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Downloads central -aircrafts
Hi Yves, Right now I'm not finding the mechanism that is redirecting downloads/aircraft - aircraft-2-4. I'll keep looking -- unless it is some automatic wordpress feature to return a similar page rather than a 404? On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:55 AM, HB-GRAL flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Hi Curt I started to solve some link issues in getstart (see merge request on gitorious/fg/gestart) I changed the link to aircraft download page to *http://www.flightgear.org/download/aircraft/ But this redirects to http://www.flightgear.org/download/aircraft-v2-4/ While choosing downloads-Download Aircraft points to http://www.flightgear.org/download/aircraft-v2-6/ I guess for the manual it is better to have a link without version in the URL, right? Would it be possible to change the redirect for http://www.flightgear.org/download/aircraft/ always to recent version? Cheers, Yves -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New styled FGFS--Manual
HB-GRAL wrote: What is the difference between the Index and the Index at bottom of contents ? ;-) I'm not sure which index you mean by the Index which is not at the bottom will check. Anyhow, I know there are at least two different Indexes and I haven't determined how to get rid of the one I don't want. Maybe there is a simple tool to check all links in the document? A lot of links goes to nowhere. Thanks for fixing, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New styled FGFS--Manual
Gijs de Rooy wrote: Martin wrote: http://mapserver.flightgear.org/getstart/ I'm sure there's a link somewhere on The Wiki (if Hellosimon didn't carry out his threat of moving it into the attic ;-) It's right there, on the MAIN PAGE of the wiki! :D http://wiki.flightgear.org/Main_Page Ha, it's so low-profile, I didn't notice :-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New styled FGFS--Manual
HB-GRAL wrote: Ok, to follow this I checked all links manually tonight, hope this helps to correct all 404 or outdated ones in the manual when someone finds the time for this : Cool ! phew, quite a lot, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Did anyone test the 2.6.0 release on Windows 7 64 Bit?
Yesterday i tried to run the new FlightGear version on Windows 7 64 Bit Prof and it run awful. There are several fatal major bugs in this release i never had before, though i used WinXP 32 Bit in the time of the older releases before and not Win7 64 Bit, so i am not sure if this is win7 related. I installed FlightGear in another folder than C:\Programs files as admin and run FlightGear with normal user privileges. This might be an important information to reproduce some of the bugs. I am here on a linux system now, so i can't test it again, but here is a small listing of some of the bugs and usability issues i can remember from yesterday: 1. FGRun can't find the progamm, scenery and data folders, i have to set them manually at the first start. That shouldn't be the case, FGRun should know where to search for the files after FlightGear has been installed. An inexperienced computer user would give up here and uninstall FlightGear. 2. It is impossible to set the Terrasync folder in FGRun, the button to set the terrasync folder has no function. The terrasync mode can't be used when there is no directory set. BTW, terrasync should use the user directory by default, it's evil to use the progamm folder for that when a user has limited privileges on that directory. Usability hint: When there is a default directory set there is no need to annoy the user with asking the user for a directory location. I suggest to use %APPDATA%/Roaming/flightgear.org/terrasync as default location. If users don't like that, they should be able to change it after installation. But setting a default location is a must in my opinion to improve usability. 3. FGRun doesn't use the user folder to save the settings, instead it asks me where to place it. That's bad usability. 3. Several 3d Models (777-200, F-14b and others) aren't displayed. They're missing in the sim and in FGRun. 4. In flightGear the 3d cockpit controls do not work. For example in the b1900d clicking on them has no effect. In the past on earlier releases that worked. 5. Worst Bug. The sim has strange flickering effects, the result is that the clouds are not displayed. They flicker sometimes up, but only in 1-4 of 60 frames. (My system: Geforce GTX 550 Ti + driver version 280.26) The console shows some error message about OpenGL and a function, but the text is cut, so there's no real info about it. 6. BTW this is only a minor usability issue, but i'll mention it here for for the sake of completeness. FGRun has long loading times to display the 3d aircraft models. In my opinion that is too long for a selection list like that. In my opinion bugs 3, 4 and 5 are the worst in that list and 1 and 2 are serious usability issues all of them harm the reputation of FlightGear more than a new release version with new features do good to it. I can't recommend to offer FlightGear in that condition for download for windows users. Why where there no release candidates or beta releases? Bad release candidates or beta releases do not harm a project so badly like a real release with fatal bugs does. Best Regards, Oliver C. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Downloads central -aircrafts
Happens also with the gallery (about/gallery - about/gallery-2-0) so I suspect this must be some closest matching feature of wordpress? I may be able to force a link -- or can we just link to the main download portal in the manual and let the user click on the most recent link? On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yves, Right now I'm not finding the mechanism that is redirecting downloads/aircraft - aircraft-2-4. I'll keep looking -- unless it is some automatic wordpress feature to return a similar page rather than a 404? On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:55 AM, HB-GRAL flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Hi Curt I started to solve some link issues in getstart (see merge request on gitorious/fg/gestart) I changed the link to aircraft download page to *http://www.flightgear.org/download/aircraft/ But this redirects to http://www.flightgear.org/download/aircraft-v2-4/ While choosing downloads-Download Aircraft points to http://www.flightgear.org/download/aircraft-v2-6/ I guess for the manual it is better to have a link without version in the URL, right? Would it be possible to change the redirect for http://www.flightgear.org/download/aircraft/ always to recent version? Cheers, Yves -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Downloads central -aircrafts
Curtis Olson wrote: Happens also with the gallery (about/gallery - about/gallery-2-0) so I suspect this must be some closest matching feature of wordpress? It's always scary when the machine tries to be smarter than its master ;-) Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New styled FGFS--Manual
Am 21.02.12 17:41, schrieb HB-GRAL: Am 21.02.12 01:16, schrieb HB-GRAL: i.e. in first section Installation: http://www.flightgear.org/cvs.html http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/m-selig/apasim.html http://www.flightgear.org/cdrom/ http://www.terragear.org/ http://www.flightgear.org/Downloads/aircraft/index.shtml (huh!) I sent a merge request for changing this 5 links in getstart. https://www.gitorious.org/fg/getstart/merge_requests/1 Cheers, Yves Sent a second request, all sections fixed I hope, without Appendix. Cheers, Y. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.6.0 for Mac - call for detail bug info known issues
Hi Yves, Can you please more specific? Which download, Macbook, graphics, macosx, steps to reproduce? Thanks, Olaf Am 21.02.2012 um 09:43 schrieb flightg...@sablonier.ch: (and I also want someone to give me a Mac that reproduces #7 :-p). Here. Cheers, Yves -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] TrafficMgr: remove ~5M of unnecessary
Chris Forbes wrote: Is it acceptable to send merge requests with a git URL for a server elsewhere, or must it be on gitorious? From my perspective it doesn't have to be on Gitorious, as long as you make it work in a similar manner (or even better, since Gitorious has a rather unfortunate way of presenting diff's). In case of doubt I'd negotiate with the respective maintainer, as already suggested by James. For the traffic/AI stuff you'd probably want to talk to Durk first. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery related: groundnetworks and parking
Adrian Musceac wrote: I have also tested that visual display of the taxi path is correct, and that AI will taxi to active runway via taxiways. There are about 5900 airports which support this operation, plus or minus bugs in my script. I'll leave it to Durk to commit these files when you consider them being ready for use. Anyhow I think we'll need some aid for tracking the ground networks, at least in the long run, as there'll be a lot to change when people add more custom airport layouts or when we're going to switch to Robin's latest v8.50 collection. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery related: groundnetworks and parking
On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 00:57:49 Martin Spott wrote: I'll leave it to Durk to commit these files when you consider them being ready for use. Anyhow I think we'll need some aid for tracking the ground networks, at least in the long run, as there'll be a lot to change when people add more custom airport layouts or when we're going to switch to Robin's latest v8.50 collection. Cheers, Martin. Hi Martin, What do you have in mind for tracking them? As for custom layouts, I think one way or another they would already probably contain groundnet/parking information, and they would likely end up in the scenery database after a while, so any old groundnetworks would get overwritten. As for the switch to v8.50 airports, I already am looking into parsing them too. The default airports have a different format, but roughly the same characteristics, so it should be doable. Cheers, Adrian -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] RE : Did anyone test the 2.6.0 release on Windows 7 64 Bit?
Hi, I am away from my computer so I can comment specifically any point, but I have few questions : 1. did these problem occurs in the release candidates or are specific to the final version ? 2. We know that you didn't install in Program Files but we don't know where exactly. Could there be a special german character in the path, or any non purely ascii character ? 3. what happen if you install in Program Files as suggested by the installer ? 4. Did you install the 64bit binaries or have forced the 32bit install ? 5. Can you find the flightgear.org directory in \Users and check that fgrun.prefs has write privileges ? The save button is only there to save another set of options and it's normal that a file name is requested. For the current set of options, it goes to flightgear.org\fgrun.prefs but this file should be writable. It is created at install and contains the default path that you shouldn't have to set by hand. Regards, -Fred kreuzritter2000 kreuzritter2...@gmx.de a écrit : Yesterday i tried to run the new FlightGear version on Windows 7 64 Bit Prof and it run awful. There are several fatal major bugs in this release i never had before, though i used WinXP 32 Bit in the time of the older releases before and not Win7 64 Bit, so i am not sure if this is win7 related. I installed FlightGear in another folder than C:\Programs files as admin and run FlightGear with normal user privileges. This might be an important information to reproduce some of the bugs. I am here on a linux system now, so i can't test it again, but here is a small listing of some of the bugs and usability issues i can remember from yesterday: 1. FGRun can't find the progamm, scenery and data folders, i have to set them manually at the first start. That shouldn't be the case, FGRun should know where to search for the files after FlightGear has been installed. An inexperienced computer user would give up here and uninstall FlightGear. 2. It is impossible to set the Terrasync folder in FGRun, the button to set the terrasync folder has no function. The terrasync mode can't be used when there is no directory set. BTW, terrasync should use the user directory by default, it's evil to use the progamm folder for that when a user has limited privileges on that directory. Usability hint: When there is a default directory set there is no need to annoy the user with asking the user for a directory location. I suggest to use %APPDATA%/Roaming/flightgear.org/terrasync as default location. If users don't like that, they should be able to change it after installation. But setting a default location is a must in my opinion to improve usability. 3. FGRun doesn't use the user folder to save the settings, instead it asks me where to place it. That's bad usability. 3. Several 3d Models (777-200, F-14b and others) aren't displayed. They're missing in the sim and in FGRun. 4. In flightGear the 3d cockpit controls do not work. For example in the b1900d clicking on them has no effect. In the past on earlier releases that worked. 5. Worst Bug. The sim has strange flickering effects, the result is that the clouds are not displayed. They flicker sometimes up, but only in 1-4 of 60 frames. (My system: Geforce GTX 550 Ti + driver version 280.26) The console shows some error message about OpenGL and a function, but the text is cut, so there's no real info about it. 6. BTW this is only a minor usability issue, but i'll mention it here for for the sake of completeness. FGRun has long loading times to display the 3d aircraft models. In my opinion that is too long for a selection list like that. In my opinion bugs 3, 4 and 5 are the worst in that list and 1 and 2 are serious usability issues all of them harm the reputation of FlightGear more than a new release version with new features do good to it. I can't recommend to offer FlightGear in that condition for download for windows users. Why where there no release candidates or beta releases? Bad release candidates or beta releases do not harm a project so badly like a real release with fatal bugs does. Best Regards, Oliver C. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service.
