Re: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders?

2011-09-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:43:47 +0200, Paul wrote in message <4e5a5423.8060...@simtechnologies.de>: .. > Instead > they would like to see their copyright enforced and not abused by > others. ..an honorable and reasonable request. Are you and your add-on guys able to fund the copyright enforcement

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders?

2011-08-29 Thread TDO_Brandano -
-0400 > To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders? > > Just a comment on something I saw in this discussion regarding the > DMCA.. Reverse engineering a format for interoperability is only legal > with express permi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders?

2011-08-28 Thread Rob Dosogne
Just a comment on something I saw in this discussion regarding the DMCA.. Reverse engineering a format for interoperability is only legal with express permission from the copyright holder of said format. As much as I enjoy RE myself, it is not legal to RE something simply because you wish to inclu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders?

2011-08-28 Thread Citronnier - Alexis Bory
Le 28/08/2011 16:43, Paul Guhl a écrit : > Lets clarify the issues: the modellers asked me to provide secured file > format to prevent model theft and resell for benefit. They are willing > to contribute to FG and don't plan to sell add-ons. Instead they would > like to see their copyright enforced

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders?

2011-08-28 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Sunday, August 28, 2011 07:43:47 AM Paul Guhl wrote: > Hello all, > > i see the intention behind protecting models has been misunderstood. > Lets clarify the issues: the modellers asked me to provide secured file > format to prevent model theft and resell for benefit. They are willing > to cont

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders?

2011-08-28 Thread ThorstenB
On 28.08.2011 16:43, Paul Guhl wrote: > Lets clarify the issues: the modellers asked me to provide secured file > format to prevent model theft and resell for benefit. They are willing > to contribute to FG and don't plan to sell add-ons. Instead they would > like to see their copyright enforced an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders?

2011-08-28 Thread Paul Guhl
Hello all, i see the intention behind protecting models has been misunderstood. Lets clarify the issues: the modellers asked me to provide secured file format to prevent model theft and resell for benefit. They are willing to contribute to FG and don't plan to sell add-ons. Instead they would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders?

2011-08-25 Thread Curtis Olson
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Jan Mattsson wrote: > 2011/8/25 : > > You wouldn't even need to do that - how can you have a closed format when > > the code for reading it would need to be open source? > > An encrypted file? > The whole idea certainly seems contradictory to the spirit of the pr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders?

2011-08-25 Thread Jan Mattsson
2011/8/25 : > You wouldn't even need to do that - how can you have a closed format when > the code for reading it would need to be open source? An encrypted file? The whole idea certainly seems contradictory to the spirit of the project. /JanM ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders?

2011-08-25 Thread lists
+++ TDO_Brandano - [25/08/11 10:07 +]: > >Btw, there's no actual way you can close completely a format, eventually it >would be possible to "rip" it, even from the graphic card memory. You wouldn't even need to do that - how can you have a closed format when the code for reading it would need

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders?

2011-08-25 Thread TDO_Brandano -
etely a format, eventually it would be possible to "rip" it, even from the graphic card memory. > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:44:57 +0200 > From: ad...@simtechnologies.de > To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for mo

[Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders?

2011-08-25 Thread Paul Guhl
Hello everybody, not sure if this discussion arose before... From what i have seen so far, all usable 3d formats for aircraft/building models are either ASCII text or reversible/convertible formats. Mod developers told me, that they would wish close format for 3d models which would prevent reve