Re: [Flightgear-devel] New (real time) mapping tool proposal
Hi Yves, Thanks for the response. I did a 'git pull' just now, rebuilt in QT Creator, and don't see any change in behavior. The segfault happens when I set the path to fgdata, and after the aircraft have been scanned, while the airports are being scanned. These two messages appear before the aircraft are scanned: Error FODC0002 in tag:trolltech.com,2007:QtXmlPatterns:QIODeviceVariable:u, at line 1, column 21: Unsupported XML version. Error XPDY0002 in file:///home/mcolman/src/fgfs/fgx/fgx-build-desktop/fgx, at line 1, column 1: The focus is undefined. On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:50 PM, HB-GRAL flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Am 10.03.12 09:35, schrieb Miles Colman: FGx looks nice. Does anyone else building FGx (in QT4 Creator, but otherwise according to the build instructions here http://wiki.flightgear.org/FGX) have trouble loading airport data on Ubuntu 11.10 ? FGx exits with these terminal messages after I select the fgdata directory: Error FODC0002 in tag:trolltech.com,2007:QtXmlPatterns:QIODeviceVariable:u, at line 1, column 21: Unsupported XML version. Error XPDY0002 in file:///home/mcolman/src/fgfs/fgx/fgx-build-desktop/fgx, at line 1, column 1: The focus is undefined. Segmentation fault Thanks, Miles Hi Miles Is there a specific airport affected or does it appear just when you set path to fgdata and FGx is on scan of directories afterwards? We get this behaviour with recent fgdata, also with aircrafts, and it seems like it is a common encoding issue we have to solve. Anyway, a fix for the parser is on the way, because this issue was reported from others too. Cheers, Yves -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New (real time) mapping tool proposal
FGx looks nice. Does anyone else building FGx (in QT4 Creator, but otherwise according to the build instructions here http://wiki.flightgear.org/FGX) have trouble loading airport data on Ubuntu 11.10 ? FGx exits with these terminal messages after I select the fgdata directory: Error FODC0002 in tag:trolltech.com,2007:QtXmlPatterns:QIODeviceVariable:u, at line 1, column 21: Unsupported XML version. Error XPDY0002 in file:///home/mcolman/src/fgfs/fgx/fgx-build-desktop/fgx, at line 1, column 1: The focus is undefined. Segmentation fault Thanks, Miles On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote: Anything with screen shots or information -- I don't have time this evening to download it and get all the dependencies in place and compile it just to check it out what it is beside another launcher? I've seen fgx mentioned before, but never checked it out myself since I always launch from the command line. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Pedro Morgan p...@freeflightsim.org wrote: http://code.google.com/p/fgx/ http://gitorious.org/fgx http://fgx.ch is placeholder On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote: Where would I find FGx and more information about it? On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM, HB-GRAL flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Am 02.03.12 22:21, schrieb Curtis Olson: - An open-layers based mapping tool (similar to mpmap, but not based on proprietary google technology) - Include the ability to draw and edit a route (a set of connected way points) and then upload that to FlightGear's route manager - Include the ability to receive UDP (TCP?) position (and other data?) updates from FlightGear -- directly or via an mpserver - Include some additional buttons for commanding and controlling flightgear. - This could actually get packaged and installed with flightgear, and someone would only have to point their browser at a local html file to fire up the map and start using it. - I have a personal interest in UAV's and something along this lines could be adapted to make a slick UAV ground station interface. Now I am deeply offended. Did you ever have a closer look to FGx launcher? It has exactly all this already prepared for you and this project is open to any contribution. Never mind. ;-) Cheers, Yves -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service.
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New (real time) mapping tool proposal
Am 10.03.12 09:35, schrieb Miles Colman: FGx looks nice. Does anyone else building FGx (in QT4 Creator, but otherwise according to the build instructions here http://wiki.flightgear.org/FGX) have trouble loading airport data on Ubuntu 11.10 ? FGx exits with these terminal messages after I select the fgdata directory: Error FODC0002 in tag:trolltech.com,2007:QtXmlPatterns:QIODeviceVariable:u, at line 1, column 21: Unsupported XML version. Error XPDY0002 in file:///home/mcolman/src/fgfs/fgx/fgx-build-desktop/fgx, at line 1, column 1: The focus is undefined. Segmentation fault Thanks, Miles Hi Miles Is there a specific airport affected or does it appear just when you set path to fgdata and FGx is on scan of directories afterwards? We get this behaviour with recent fgdata, also with aircrafts, and it seems like it is a common encoding issue we have to solve. Anyway, a fix for the parser is on the way, because this issue was reported from others too. Cheers, Yves -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] New (real time) mapping tool proposal
Currently, FlightGear has several options for real time mapping and tracking (and I'm probably forgetting at least a few.) - Atlas (C++, generates it's own tile imagery from FG scenery, runs locally, talks directly to one copy of flightgear.) - mpmapXY.flightgear.org (web based, google map api, shows all the multiplayer traffic, has some nav db features I haven't completely figured out.) - FlightGear built in map (flightear has it's own built in map that can show airports, navaids, other mp traffic, but currently no terrain or land class features.) - fgmap (written in ruby, runs locally, talks directly to flightgear, but fetches and displays OSM tiles which is kind of cool.) All of these have unique features, unique strengths and unique weaknesses -- which is the nature of doing things different ways. One of the neat things about fgmap (ruby based) is that you can point and click and create a route right on the map, and then upload it to FlightGear's route manager and have the FlightGear autopilot fly the route. That's a really neat feature! But it requires you to have a ruby interpreter installed and getting it to run on some platforms can get dicey due to the required versions of ruby and qt and some of the other library dependencies. mpmapXY is neat because it's web based and can run on literally any device that has access to the internet (but it is google maps based and somewhat proprietary.) (Oh, and my recent attempts to contact pigeon, the author of the mpmap system have been unsuccessful -- so I don't think it's being actively developed and supported -- which is fine as long as it works.) I just noticed that an outfit called foursquare announced they have rewritten their google maps system using OSM and OpenLayers (open layers is a javascript api similar in function to the google map javascript api.) I went and explored some of the open-layers examples and they have a really interesting map example designed to run on tablets or phones (mobile devices.) It allows you to open up an OSM map and scroll and zoom like any other map, but also allows you to draw a route and even edit it (insert points, adjust points, delete points.) It is a pretty nifty demo (works even better with a traditional mouse/computer): http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/mobile-drawing.html Thinking about all these things together, a picture has started to form in my head. I am imagining: - An open-layers based mapping tool (similar to mpmap, but not based on proprietary google technology) - Include the ability to draw and edit a route (a set of connected way points) and then upload that to FlightGear's route manager - Include the ability to receive UDP (TCP?) position (and other data?) updates from FlightGear -- directly or via an mpserver - Include some additional buttons for commanding and controlling flightgear. - This could actually get packaged and installed with flightgear, and someone would only have to point their browser at a local html file to fire up the map and start using it. - I have a personal interest in UAV's and something along this lines could be adapted to make a slick UAV ground station interface. Is there anyone out there who might be interested in joining me in pursuit of this project? If you look at the openlayers example I link to above, you can see that it provides a big chunk of what we need already, we need to add some sort of network communication ability (I've never done that in javascript, but I assume there's a mechanism to do that, probably a 3 or 4 letter acronym I've so far ignored in my life.) :-) This wouldn't be intended to replace any of our existing map tools, but would simply be another option to throw into the mix that would have it's own unique feature set and capabilities. Any one have thoughts? Open Layers experience? Any one interested in jumping in and working on something like this together? Thanks, Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New (real time) mapping tool proposal
Am 02.03.12 22:21, schrieb Curtis Olson: http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/mobile-drawing.html Hi Curt I remember my post to this list some months ago. An example of a running webapp with flightgear navaids (apt.dat) you can still find here: http://map.fgx.ch/mobile.html#mappage It is based on OpenLayers API, mapnik, data comes from apt.dat in my postgresql tables, but can come from anywhere. Oh, yes, I guess it is not finished yet. :-) Cheers, Yves -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New (real time) mapping tool proposal
Am 02.03.12 22:21, schrieb Curtis Olson: - An open-layers based mapping tool (similar to mpmap, but not based on proprietary google technology) - Include the ability to draw and edit a route (a set of connected way points) and then upload that to FlightGear's route manager - Include the ability to receive UDP (TCP?) position (and other data?) updates from FlightGear -- directly or via an mpserver - Include some additional buttons for commanding and controlling flightgear. - This could actually get packaged and installed with flightgear, and someone would only have to point their browser at a local html file to fire up the map and start using it. - I have a personal interest in UAV's and something along this lines could be adapted to make a slick UAV ground station interface. Now I am deeply offended. Did you ever have a closer look to FGx launcher? It has exactly all this already prepared for you and this project is open to any contribution. Never mind. ;-) Cheers, Yves -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New (real time) mapping tool proposal
MarbleMap is also very interesting.. ;-)) On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:00 PM, HB-GRAL flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Am 02.03.12 22:21, schrieb Curtis Olson: - An open-layers based mapping tool (similar to mpmap, but not based on proprietary google technology) - Include the ability to draw and edit a route (a set of connected way points) and then upload that to FlightGear's route manager - Include the ability to receive UDP (TCP?) position (and other data?) updates from FlightGear -- directly or via an mpserver - Include some additional buttons for commanding and controlling flightgear. - This could actually get packaged and installed with flightgear, and someone would only have to point their browser at a local html file to fire up the map and start using it. - I have a personal interest in UAV's and something along this lines could be adapted to make a slick UAV ground station interface. Now I am deeply offended. Did you ever have a closer look to FGx launcher? It has exactly all this already prepared for you and this project is open to any contribution. Never mind. ;-) Cheers, Yves -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New (real time) mapping tool proposal
HB-GRAL wrote: Now I am deeply offended. Did you ever have a closer look to FGx launcher? It has exactly all this already prepared for you and this project is open to any contribution. I can understand you. And Curt, openlayers is by far a new thing. Not only is it used in FGx (a nice piece of software), but also on mapserver.flightgear.org. Chris -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New (real time) mapping tool proposal
Where would I find FGx and more information about it? On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM, HB-GRAL flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Am 02.03.12 22:21, schrieb Curtis Olson: - An open-layers based mapping tool (similar to mpmap, but not based on proprietary google technology) - Include the ability to draw and edit a route (a set of connected way points) and then upload that to FlightGear's route manager - Include the ability to receive UDP (TCP?) position (and other data?) updates from FlightGear -- directly or via an mpserver - Include some additional buttons for commanding and controlling flightgear. - This could actually get packaged and installed with flightgear, and someone would only have to point their browser at a local html file to fire up the map and start using it. - I have a personal interest in UAV's and something along this lines could be adapted to make a slick UAV ground station interface. Now I am deeply offended. Did you ever have a closer look to FGx launcher? It has exactly all this already prepared for you and this project is open to any contribution. Never mind. ;-) Cheers, Yves -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New (real time) mapping tool proposal
http://code.google.com/p/fgx/ http://gitorious.org/fgx http://fgx.ch is placeholder On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote: Where would I find FGx and more information about it? On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM, HB-GRAL flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Am 02.03.12 22:21, schrieb Curtis Olson: - An open-layers based mapping tool (similar to mpmap, but not based on proprietary google technology) - Include the ability to draw and edit a route (a set of connected way points) and then upload that to FlightGear's route manager - Include the ability to receive UDP (TCP?) position (and other data?) updates from FlightGear -- directly or via an mpserver - Include some additional buttons for commanding and controlling flightgear. - This could actually get packaged and installed with flightgear, and someone would only have to point their browser at a local html file to fire up the map and start using it. - I have a personal interest in UAV's and something along this lines could be adapted to make a slick UAV ground station interface. Now I am deeply offended. Did you ever have a closer look to FGx launcher? It has exactly all this already prepared for you and this project is open to any contribution. Never mind. ;-) Cheers, Yves -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New (real time) mapping tool proposal
Anything with screen shots or information -- I don't have time this evening to download it and get all the dependencies in place and compile it just to check it out what it is beside another launcher? I've seen fgx mentioned before, but never checked it out myself since I always launch from the command line. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Pedro Morgan p...@freeflightsim.org wrote: http://code.google.com/p/fgx/ http://gitorious.org/fgx http://fgx.ch is placeholder On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote: Where would I find FGx and more information about it? On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM, HB-GRAL flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Am 02.03.12 22:21, schrieb Curtis Olson: - An open-layers based mapping tool (similar to mpmap, but not based on proprietary google technology) - Include the ability to draw and edit a route (a set of connected way points) and then upload that to FlightGear's route manager - Include the ability to receive UDP (TCP?) position (and other data?) updates from FlightGear -- directly or via an mpserver - Include some additional buttons for commanding and controlling flightgear. - This could actually get packaged and installed with flightgear, and someone would only have to point their browser at a local html file to fire up the map and start using it. - I have a personal interest in UAV's and something along this lines could be adapted to make a slick UAV ground station interface. Now I am deeply offended. Did you ever have a closer look to FGx launcher? It has exactly all this already prepared for you and this project is open to any contribution. Never mind. ;-) Cheers, Yves -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
