Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
Good description by Durk. If you want to know more about ascent guidance and control, this is an interesting and more basic look at that: http://www.aero.org/publications/crosslink/winter2004/06.html And this, http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2 <http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=AD0643 209> &doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=AD0643209 "Derivation of Linear Tangent Steering Laws." Jon From: Durk Talsma [mailto:durkt...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 10:17 AM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1 Hi Curt, As far as I know, some of the early rocket models either had secondary attitude thrusters or deflector plates placed inside the main rocket exhaust. Modern types (i.e. anything from the 1950s onward) have used gimbaling main engines. If you watch prelaunch space shuttle footage, you can usually see the 3 SSMEs do a full motion cycle just before ignition. Additionally, some rockets, including the Saturn 5 first stage, used airfoils for improved stability. Also, the more sophisticated engines can throttle. IIRC, the Space Shuttle can throttle between approx 65% and 104% of its rated thrust. Typically it throttles back to 65 during a period of max dynamic pressure, just around the time of solid booster separation. At this time, it's already picked up quite a bit of velocity, but is still going through a relatively thick atmosphere. Interestingly, another challenge is to restart a rocket engine in orbit, because the liquid fuels are just floating around. The Saturn 5 third stage, needing to reignite for lunar trajectory insertion, had a separate set of solid fuel engines, which only served the purpose of pushing the fuels down in order to enable a restart. Rather fascinating if you think about what kind of extraordinary challenges space poses for things we take for granted Cheers, Durk On 18 Apr 2011, at 16:41, Curtis Olson wrote: I've never looked into it, but I've always wondered how (or how much) control they have over those giant rockets. I know the space shuttle flies a very precise profile and rolls over at a particular point, so they must have some good control. But I have never thought about how that control is implemented. Do they have secondary thrusters? Can they vector or deflect their thrust? Can they throttle? I know that some smaller rockets will spin along their longitudinal axis to help average out any built in imbalances and keep a stable course (probably the same idea as a rifle bullet.) Curt. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:31:09 -0700 (PDT), Gene wrote in message : > On Mon, 18 Apr 2011, AJ MacLeod wrote: > > > On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 00:39:52 +0200 > > Torsten Dreyer wrote: > > > >> 156MB!? Isn't that a bit - huge? > > > > Maybe... but it looks like a fantastic model. If only I had the > > time to actually work out how to fly it :-) Really impressive work > > though. > > Fly it? I thought you just lit a match and then did your best to > hang on until the big noisy thing at the other end runs out of gas. :) > > g. > .."fly it", means control it well enough to do e.g. touch-n-go's at will, not by accident. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com <http://www.atiak.com/> - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org <http://www.flightgear.org/> - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org <http://gallinazo.flightgear.org/> -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev___
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
Hi Curt, As far as I know, some of the early rocket models either had secondary attitude thrusters or deflector plates placed inside the main rocket exhaust. Modern types (i.e. anything from the 1950s onward) have used gimbaling main engines. If you watch prelaunch space shuttle footage, you can usually see the 3 SSMEs do a full motion cycle just before ignition. Additionally, some rockets, including the Saturn 5 first stage, used airfoils for improved stability. Also, the more sophisticated engines can throttle. IIRC, the Space Shuttle can throttle between approx 65% and 104% of its rated thrust. Typically it throttles back to 65 during a period of max dynamic pressure, just around the time of solid booster separation. At this time, it's already picked up quite a bit of velocity, but is still going through a relatively thick atmosphere. Interestingly, another challenge is to restart a rocket engine in orbit, because the liquid fuels are just floating around. The Saturn 5 third stage, needing to reignite for lunar trajectory insertion, had a separate set of solid fuel engines, which only served the purpose of pushing the fuels down in order to enable a restart. Rather fascinating if you think about what kind of extraordinary challenges space poses for things we take for granted Cheers, Durk On 18 Apr 2011, at 16:41, Curtis Olson wrote: > I've never looked into it, but I've always wondered how (or how much) control > they have over those giant rockets. I know the space shuttle flies a very > precise profile and rolls over at a particular point, so they must have some > good control. But I have never thought about how that control is > implemented. Do they have secondary thrusters? Can they vector or deflect > their thrust? Can they throttle? I know that some smaller rockets will spin > along their longitudinal axis to help average out any built in imbalances and > keep a stable course (probably the same idea as a rifle bullet.) > > Curt. > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:31:09 -0700 (PDT), Gene wrote in message > : > > > On Mon, 18 Apr 2011, AJ MacLeod wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 00:39:52 +0200 > > > Torsten Dreyer wrote: > > > > > >> 156MB!? Isn't that a bit - huge? > > > > > > Maybe... but it looks like a fantastic model. If only I had the > > > time to actually work out how to fly it :-) Really impressive work > > > though. > > > > Fly it? I thought you just lit a match and then did your best to > > hang on until the big noisy thing at the other end runs out of gas. :) > > > > g. > > > > .."fly it", means control it well enough to do > e.g. touch-n-go's at will, not by accident. ;o) > > -- > ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen > ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... > Scenarios always come in sets of three: > best case, worst case, and just in case. > > -- > Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload > Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top > priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve > application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting > the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > -- > Curtis Olson: > http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ > http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org > > -- > Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload > Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top > priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve > application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting > the value of server virtualization. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
I've never looked into it, but I've always wondered how (or how much) control they have over those giant rockets. I know the space shuttle flies a very precise profile and rolls over at a particular point, so they must have some good control. But I have never thought about how that control is implemented. Do they have secondary thrusters? Can they vector or deflect their thrust? Can they throttle? I know that some smaller rockets will spin along their longitudinal axis to help average out any built in imbalances and keep a stable course (probably the same idea as a rifle bullet.) Curt. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:31:09 -0700 (PDT), Gene wrote in message > : > > > On Mon, 18 Apr 2011, AJ MacLeod wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 00:39:52 +0200 > > > Torsten Dreyer wrote: > > > > > >> 156MB!? Isn't that a bit - huge? > > > > > > Maybe... but it looks like a fantastic model. If only I had the > > > time to actually work out how to fly it :-) Really impressive work > > > though. > > > > Fly it? I thought you just lit a match and then did your best to > > hang on until the big noisy thing at the other end runs out of gas. :) > > > > g. > > > > .."fly it", means control it well enough to do > e.g. touch-n-go's at will, not by accident. ;o) > > -- > ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen > ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... > Scenarios always come in sets of three: > best case, worst case, and just in case. > > > -- > Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload > Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top > priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve > application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting > the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:31:09 -0700 (PDT), Gene wrote in message : > On Mon, 18 Apr 2011, AJ MacLeod wrote: > > > On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 00:39:52 +0200 > > Torsten Dreyer wrote: > > > >> 156MB!? Isn't that a bit - huge? > > > > Maybe... but it looks like a fantastic model. If only I had the > > time to actually work out how to fly it :-) Really impressive work > > though. > > Fly it? I thought you just lit a match and then did your best to > hang on until the big noisy thing at the other end runs out of gas. :) > > g. > .."fly it", means control it well enough to do e.g. touch-n-go's at will, not by accident. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011, AJ MacLeod wrote: > On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 00:39:52 +0200 > Torsten Dreyer wrote: > >> 156MB!? Isn't that a bit - huge? > > Maybe... but it looks like a fantastic model. If only I had the time to > actually work out how to fly it :-) Really impressive work though. Fly it? I thought you just lit a match and then did your best to hang on until the big noisy thing at the other end runs out of gas. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
Take a look at the J246 model in the JSBSim distribution or in our CVS browser. That's a hypothetical heavy launch vehicle flight model that is under (slow) development. Jon > -Original Message- > From: AJ MacLeod [mailto:aj-li...@adeptopensource.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 6:24 AM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1 > > On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 00:39:52 +0200 > Torsten Dreyer wrote: > > > 156MB!? Isn't that a bit - huge? > > Maybe... but it looks like a fantastic model. If only I had the time > to actually work out how to fly it :-) Really impressive work though. > -- > > > --- > --- > Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload > Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top > priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and > improve > application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about > boosting > the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware- > sfdev2dev > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 00:39:52 +0200 Torsten Dreyer wrote: > 156MB!? Isn't that a bit - huge? Maybe... but it looks like a fantastic model. If only I had the time to actually work out how to fly it :-) Really impressive work though. -- -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Vivian Meazza wrote: > Gene couldn't resist > >> -Original Message- >> From: Buckle [mailto:ge...@deltasoft.com] >> Sent: 17 April 2011 16:19 >> To: FlightGear developers discussions >> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1 >> >> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Torsten Dreyer wrote: >> >>>> Merge commit 'refs/merge-requests/84' of >>> git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata into integration >>>> >>>> commit 4a25745ea96dac35a1069a2f85f0b6e72e38ed14 >>>> Author: Victor Slavutinsky >>>> Date: Wed Apr 13 16:19:53 2011 +0400 >>> >>>> 1) Initial adding of Vostok-1 spacecraft and carrier. >>> >>> $ du -hs Vostok-1/ >>> 156MVostok-1/ >>> >>> 156MB!? Isn't that a bit - huge? >>> >> It's a big rocket. :) >> >> >> Sorry, couldn't resist. >> > > Wrong - it's a bloody enormous rocket :) > Picky, picky, picky. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
Jon wrote: > -Original Message- > From: S. Berndt [mailto:jonsber...@comcast.net] > Sent: 17 April 2011 18:10 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1 > > What perfect timing for this model too, given the recent 50th anniversary > of Yuri Gagarin's first human spaceflight. > We were busting a gut to get it into Gitorious on the very day. Vivian -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
Jon wrote: > -Original Message- > From: S. Berndt [mailto:jonsber...@comcast.net] > Sent: 17 April 2011 18:10 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1 > > What perfect timing for this model too, given the recent 50th anniversary > of Yuri Gagarin's first human spaceflight. > We were busting a gut to get it into Gitorious on the very day. Vivian -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
What perfect timing for this model too, given the recent 50th anniversary of Yuri Gagarin's first human spaceflight. Jon Sent from my Samsung Captivate(tm) on AT&T -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
I thought I was going to post the first rocket but it looks like you beat me to it! :-) Cool! Jon Sent from my Samsung Captivate(tm) on AT&T -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
Gene couldn't resist > -Original Message- > From: Buckle [mailto:ge...@deltasoft.com] > Sent: 17 April 2011 16:19 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1 > > On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Torsten Dreyer wrote: > > > > Merge commit 'refs/merge-requests/84' of > > git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata into integration > > > > > > commit 4a25745ea96dac35a1069a2f85f0b6e72e38ed14 > > > Author: Victor Slavutinsky > > > Date: Wed Apr 13 16:19:53 2011 +0400 > > > > > 1) Initial adding of Vostok-1 spacecraft and carrier. > > > > $ du -hs Vostok-1/ > > 156MVostok-1/ > > > > 156MB!? Isn't that a bit - huge? > > > It's a big rocket. :) > > > Sorry, couldn't resist. > Wrong - it's a bloody enormous rocket :) V. -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Torsten Dreyer wrote: > > Merge commit 'refs/merge-requests/84' of > git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata into integration > > > > commit 4a25745ea96dac35a1069a2f85f0b6e72e38ed14 > > Author: Victor Slavutinsky > > Date: Wed Apr 13 16:19:53 2011 +0400 > > > 1) Initial adding of Vostok-1 spacecraft and carrier. > > $ du -hs Vostok-1/ > 156MVostok-1/ > > 156MB!? Isn't that a bit - huge? > It's a big rocket. :) Sorry, couldn't resist. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
But it's totally worth it (even with no sounds) > > Merge commit 'refs/merge-requests/84' of > git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata into integration > > > > commit 4a25745ea96dac35a1069a2f85f0b6e72e38ed14 > > Author: Victor Slavutinsky > > Date: Wed Apr 13 16:19:53 2011 +0400 > > > 1) Initial adding of Vostok-1 spacecraft and carrier. > > $ du -hs Vostok-1/ > 156MVostok-1/ > > 156MB!? Isn't that a bit - huge? > > Torsten > > > -- > Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload > Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top > priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve > application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting > the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Vostok-1
> Merge commit 'refs/merge-requests/84' of git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata into integration > > commit 4a25745ea96dac35a1069a2f85f0b6e72e38ed14 > Author: Victor Slavutinsky > Date: Wed Apr 13 16:19:53 2011 +0400 > 1) Initial adding of Vostok-1 spacecraft and carrier. $ du -hs Vostok-1/ 156MVostok-1/ 156MB!? Isn't that a bit - huge? Torsten -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
