Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon S Berndt wrote: What are the steps involved? I can help out, I think. Download one or more DEM files from here (this needs to be coordinated): http://edcsgs9.cr.usgs.gov/pub/data/srtm/SRTM30 Get TerraGear working: http://www.terragear.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-27 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This is dangerous though ... - it will be hard to track plib changes (or easy to miss plib changes.) - sometimes the loaders are dependent on the internals of a particular development version of plib, so we might end up with our code only

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Al West
I've got a few machines free. Linux: P3-800Mhz 512MB Dual CPU 1GHz 512MB Windows 2000: 1GHz P3 512MB 1800+XP 512MB Windows XP: 1GHz P3 256MB Trouble is I don't have terragear built as yet for linux or windows and I have satellite internet so the uplink is only at a poor 28Kbps. But if I can be

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-27 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Outlook is a program that (doesn't have to) but seems happy to run just about any program anyone on the internet wants to send it. I've heard stories that in some cases, outlook will open/run the attachment silently behind the scenes even if you just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Jim Wilson
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: After the code churns away for a couple of minutes, you should find a w080n40/ directory in work/DEM-30/, containing 100 subdirectories named w071n40 to w080n49, using about 12MB of disk space. You are now done preparing the elevation data. To build

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-27 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson writes: Tinky Winky mail? One of my bosses has a purple motorcycle he has knicknamed tinky winky. He even had a two-tone custom seat cover made for it. :-) It looks real sharp. Well, this isn't microsoft bashing, and it isn't based on things that happened in the past. While some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get TerraGear working: http://www.terragear.org Currently this appears to be the biggest part for me. TerraGear depends on gpc, nurbs++ and gts, gts depends on glib. Right ? So you have to build these four libraries _before_.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: After the code churns away for a couple of minutes, you should find a w080n40/ directory in work/DEM-30/, containing 100 subdirectories named w071n40 to w080n49, using about 12MB of disk space. You are now done preparing the elevation

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nurbs++ isn't needed for this handling this data. SO you should be safe. Great ! GTS should be taken from CVS. Right ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nurbs++ isn't needed for this handling this data. SO you should be safe. Great ! GTS should be taken from CVS. Right ? I am not sure ... I guess it won't hurt either. Erik ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-27 Thread Mally
Oh well, it's fun to pick on MS, and they do deserve most of it, if for no other reason to pressure them to do better. But you will have security problems and issues no matter what software and OS you run. It may be fun, but when it extends beyond Microsoft-bashing to implied disrespect for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Erik Hofman
Erik Hofman wrote: Since the full SRTM data is available these chunck could be skipped. I am currently working on: e020n40 AS much as I would like to help,so far a bug in raw2ascii prevents me from doing any work because it to bails out with them message Latitude ranges from 0 to 0 on several

Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angryrant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-27 Thread Matevz Jekovec
Not at all. Things go wrong in airliners flown by scheduled carriers all the time, and usually no one suffers anything more than stress from a delay or rerouting. Injuries and fatalities are very rare in scheduled airline incidents or accidents. Didn't you watch Die Hard 2 (the Christmas

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote: Jim Wilson wrote: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: After the code churns away for a couple of minutes, you should find a w080n40/ directory in work/DEM-30/, containing 100 subdirectories named w071n40 to w080n49, using about 12MB of disk space. You are now done

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote: Jon S Berndt wrote: What are the steps involved? I can help out, I think. Download one or more DEM files from here (this needs to be coordinated): http://edcsgs9.cr.usgs.gov/pub/data/srtm/SRTM30 Get TerraGear working: http://www.terragear.org And follow these

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-27 Thread Tony Peden
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 08:09, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Ok, I hate to drag this off topic thread further off topic. But the other poster was right. FlightGear isn't the best place for MS bashing. These days it is almost as much fun to bash SCO:

Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-27 Thread Tony Peden
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:08, David Megginson wrote: Matthew Johnson writes: Good point, something goes wrong on a commercial airliner very few, if anyone ever gets out alive... Not at all. Things go wrong in airliners flown by scheduled carriers all the time, and usually no one

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: You are now done preparing the elevation data. To build scenery, TerraGear needs only the files and directories under the work/DEM-30/; if you are tight for space, you can delete all of your working files under data/ now, before going any further (if you have a lot of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: You are now done preparing the elevation data. To build scenery, TerraGear needs only the files and directories under the work/DEM-30/; if you are tight for space, you can delete all of your working files under data/ now, before going any

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Jon Stockill
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Frederic Bouvier wrote: That's all ? or do you want us to generate the scenery ? I have the whole w020n90 dem done now. If we're generating it too then we need to ensure that everyone's generating the polys from vmap0 with the same info - can I assume we're going with the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: You are now done preparing the elevation data. To build scenery, TerraGear needs only the files and directories under the work/DEM-30/; if you are tight for space, you can delete all of your working files under data/ now, before going any

Re: [Flightgear-devel] animation timed with just one object

2003-08-27 Thread a8603365
* Jim WILSON, Mon, 25 Aug 2003: Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there a better way to make an object blink, that doesn't need a dummy object? Maybe not. Have you tried experimenting with a short line object instead of a cube? The line will look similar to the scenery lights,

Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel][OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-27 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 01:25, Matevz Jekovec wrote: Not at all. Things go wrong in airliners flown by scheduled carriers all the time, and usually no one suffers anything more than stress from a delay or rerouting. Injuries and fatalities are very rare in scheduled airline incidents or

Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-27 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 04:19, Tony Peden wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:08, David Megginson wrote: Matthew Johnson writes: Good point, something goes wrong on a commercial airliner very few, if anyone ever gets out alive... Not at all. Things go wrong in airliners flown by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Some European cities satelite photos

2003-08-27 Thread Martin Spott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But we also could need the ability to select the airport by city names and country for an 1.0 release, that's a lot easier than today where you need to know the airport ID to select it. You know that it might start to become troublesome to handle such a long list ?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-27 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 23:48, Mally wrote: Oh well, it's fun to pick on MS, and they do deserve most of it, if for no other reason to pressure them to do better. But you will have security problems and issues no matter what software and OS you run. It may be fun, but when it extends

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-27 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gene Buckle) [2003.08.27 10:12]: Gene Buckle writes: Thanks Norman. I wish they'd stop writing such crap. *sigh* g. On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Norman Vine wrote: FYI http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html It's just that I had far better things to

Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel][OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-27 Thread David Megginson
Matthew Johnson writes: Yes, if you see Bruce Willis on the plane ask to leave :). I should have phrased my thoughts a little better, any major failure on a commercial airline tends to result in heavy loss of life...Although I'd think there are far less id10t's in the air compared to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-27 Thread Mally
Matt The main swipes aren't so much at end users, as most just run what the computer came with, I am running Outlook Express because thats what came with the computer, this is the most common scenario, oh and it doesn't matter how much MS advertises any fault or any setting that helps

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-27 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:23, Mally wrote: Matt The main swipes aren't so much at end users, as most just run what the computer came with, I am running Outlook Express because thats what came with the computer, this is the most common scenario, oh and it doesn't matter how much MS

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-27 Thread Ryan Larson
Anyone have a static copy of terragear for linux? Ryan ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-27 Thread Gene Buckle
Gene, I'm a little late to this conversation, but I just wanted to point out that this advisory was released on March 3, 2003. This is not a new exploit in sendmail. If you've been running an unpatched sendmail this whole time, it may be too late. -- Good grief. Well I'm sure that

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Lightingambient, 1.6, 1.7

2003-08-27 Thread Jim Wilson
Hi Erik, I'm not sure what you mean by saner values for everything else. These values only affect the contrast, specifically the darkness of the shadows. Best, Jim Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Lighting In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv22959

[Flightgear-devel] Code Walkthrough

2003-08-27 Thread John Pitz
Hello everyone, I am a bit new to FlightGear. I am hoping to contribute to the coding, and was told to fly around and work on things that I think would be beneficial to add. Well, I have quite a few ideas, and they don't seem like they would be terribly difficult but the problem is I am not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Lightingambient, 1.6, 1.7

2003-08-27 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: Hi Erik, I'm not sure what you mean by saner values for everything else. These values only affect the contrast, specifically the darkness of the shadows. Take a look at this screenshot. The shaded part of the aircraft (and buildings but thats hard to see) is much too bright.