Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] swap chase views

2005-05-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 10 May 2005 12:42:48 +0200, Melchior wrote in message 
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> 
> PS: or is it called "Helicopter View" because a helicopter exposes the
> silliness of this view most impressively?  :-}

..an idea to build upon, call it "Debug Heli View".  ;o)

..expose it with the other experimental stuff, hide it for standard
usage, whatever that is.  ;o)

> PPS: one person ever complained about the "Chase View", because it
> made him "dizzy", but I don't think that's representative. There's 
> medication available for such symptoms!   ;-)

..hush!  ;o)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] swap chase views

2005-05-10 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
Anyone preferring "Helicopter View"?
Yes, me.
While the "Chase view" is a nice demonstration of the viewer code, I 
think most people prefer the "Helicopter view" because it doesn't have 
the problem of the view going out of sync with gravity.

Erik
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[Flightgear-devel] [RFC] swap chase views

2005-05-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Sorry for yet another RFC. But this is something that I have since a long
time in my personal copy, and I think it should be considered for CVS:

We have two chase views:

  view[1]: "Helicopter View"
  view[2]: "Chase View"

The so-called "Helicopter View" should actually be called "Cheesy View" or
"Camera on a long invisible stick mounted to the fuselage". If you apply
rudder/anti-torque the effect is that the aircraft stays fixed, but the
scenery swings left and right. I consider this view unusable except for some
very few cases, such as viewing taildraggers on ground or crashed aircraft.
In these cases the "Chase View" is unsuitable, because it tilts and doesn't
provide a natural view orientation. That's less than 0.01% of all cases
where I use outside view, though.

So the obvious fix for me was to swap view[1] and view[2], because I didn't
want to always press v and V twice so as to skip the silly "Helicopter View".
Consistency with obsolete fgfs versions and habits are IMHO no justification
for having the "exotic" chase view first.

Anyone preferring "Helicopter View"?

m.



PS: or is it called "Helicopter View" because a helicopter exposes the
silliness of this view most impressively?  :-}

PPS: one person ever complained about the "Chase View", because it made
 him "dizzy", but I don't think that's representative. There's
 medication available for such symptoms!   ;-)

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