Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer VATSIM-IVAO Network
Hi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! Yes, I know this topic has already been discussed and I know also that someone of you is working on the FG multiplayer code... anyway I think that it will be an advantage to the FG comunity to interface to IVAO and/or VATSIM networks. To implement VATSIM at least one of us has to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement, which is simply a no go. One way to provide compatibility with other simulations and improve multiplayermode in general is e.g. DIS (Distributed Inteactive Simulation) protocoll, or HLA (High Level Architecture) or similiar. However, Flightgear isn't ready to implement such protocolls due to lack of nessecary infrastructure. Other clients in multiplayer mode are not part of the simulation, they are only displayed. Flightgear has a long road to go, before real protocolls can be implemented. regards, Oliver ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer VATSIM-IVAO Network
Hi all! Yes, I know this topic has already been discussed and I know also that someone of you is working on the FG multiplayer code... anyway I think that it will be an advantage to the FG comunity to interface to IVAO and/or VATSIM networks. Ok, They don't want that a GPL tools is used to interface their network for secutity reasons (I think this is understandable) anyway why can't we join their network with their own code? Even if FG can't redistribute the necessary software they can do it... Why wasting that possibility? Maybe someone else will appreciate that feature... I'd like to help to implement that but at the moment I'm still learning... thank to everyone for the very good job you are doing! Ciao, Andrea V. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer VATSIM-IVAO Network
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! Yes, I know this topic has already been discussed and I know also that someone of you is working on the FG multiplayer code... anyway I think that it will be an advantage to the FG comunity to interface to IVAO and/or VATSIM networks. Ok, They don't want that a GPL tools is used to interface their network for secutity reasons (I think this is understandable) I'm opposed to it because it imposes a security risk to FlightGear. There's no way of knowing how secure their code is without the possibility to look at it. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer VATSIM-IVAO Network
On Sunday 14 August 2005 21:56, Erik Hofman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! Yes, I know this topic has already been discussed and I know also that someone of you is working on the FG multiplayer code... anyway I think that it will be an advantage to the FG comunity to interface to IVAO and/or VATSIM networks. Ok, They don't want that a GPL tools is used to interface their network for secutity reasons (I think this is understandable) I'm opposed to it because it imposes a security risk to FlightGear. There's no way of knowing how secure their code is without the possibility to look at it. Erik I'd be opposed to it to for the above mentioned and that VATSIM appear to only cater for the Windows OS. FlightGear has a diverse userbase using everything from SGI thru Linux to Mac so it would seem to be somewhat unsuitable for FlightGear. Dave Martin. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer VATSIM-IVAO Network
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I think that it will be an advantage to the FG comunity to interface to IVAO and/or VATSIM networks. Ok, They don't want that a GPL tools is used to interface their network for secutity reasons For security reasons ? What a joke Indeed, participating in a VATSIM betwork would be really beneficial for FlightGear - it's just that poeple obviously don't know from which direction the possible risk might come from, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer VATSIM-IVAO Network
It's not about security jvrvez wrote: Ok, They don't want that a GPL tools is used to interface their network for secutity reasons (I think this is understandable) anyway why can't we join their network with their own code? This is a non-starter. There is simply no way to make this work, sorry. They can make their code (or protocol) available under terms we can use, or not. It's not something about which we are able to compromise. Andy ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer VATSIM-IVAO Network
You might want to go back and check the email archives almost a year ago. We had discussions with the VATSIMfolks and it went nowhere. There was some thought of starting a development for FG using the TNL libraries, set up a small network test, but it all faded away due to lack of interest... JW Andy Ross wrote: It's not about security jvrvez wrote: Ok, They don't want that a GPL tools is used to interface their network for secutity reasons (I think this is understandable) anyway why can't we join their network with their own code? This is a non-starter. There is simply no way to make this work, sorry. They can make their code (or protocol) available under terms we can use, or not. It's not something about which we are able to compromise. Andy ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
