OT: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Laptop

2004-07-17 Thread Chris Horler
> Should probably end this thread now, the topic is wondering from being in
> the slightest flightgear related.
Bad form to reply to my own post.

I have decided not to go with an nvidia based system because the performance 
seems that much worse compared to the 9700 based ati graphics in some 
laptops.

For anyone interested, on monday I intend to get the 2.2kg Razor from

http://www.savrow.com/site/razor.html

with a 7200rpm 60gb drive, rather than 5400rpm 80gb drive.  Performance is
better from the 60gb drive and it is for the same price.  I'm just debating 
whether it's okay to opt for the 80gb drive, I'm not convinced though - all 
my drives in my desktop have faster seek times and the 60gb one is the only 
drive available that seems to offer similar performance.  Reading the 
manufacturers web site it is also based on newer technologies and consumes 
equal or less power (based on the shorter times required for reads).


Chris

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Laptop

2004-07-13 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Chris Horler wrote:
Interesting possibility... I wonder if you can get a solar powered laptop.
 

I don't know about a solar powered laptop, but I just got email from a 
nice individual trying to sell me a solar powered cell phone charger 
that works anywhere, any time, and will charge my phone in 15 seconds.  
He wasn't a very good speller, but it's amazing what they come up with.  
And how did he know I had a cell phone?  Well no matter, I thought this 
would be a great convenience so I called and ordered mine right away.

Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Laptop

2004-07-13 Thread Jon Stockill
Chris Horler wrote:
I think I'm going to look at the nvidia driver for acpi etc and then consider 
laptops again if the situation is any better.
From the most recent release highlights:
# Added support for ACPI
I'm running the 1.0-6106 driver here and it seems fine.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Laptop

2004-07-13 Thread Chris Horler
On Tuesday 13 July 2004 03:04, Al West wrote:
> On Monday 12 July 2004 00:39, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > ..http://www.google.com/search?q=laptop+replacement+battery
> > returns 577,000 hits, FWIW, auxillary drops those hits to 17200:
> > http://www.google.com/search?q=laptop+auxiliary+battery
>
> One thing to consider also is a 12V DC to 16-20V DC convertor (~20 UKP) and
> a sealed car/motorcycle battery (20+ UKP).
Interesting possibility... I wonder if you can get a solar powered laptop.

Should probably end this thread now, the topic is wondering from being in the 
slightest flightgear related.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Laptop

2004-07-13 Thread Chris Horler
On Tuesday 13 July 2004 05:26, Alex Perry wrote:
> From: Chris Horler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Are the problems you're experiencing with
> > the drivers only experience on a 64 bit system?
>
> No.  The driver is completely unusable in 64 bit mode.  In 32 bit mode,
> it works fine providing you don't try to use the most recent kernel.
> The 2.4.x series is fine, as is 2.6.5, but the more recent ones aren't.


> > What are the power saving features like for this driver?  Can you
> > configure anything worthwhile?
>
> I haven't tried.  It doesn't appear to have any ACPI support, for example.
I think I'm going to look at the nvidia driver for acpi etc and then consider 
laptops again if the situation is any better.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Laptop

2004-07-12 Thread Al West
On Monday 12 July 2004 00:39, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> ..http://www.google.com/search?q=laptop+replacement+battery
> returns 577,000 hits, FWIW, auxillary drops those hits to 17200:
> http://www.google.com/search?q=laptop+auxiliary+battery
>

One thing to consider also is a 12V DC to 16-20V DC convertor (~20 UKP) and a 
sealed car/motorcycle battery (20+ UKP).

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Laptop

2004-07-12 Thread Chris Horler
> You specifically need to decide whether weight is a factor for you:
> (a) a desk top replacement, will weigh about 8 lb ... a luggable
> (b) a lightweight powersaver, will weigh about 4 lb ... no gaming
conversion 2.2lbs = 1kg, so I guess I'm talking a 'not quite desktop 
replacement at ~7lbs.'
My personal computer at the moment is a 1GHz P3 with 512MB Ram and 32mb
geforce 2mx graphics.

For me a processor which has much more cache (4-8 times as I can't remember 
how much L2 cache a p3 100mhz fsb has).  4x the bus speed, and 1.7x the clock 
speed can't be that bad.  I'm not convinced processing power is the be all 
and end all any longer... in my mind that sounds fast enough for a processor.

I'm under the impression that the graphics is the most important thing, I 
would welcome critique as to where system limitations occur.

> My laptop has the 9600, can't help you on the support level for 9700.
> If you visit the ATI discussion boards, you'll find that ATI have been
> playing marketing name games with the recently released chip designs.
I have emailed ati, no response as yet.  I will look at these discussion 
boards.  What I don't understand is they have one document indicating that 
everything above radeon  is supported and another saying only certain 
specific chipsets are supported.  Are the problems you're experiencing with 
the drivers only experience on a 64 bit system?

What are the power saving features like for this driver?  Can you configure 
anything worthwhile?

Thanks for the input... t- minus 3 days and counting...

Regards,

Chris

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Laptop

2004-07-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:37:45 -0700 (PDT), Alex wrote in message 
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> You may have trouble buying a battery ... without a laptop included;
> that's what happened to me.  The limit on the number of computers that
> the manufacturer could sell was the number of batteries available.
> They'd rather sell full laptops than just the battery, of course.

..http://www.google.com/search?q=laptop+replacement+battery 
returns 577,000 hits, FWIW, auxillary drops those hits to 17200:
http://www.google.com/search?q=laptop+auxiliary+battery

..http://pwrplant.com/notebook.html looks like a viable option, 
and a DIY idea, a layer of good AA cells under a thinkpad 
buys you, say, 12V 27Ah.  ;-)

..oh and for IMU auto-calibration:  ;-)
http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/198
http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/2238

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