Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog 2.12

2013-07-17 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Gijs de Rooy  wrote:
> Hi Stuart,
>
> thanks for the improvements! Checking the diff I do wonder if you removed
> the "Microsoft SideWinder Precision Racing Wheel (rudder) pedals" line on
> purpose? Vivian added this one in March...
>
> https://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata/commit/9dcb78c2248

Good spot.  That was a mistake.  Now corrected.

-Stuart

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog 2.12

2013-07-15 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi Stuart,

thanks for the improvements! Checking the diff I do wonder if you removed 
the "Microsoft SideWinder Precision Racing Wheel (rudder) pedals" line on
purpose? Vivian added this one in March...

https://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata/commit/9dcb78c2248 

Cheers,
Gijs
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog 2.12

2013-07-15 Thread James Turner

On 15 Jul 2013, at 00:45, Vivian Meazza  wrote:

> POI on the map are disabled in Windows (well they are here). Otherwise quite
> an impressive list.

That's because of strange performance problems loading the file on Windows, 
which someone on a Windows box needs to investigate if they want this feature 
enabled. There's a one-line #ifdef to enable if you wish to experiment.

Regards,
James

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog 2.12

2013-07-14 Thread Renk Thorsten
> On a related note there's also the question of the mouse modes to
> consider.  I no-longer use the old-style mouse modes, instead using
> the right-click-to-pan-view mode instead.  Should that be available
> through the GUI (in which case I've got to re-write various parts of
> The Manua)

I'm a mouse only pilot, and I'm still using the old mode for two reasons: 
First, the new mode requires tab to change mode, which you need to do 
frequently without a joystick, and that key is mapped on some planes (the ufo 
or the Lightning come to my mind) to other functions which leads to trouble. 

Second (and that's less relevant) - old mode is quite a deep habit, and if I 
just fall back to what I was used to while in a helicopter, I end up being so 
dead and crashed.

I think in general the new style is superior, especially if you're a joystick 
user - so I would tend to make the new behaviour default, I think mouse-only 
control is a minority position and doesn't need to be default as long as we 
keep the old style optionally.

* Thorsten
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog 2.12

2013-07-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
Stuart

> Sent: 14 July 2013 23:09
> To: FlightGear developers discussions
> Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog 2.12
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I've just taken a trawl through the git logs to find the major
enhancements
> from the last 6 months, the results of which are now in the Changelog:
> 
> http://wiki.flightgear.org/Changelog_2.12
> 
> Comments welcome, particularly on what should be mentioned in the
> "highlights" section at the end of the first paragraph:
> 
> "The FlightGear development team is happy to announce the v2.12 release
> of FlightGear, the free, open-source flight simulator. This new version
> contains many exciting new features, enhancements and bugfixes. Highlights
> in this release include improved usability, continued development of the
> Canvas rendering toolkit, and improved scenery rendering. "
> 
> I'd also like suggestions of other new or majorly improved aircraft that
have
> had particular updates over the last 6 months.
> 
> I'm also not sure whether or not we should include tooltips in the feature
list.
> They are currently switched off by default in preferences.xml and can only
> be switched on from within the Debug menu. James - are they now mature
> enough that we should switched them on by default?
> 
> On a related note there's also the question of the mouse modes to
consider.
> I no-longer use the old-style mouse modes, instead using the
right-click-to-
> pan-view mode instead.  Should that be available through the GUI (in which
> case I've got to re-write various parts of The Manua)


POI on the map are disabled in Windows (well they are here). Otherwise quite
an impressive list.

Vivian


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