Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 19, Issue 25
LeeE wrote Sent: 30 November 2007 00:13 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 19, Issue 25 On Thursday 29 November 2007 21:55, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Hey, * BARANGER Emmanuel -- Thursday 29 November 2007: Also, file names with spaces in them are garbage. There should be none of those in CVS. AAAHHHRRGGG ! The suprises CVS files which do not for the drive :( I erased now. Sorry. No problem. Not a big one, anyway. I'm happy about every new, great aircraft. (Especially the AlouetteII -- we've had some of them in our army, too, -- or the BV141). It's only natural that we use more disk space with every new one, but we have to make sure that we don't just waste it. Compressing textures is one thing to consider, not committing unnecessary files is another, such as *.bak, *.blend, *~ files. Or a few of those: :-} $ l SeaHawk* Models/SeaHawk-FGA6-WV859.ac -rw-r--r-- 1 m m 1453387 2007-09-28 01:18 Models/SeaHawk-FGA6-WV859.ac -rw--- 1 m m 707301 2003-04-21 22:29 Models/SeaHawk-WV908.ac -rw--- 1 m m 113282 2003-01-03 17:58 Models/SeaHawk.3ds -rw--- 1 m m 715739 2003-02-14 16:29 Models/SeaHawk.ac -rw--- 1 m m 226548 2003-01-09 16:04 Models/SeaHawkpair.3ds m. I'm pretty sure that the SeaHawk.ac, SeaHawk.3ds SeaHawkpair.3ds can be done away with right now. I think Vivian is doing all his development on WV859 and I'd like to keep WV908, if only as a placeholder and reminder, as it's the RNHF aircraft - afaik it's currently the only flying example. At some point I'd like to refine the 3d model geometry and then unify the two versions (perhaps it will only need different skins), incorporating all the development that Vivian has done... ...or Vivian might decide to do it before I do :) Ok with you Vivian? Yes, we must have WV908, but I don't think we would want to retain more then the textures for that longer term: doing an alternate livery is on my todo list. Otherwise the rest is all your stuff, and if you are content to have it removed, I'll do that. Your call. Hmm Mathias wanted to do a wingman using AI techniques ages ago, and it's always in the back of my mind. One of these days ... Vivian - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 19, Issue 25
On Friday 30 November 2007 08:17, Vivian Meazza wrote: [snip...] I'm pretty sure that the SeaHawk.ac, SeaHawk.3ds SeaHawkpair.3ds can be done away with right now. I think Vivian is doing all his development on WV859 and I'd like to keep WV908, if only as a placeholder and reminder, as it's the RNHF aircraft - afaik it's currently the only flying example. At some point I'd like to refine the 3d model geometry and then unify the two versions (perhaps it will only need different skins), incorporating all the development that Vivian has done... ...or Vivian might decide to do it before I do :) Ok with you Vivian? Yes, we must have WV908, but I don't think we would want to retain more then the textures for that longer term: doing an alternate livery is on my todo list. Otherwise the rest is all your stuff, and if you are content to have it removed, I'll do that. Your call. Hmm Mathias wanted to do a wingman using AI techniques ages ago, and it's always in the back of my mind. One of these days ... Vivian Yup - alternate livery is the way to go. Are there any significant differences between the two YASim configs? I remember you once queried the forward wing-sweep I'd used but that was because YASim uses a mid-chord reference and not quarter-chord - if it was quarter-chord the sweep would be zero. Ah - the 3d-yasim config has the same sweep - any other differences? Your FDM config is probably more developed than the one I did. Other than that, I guess whoever wants to start first just needs to let the other know for last-minute checks and so that any plans can be merged. I don't foresee any real problems. LeeE - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 19, Issue 25
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:48:29 +0100 From: Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Aircraft/Arsenal-VG33 - New directory, NONE, NONE To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Melchior, This aircraft thoughtlessly copies over 500 kB sound files from another aircraft, although the sounds aren't even used! Don't do that! 203516 2007-11-29 15:26 Spitfire Flyby.wav 41018 2007-11-29 15:26 Spitfire MK IX.wav 173756 2007-11-29 15:26 merlin_rpm2.wav 86940 2007-11-29 15:26 merlin_rpm3.wav Also, file names with spaces in them are garbage. There should be none of those in CVS. AAAHHHRRGGG ! The suprises CVS files which do not for the drive :( I erased now. Sorry. I just delete the whole folder Aircraft before making a new update. So I would have fewer unpleasant surprises. Yes, I do no longer care if aircraft follow any policies or reason, but it's my disk space, after all. And now I don't diktate that anymore, I just discuss it and complain about it publically. Which might end up being even less pleasant. :-P Still sorry, but do not read the English I just rarely read devel-list. Fortunately several people warned me. My reaction time will thus not always as fast. Best Regards. Emmanuel PS: though new aircraft contributions are, of course, welcome as always. -- BARANGER Emmanuel http://helijah.free.fr http://helijah.free.fr/Pack_3D http://helijah.free.fr/flightgear/flightgear.htm http://helijah.free.fr/flightgear/H4-Hercules.htm http://helijah.free.fr/flightgear/hangar.htm - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 19, Issue 25
Hey, * BARANGER Emmanuel -- Thursday 29 November 2007: Also, file names with spaces in them are garbage. There should be none of those in CVS. AAAHHHRRGGG ! The suprises CVS files which do not for the drive :( I erased now. Sorry. No problem. Not a big one, anyway. I'm happy about every new, great aircraft. (Especially the AlouetteII -- we've had some of them in our army, too, -- or the BV141). It's only natural that we use more disk space with every new one, but we have to make sure that we don't just waste it. Compressing textures is one thing to consider, not committing unnecessary files is another, such as *.bak, *.blend, *~ files. Or a few of those: :-} $ l SeaHawk* Models/SeaHawk-FGA6-WV859.ac -rw-r--r-- 1 m m 1453387 2007-09-28 01:18 Models/SeaHawk-FGA6-WV859.ac -rw--- 1 m m 707301 2003-04-21 22:29 SeaHawk-WV908.ac -rw--- 1 m m 113282 2003-01-03 17:58 SeaHawk.3ds -rw--- 1 m m 715739 2003-02-14 16:29 SeaHawk.ac -rw--- 1 m m 226548 2003-01-09 16:04 SeaHawkpair.3ds m. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 19, Issue 25
On Thursday 29 November 2007 21:55, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Hey, * BARANGER Emmanuel -- Thursday 29 November 2007: Also, file names with spaces in them are garbage. There should be none of those in CVS. AAAHHHRRGGG ! The suprises CVS files which do not for the drive :( I erased now. Sorry. No problem. Not a big one, anyway. I'm happy about every new, great aircraft. (Especially the AlouetteII -- we've had some of them in our army, too, -- or the BV141). It's only natural that we use more disk space with every new one, but we have to make sure that we don't just waste it. Compressing textures is one thing to consider, not committing unnecessary files is another, such as *.bak, *.blend, *~ files. Or a few of those: :-} $ l SeaHawk* Models/SeaHawk-FGA6-WV859.ac -rw-r--r-- 1 m m 1453387 2007-09-28 01:18 Models/SeaHawk-FGA6-WV859.ac -rw--- 1 m m 707301 2003-04-21 22:29 Models/SeaHawk-WV908.ac -rw--- 1 m m 113282 2003-01-03 17:58 Models/SeaHawk.3ds -rw--- 1 m m 715739 2003-02-14 16:29 Models/SeaHawk.ac -rw--- 1 m m 226548 2003-01-09 16:04 Models/SeaHawkpair.3ds m. I'm pretty sure that the SeaHawk.ac, SeaHawk.3ds SeaHawkpair.3ds can be done away with right now. I think Vivian is doing all his development on WV859 and I'd like to keep WV908, if only as a placeholder and reminder, as it's the RNHF aircraft - afaik it's currently the only flying example. At some point I'd like to refine the 3d model geometry and then unify the two versions (perhaps it will only need different skins), incorporating all the development that Vivian has done... ...or Vivian might decide to do it before I do :) Ok with you Vivian? LeeE - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
