Re: [Flightgear-devel] configuration info (svn part)
Wow, what a debate. This is a reply to an early post in this thread. On 2/5/10 6:21 PM, Martin Spott wrote: Jari Häkkinen wrote: Actually I think subversion support in terrasync should be removed altogether or fixed. If removed then all svn checks could be removed. Oh my, could you _please_ stop this litany ? One posting of this sort per day should really be enough, two or more are a nuisance. According to my experience you're trying to make people throw the baby out with the bath water, which is not appropriate here. Well, I am only trying to suggest improvements to the code/build environment. I think this is the first time I actually suggest a feature to be thrown out. I remember trying to convince developers to remove dependencies on PLIB parts that are implicitly stated to not being used according to the fg build instructions. I have suggested that some code should be conditionally built (i.e. by doing make check). I had a few more posts but my hope and intent is that my postings actually improves fg. Nae, sorry Martin I have something more to say about terragear and subversion. I posted my previous message with a few things in mind 1) Document for other newcomers (I been around for one year soon but still consider me a fg code beginner since I only look at the code occasionally) that there are some strange features wrt subversion and terragear. They might catch this thread through their favourite search engine. 2) I wanted to report the bug (oups there I used the nasty word) in terrasync ... it locks directories. I gave a reference to another posting where I think it was clear that the issue was not being fixed by the father of the baby. 3) Also, on my machine with subversion development libs the configuration script fails out of the box. Therefore I attached a patch for others to use or ignore. 4) I also acknowledged the fact that Geoffs was right but I wanted to highlight that the terragear flaw is still valid. Geoffs response to my posting explains why he is not experiencing the issues I see. If we were to drop every feature which _might_ occasionally have a malfunction here or there, then we would end up with having no FlightGear at all, The problem is that the terrasync issue happens almost every time I run fg but then of course terragear is started each time I run fg (even for short tests). There are many directories to sync each time terrasync stars. I don't want to drop features and I am crazy enough to run terragear with the current subversion flaw ... hoping it will be fixed some day. Am I the only one using subversion built-in terragear? Cheers, Jari -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] configuration info (svn part)
On 2/5/10 4:04 PM, Geoff McLane wrote: But I have had more time to write, and test a BETTER patch attached that :- (a) does NOT change the svn_client.h lines ;=((, (a) should be changed, I agree with your original proposal. Actually I think subversion support in terrasync should be removed altogether or fixed. If removed then all svn checks could be removed. And I hope your other 'svn' changes also make it into CVS... I attach my suggested svn related changes to configure.ac for reference for other new builders of fg. Note, apply the patch cautiously since having svn calls in terrasync may lock the terrasync-WC directories in some cases (with fairly high probability). Maybe there should be a check for APR but I suppose that if svn-devel package are installed then also apr will be available. Geoff, how do you make it through the svn check in configure.ac or really building terrasync? Jari Index: configure.ac === RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/configure.ac,v retrieving revision 1.166 diff -u -p -r1.166 configure.ac --- configure.ac5 Feb 2010 05:40:15 - 1.166 +++ configure.ac5 Feb 2010 16:40:26 - @@ -787,10 +803,9 @@ fi dnl Check for Subversion library support save_LIBS=$LIBS save_CPPFLAGS=$CPPFLAGS -LIBS= +LIBS=`apr-1-config --link-ld` CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/include/subversion-1 `apr-1-config --includes` -AC_CHECK_LIB(svn_client-1, svn_client_checkout3) -AC_CHECK_HEADERS([svn_client.h glut.h]) +AC_CHECK_HEADERS([svn_client.h]) if test x$ac_cv_header_svn_client_h != xyes; then echo TerraSync will shell out for command line subversion svn_LIBS= @@ -798,6 +813,11 @@ if test x$ac_cv_header_svn_client_h != else echo TerraSync will use integrated subversion library AC_SEARCH_LIBS(svn_client_checkout, svn_client-1) + AC_SEARCH_LIBS(svn_delta_version, svn_delta-1) + AC_SEARCH_LIBS(svn_diff_version, svn_diff-1) + AC_SEARCH_LIBS(svn_ra_initialize, svn_ra-1) + AC_SEARCH_LIBS(svn_pool_create_ex, svn_subr-1) + AC_SEARCH_LIBS(svn_wc_version, svn_wc-1) svn_LIBS=$LIBS svn_CPPFLAGS=$CPPFLAGS AC_SUBST(svn_LIBS) -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] configuration info (svn part)
Jari Häkkinen wrote: Actually I think subversion support in terrasync should be removed altogether or fixed. If removed then all svn checks could be removed. Oh my, could you _please_ stop this litany ? One posting of this sort per day should really be enough, two or more are a nuisance. According to my experience you're trying to make people throw the baby out with the bath water, which is not appropriate here. If we were to drop every feature which _might_ occasionally have a malfunction here or there, then we would end up with having no FlightGear at all, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] configuration info (svn part)
Martin Spott wrote: Oh my, could you _please_ stop this litany ? One posting of this sort per day should really be enough, two or more are a nuisance. According to my experience you're trying to make people throw the baby out with the bath water, which is not appropriate here. which, BTW, doesn't mean that I'm against having a fix to clean up open connections and/or pending SVN locks, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] configuration info (svn part)
Hi Jari, Geoff, how do you make it through the svn check in configure.ac or really building terrasync? I don't have any problems ;=)) utils/TerraSync/ terrasync builds without ANY problems in my 64-bit Ubuntu 8.04... I do _NOT_ have the svn library, nor svn_client.h installed, but of course do have runtime svn version 1.5.1 (r32289), and rsync version 3.0.4, protocol version 30, so assume fgfs would shell out, IF NEED BE... But I _NEVER_ use TerraSync! It is abhorrent to me that fgfs should need to download 'scenery' to my machine, on the fly, as it is, putting it somewhere... UGH! But to be sure, the concept of 'terrasyncing' is good, for those who want to use it, and should be continued, and fixed if there are problems, but for me, like 'real' piloting, I prefer to make sure I have all the maps, oops I mean scenery, BEFORE I go there ;=)) I have downloaded, and installed 100% of the current scenery 1.0.1, and will do the same as each new build is done... HDD space is really cheap these days... Or I could burn my own DVDs, or better still toss a few bucks to Curt and get the DVD set by mail... As simple as that ;=)) Regards, Geoff. PS: I hope this post is NOT classified as part of any 'litany' ;=() -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
