Re: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parse error: C:/Program Files/FlightGear/data/system.fgfsrc '--prop: encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread Erik Hofman
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topicforum=198topic_id=442mode=full Changing the content inside fgfsrc didn't work. I am out of idea. =( I think he's using fgrun. That utility will always overwrite the contents of the .fgfsrc file on Unix. Maybe the same

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Chris Tulloch
This reminds me of file permissions problem... Chris Tulloch On Saturday 11 December 2004 12:30 pm, Francis X. Maier wrote: Last login: Sat Dec 11 10:21:44 on ttyp2 Welcome to Darwin! Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ cd /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6 Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ls

RE: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parseerror: C:/ProgramFiles/FlightGear/data/system.fgfsrc '--prop: encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread Vivian Meazza
Erik Hofman wrote: Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topicforum=198topic_id=442m ode=full Changing the content inside fgfsrc didn't work. I am out of idea. =( I think he's using fgrun. That utility will always overwrite the contents of the

Re: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parseerror: C:/ProgramFiles/FlightGear/data/system.fgfsrc '--prop: encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Sunday, 12 December 2004 11:51, Vivian Meazza wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: I think he's using fgrun. That utility will always overwrite the contents of the .fgfsrc file on Unix. Maybe the same thing happens on Windows with the system.fgfsrc file? Yes, it does. Yet another reason why I

Re: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parseerror: C:/ProgramFiles/FlightGear/data/system.fgfsrc '--prop: encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:16:03 +0200, Paul wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday, 12 December 2004 11:51, Vivian Meazza wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: I think he's using fgrun. That utility will always overwrite the contents of the .fgfsrc file on Unix. Maybe the same thing happens

Re: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parseerror: C:/ProgramFiles/FlightGear/data/system.fgfsrc '--prop: encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread Dave Martin
On Sunday 12 Dec 2004 11:16, Paul Surgeon wrote: Being able to select everything from inside the sim is going to make a lot of problems go away especially for noobs who don't know what a command line is. I'll bet tho that it would increase the incidence of people moaning that the aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parseerror: C:/ProgramFiles/FlightGear/data/system.fgfsrc '--prop: encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Sunday, 12 December 2004 14:51, Dave Martin wrote: On Sunday 12 Dec 2004 11:16, Paul Surgeon wrote: Being able to select everything from inside the sim is going to make a lot of problems go away especially for noobs who don't know what a command line is. I'll bet tho that it would

Re: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parseerror: C:/ProgramFiles/FlightGear/data/system.fgfsrc '--prop: encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Sunday, 12 December 2004 14:02, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:16:03 +0200, Paul wrote in message Yet another reason why I would love to see everything integrated into the FlightGear binary ..I disagree, big fat binaries get fat and bloated and draggy. I don't see how

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Francis X. Maier
I don't think so; I've doublechecked my permissions. Fran On Dec 11, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Chris Tulloch wrote: This reminds me of file permissions problem... Chris Tulloch On Saturday 11 December 2004 12:30 pm, Francis X. Maier wrote: Last login: Sat Dec 11 10:21:44 on ttyp2 Welcome to Darwin!

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I know little about the mac, but I can tell right away that the file path you have is wrong: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs If you've only ever dealt with clickable folders, the concept of file paths might be a bit foreign, but absolute paths (and I think you want absolute, not

Re: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parseerror: C:/ProgramFiles/FlightGear/data/system.fgfsrc '--prop: encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Sunday 12 December 2004 14:55, Paul Surgeon wrote: I'll bet tho that it would increase the incidence of people moaning that the aircraft is 'broken' and 'always pulling to the left'. I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Are you suggesting we should prevent people from using single

Re: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parseerror: C:/ProgramFiles/FlightGear/data/system.fgfsrc '--prop: encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread Dave Martin
On Sunday 12 Dec 2004 14:21, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On the other hand we have persons that do know what a command line is. Obviously he/she who knows what a command line is also knows how an aircraft behaves, right. ;-) Thats a very good point that I hadn't thought of ;)

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Alfonso J . Lebron-Berges
This is the path I am using, and the results are the same. I think the use of / is right here or am I wrong? Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: This is the path I am using, and the results are the same. I think the use of / is right here or am I wrong? Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Alfonso J . Lebron-Berges
That is precisely what puzzles me. The DATA folder is in the same directory where fgfs is. And it contains all that you mention, ie: textures, models, scenery, aircraft, sounds, ... ?? Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:46 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: This is the path

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Francis X. Maier
Agh! What's baffling me about this is I also have a Linux box where I successfully installed this game, but the graphics card was weak, so I want to run it on my G5. Alfonso, if I read the exchanges between Jonathan Polley and Jim Smeall correctly shouldn't there be a / before

RE: [Flightgear-users] Config file parse error...

2004-12-12 Thread Jon Berndt
I don't see how adding a flight planner, aircraft selection and other useful features is going to bloat the code so much that is runs like a snail. ..these should be _separate_ small programs, not one big ass binary. And, yes, I agree these are useful, and they should be called from FG

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Francis X. Maier
Right. Misread it. But that only deepens the mystery! ;-) Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:37 AM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: Yes. And that is the way I have it Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Francis X. Maier
Curt, But that doesn't explain this response: Last login: Sun Dec 12 08:58:04 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ...

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Francis X. Maier
If it matters, my (invisible) .fgfsrc file is located in /Users/franx2. It is not located in /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6. Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:52 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: Yes. And that is the way I have it Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Francis X. Maier wrote: If it matters, my (invisible) .fgfsrc file is located in /Users/franx2. It is not located in /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6. That is the correct place (at least for standard unix.) Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: That is precisely what puzzles me. The DATA folder is in the same directory where fgfs is. And it contains all that you mention, ie: textures, models, scenery, aircraft, sounds, ... Right, but the error message indicates that FG is looking in

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Francis X. Maier wrote: Curt, But that doesn't explain this response: Last login: Sun Dec 12 08:58:04 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread James Smeall
I moved the FlightGear folder into my home directory, ie when I click on the house in the dock that is where FlightGear is. Not in the applications folder. I know almost nothing about Unix but I followed Jonathan's instructions and I got it to work. Perhaps the location and the path is the

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Francis X. Maier
HOLY COW, that was it !!! Thanks Curt. It was the $ all along. Dohh. Many thanks! Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 9:12 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Francis X. Maier wrote: Curt, But that doesn't explain this response: Last login: Sun Dec 12 08:58:04 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin!

Re: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parseerror: C:/ProgramFiles/FlightGear/data/system .fgfsrc '--prop: encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread David Luff
On 12/12/04 at 3:55 PM Paul Surgeon wrote: M$FS has realism sliders that affect aircraft handling and they are set to noob by default. It works just fine and I don't see why we can't do the same. I personally have nothing against providing a helping hand, such as autorudder. However, I

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Francis X. Maier
Jim, I got it going based on exchanges with Curt earlier today on this list. In my case I had a $ in front of /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6 in my run_fgfs and Flight_Resource files. When I removed it, voila. Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:07 AM, James Smeall wrote: I moved the FlightGear folder

Re: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parse error: C:/Program Files/FlightGear/data/system.fgfsrc '--prop: encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On December 12, 2004 03:52 am, Erik Hofman wrote: http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topicforum=198topic_id=442; mode=full Changing the content inside fgfsrc didn't work.  I am out of idea. =( I think he's using fgrun. That utility will always overwrite the contents of the

Re: [Flightgear-users] Something for the weekend (giggle)

2004-12-12 Thread David Megginson
For anyone wondering why Dave included a giggle in the subject line, I'm guessing that it's because something for the weekend, sir? is the way British barbers used to offer to sell condoms to customers. I don't know why I know this, but I'm sure it's wasting space in my brain that could be used

Re: [Flightgear-users] Something for the weekend (giggle)

2004-12-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson wrote: For anyone wondering why Dave included a giggle in the subject line, I'm guessing that it's because something for the weekend, sir? is the way British barbers used to offer to sell condoms to customers. I don't know why I know this, but I'm sure it's wasting space in my

Re: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parseerror: C:/ProgramFiles/FlightGear/data/system.fgfsrc '--prop: encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread Sid Boyce
Dave Martin wrote: On Sunday 12 Dec 2004 13:55, Paul Surgeon wrote: I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I'm inferring that if you invite the uninitiated (I hate the term 'noob') then that is exactly what you will receive (in all forms) Are you suggesting we should prevent people from

Re: [Flightgear-users] Something for the weekend (giggle)

2004-12-12 Thread Sid Boyce
David Megginson wrote: For anyone wondering why Dave included a giggle in the subject line, I'm guessing that it's because something for the weekend, sir? is the way British barbers used to offer to sell condoms to customers. I don't know why I know this, but I'm sure it's wasting space in my

RE: [Flightgear-users] Something for the weekend (giggle)

2004-12-12 Thread Bill Galbraith
David Megginson wrote: For anyone wondering why Dave included a giggle in the subject line, I'm guessing that it's because something for the weekend, sir? is the way British barbers used to offer to sell condoms to customers. I don't know why I know this, but I'm sure it's

[Flightgear-users] New user with a few questions

2004-12-12 Thread w1dgeteye
Why don't some of the keys work? Such as the Panel key (P) doesn't get rid of the pilots panel. the mini panel key (s) doesn't do anything to the panel the shift panel keys Shift-f5/f6 Shiftf7/f8 doesn't move the panel. Ok, wait a minute. I was just screwing around and discovered that if I do

RE: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parseerror:C:/ProgramFiles/FlightGear/data/system.fgfsrc'--prop: encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread Bill Galbraith
Dave Martin wrote: On Sunday 12 Dec 2004 13:55, Paul Surgeon wrote: I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I'm inferring that if you invite the uninitiated (I hate the term 'noob') then that is exactly what you will receive (in all forms) Are you suggesting we should

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Alfonso J . Lebron-Berges
Isn't this a valid path? [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:12 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Francis X. Maier wrote: Curt, But that doesn't explain this response: Last login: Sun Dec 12 08:58:04 on ttyp1 Welcome to

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Francis X. Maier
Al, Post both your run_fgfs file readout and your Flight_Resource readout. You have to be really close. Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:37 PM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: Isn't this a valid path? [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Al On

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Alfonso J . Lebron-Berges
I found it with Find. It is in my home directory (alfonsol) [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs Al On Dec 13, 2004, at 12:02 AM, Francis X. Maier wrote: Al, You should have your invisible .fgfsrc file __not__ in your FlightGear0.9.6 folder,

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Alfonso J . Lebron-Berges
I have repaired mine, at least three times to no avail. Al On Dec 11, 2004, at 5:41 PM, Chris Tulloch wrote: This reminds me of file permissions problem... Chris Tulloch On Saturday 11 December 2004 12:30 pm, Francis X. Maier wrote: Last login: Sat Dec 11 10:21:44 on ttyp2 Welcome to Darwin!

Re: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parseerror: C:/ProgramFiles/FlightGear/data/system.fgfsrc '--prop: encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 15:49:50 +0200, Paul wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday, 12 December 2004 14:02, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:16:03 +0200, Paul wrote in message Yet another reason why I would love to see everything integrated into the FlightGear binary

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Francis X. Maier
Same here. I have a data folder with all the packages, and even a version file with the sole contents 0.9.6. Fran Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:18 AM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: That is precisely what puzzles me. The DATA folder is in the same directory where fgfs is. And it contains all

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Francis X. Maier
Curt, What should the path be? This tells me that fgfs is located in my home folder (/Users/franx) in the subfolder /FlightGear0.9.6. Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 7:20 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I know little about the mac, but I can tell right away that the file path you have is wrong:

Re: [Flightgear-users] Config file parse error...

2004-12-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 09:43:28 -0600, Jon wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't see how adding a flight planner, aircraft selection and other useful features is going to bloat the code so much that is runs like a snail. ..these should be _separate_ small programs, not one big

RE: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parseerror:C:/ProgramFiles/FlightGear/data/system .fgfsrc '--prop:encountered in XP

2004-12-12 Thread Bill Galbraith
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Luff Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 12:23 PM To: FlightGear user discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] [from AVSIM] Config file parseerror:C:/ProgramFiles/FlightGear/data/system

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Alfonso J . Lebron-Berges
There, in my home directory, is where I have it too. But to no avail so far. Another stupid question (Mac): when I was using version 0.9.4 there was a file called fgfs (info. describes it as Unix executable file) AND another called FlightGear (described as Application) both in the same

Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem

2004-12-12 Thread Francis X. Maier
Al, You should have your invisible .fgfsrc file __not__ in your FlightGear0.9.6 folder, but outside it in your home directory. You might check that. You can download the freeware TinkerTool program that will reveal that for you. Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:50 PM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges