[Flightgear-users] Re: fgfs 0.9.6 scenery instalation

2004-12-08 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Ampere K. Hardraade -- Wednesday 08 December 2004 01:06:
 On December 7, 2004 03:52 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
  Good Idea. We could call it system.fgfsrc, or ~/.fgfsrc, or even
  ~/.fgfsrc.hostname!
 
 If the file already exists and it is supposed to be in my directory, I can't 
 find it.

Why do you assume that fgfs writes your *personal* configuration files already?
Of course, you have to create them yourself, just like every other of the
personal config files in your directory (apart from those that were copied
over from /etc/skel/, but that's a different matter, because your distributor
put them there. He could put .fgfsrc there, too, but that's not fgfs' business).
Who wrote your .procmailrc, your .netrc, your .openalrc, your .vimrc, ...?  :-]

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: fgfs 0.9.6 scenery instalation

2004-12-08 Thread Erik Hofman
Andrew Midosn wrote:
I don't know if this will be of interest to anyone,
but I have started working on a 'front-end' to
FlightGear. It's written in Python using the wxPython
GUI library, and at the moment just lets you select an
aircraft, airport and runway, although I was planning
on including as many of the command-line arguments as
I can. I started it because I' too lazy to keep typing
the arguments in, but I like to experiment. :-) I was
thinking that it could be extended to read .fgfsrc, or
a separate config file, to get a set of startup
defaults. I'll look into getting it hosted somewhere,
if anyone would like to take a look.
Are you familliar with fgrun:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fgrun
This is a C++ utility doing basically the same.
Erik
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[Flightgear-users] .fgfsrc (was: Re: fgfs 0.9.6 scenery instalation)

2004-12-08 Thread Melchior FRANZ
[.fgfsrc]

* Ampere K. Hardraade -- Wednesday 08 December 2004 01:06:
 If the file already exists and it is supposed to be in my directory, I can't 
 find it.

I recommend to only put as few lines into ~/.fgfsrc as possible, e.g.:


=== ~/.fgfsrc ===
--config=/home/foo/.fgfs/preferences.xml
--fg-root=/usr/local/share/FlightGear
--fg-scenery=/home/foo/.fgfs/Scenery:/usr/local/share/FlightGear/Scenery:...



and then to create a directory ~/.fgfs/ with a file preferences.xml. Here
you can easily copy things over from $FG_ROOT/preferences.xml and make
local changes here. Likewise for keyboard.xml, joysticks.xml, mice.xml etc.
I also have a directory ~/.fgfs/Scenery/ there, where I put local changes
to scenery etc. 



=== ~/.fgfs/preferences.xml ===
?xml version=1.0?

PropertyList
input
!--keyboard include=keyboard.xml/--
!--joysticks include=joysticks.xml/--
!--mice include=mice.xml/--
/input

environment
params
real-world-weather-fetch 
type=booltrue/real-world-weather-fetch
...
/PropertyList



Actually, I don't really have ~/.fgfsrc, because this place was too dangerous
since fgrun overwrites it (which I consider an annoying bug). Instead, I have a
wrapper program ~/bin/fgfs that sets a few necessary options that have no
xml equivalent on the commandline. And I don't even use fgrun ...  :-]

m.

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[Flightgear-users] OSX

2004-12-08 Thread Francis X. Maier
Folks,
I successfully installed FlightGear on my Linux box, but the hardware 
was too slow to run it well.  So I'm trying FG on my G5 running OS 
10.3.6.  I follow the readme -- exactly, I think -- but I can't launch 
the sim.  Can anyone direct me to a careful Mac installation 
step-by-step?

Also, obvious question:  In Linux, I needed both FG and a base package. 
 In OSX, is the binary all I need?  or do I need a base package too, 
and if so, where can I get it?

TIA.
franx
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[Flightgear-users] Problems with runway lights

2004-12-08 Thread Bartosz Krysztop
Hi,

I'm using flightgear software for some time and I find it very interesting and 
valuable project.

Recently I've posted mail asking for help with my flightgear running on windows 
on radeon 9000 card: there are no runway lights visible. Some changes in 
configuration result in appearing runway lights, then however, rendering seems 
to be software-based (fps  1). Unfortunatelly there were no answers.

I don't know if ATI radeon card is popular among flightgear users. If there is 
someone using that one and no problem with it would be nice to know that. I'm 
planning to install flightgear from sources on linux (fedora), however this 
requires some initial effort to setup everything up and I would be glad to hear 
to linux versions cause no problems.

(I hope it wasn't too long to read.)

thank you in advance,

Bartek



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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-08 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Thursday 14 October 2004 08:19, Chris Ridley wrote:
 Found a very interesting program at http://learn.arc.nasa.gov/worldwind

I've been playing around with World Wind, and I think that it would be 
possible to use it as a moving map display for FlightGear (just like Atlas). 
I tried to averlay a few NDB symbols onto the globe, and it worked great. I 
guess I should make some kind of script to parse the files in navaid and 
convert to World Wind's xml format.

-- 
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Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: fgfs 0.9.6 scenery instalation

2004-12-08 Thread Charalampos Alexopoulos
Erik Hofman wrote:
Andrew Midosn wrote:
I don't know if this will be of interest to anyone,
but I have started working on a 'front-end' to
FlightGear. It's written in Python using the wxPython
GUI library, and at the moment just lets you select an
aircraft, airport and runway, although I was planning
on including as many of the command-line arguments as
I can. I started it because I' too lazy to keep typing
the arguments in, but I like to experiment. :-) I was
thinking that it could be extended to read .fgfsrc, or
a separate config file, to get a set of startup
defaults. I'll look into getting it hosted somewhere,
if anyone would like to take a look.

Are you familliar with fgrun:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fgrun
This is a C++ utility doing basically the same.
fgrun is great utility but have binaries only for Windows, for me was 
really easier to build my own in Java than to mess around with 
compilation in C++.My level in C++ is less than elementary.

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: fgfs 0.9.6 scenery instalation

2004-12-08 Thread Andrew Midosn
 --- Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 Are you familliar with fgrun:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/fgrun
 

I wasn't - I am now. :-) I'm not sure whether to be
pleased that someone has saved me the effort of
building my own version, or upset that I spent
valuable flying time on something I didn't need!
Thanks for the pointer.

Regards

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: fgfs 0.9.6 scenery instalation

2004-12-08 Thread Andrew Midosn
 --- Charalampos Alexopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 fgrun is great utility but have binaries only for
 Windows, for me was 
 really easier to build my own in Java than to mess
 around with 
 compilation in C++.My level in C++ is less than
 elementary.
 

The only real problem I had compiling it was that I
didn't have the fltk libraries installed. A quick
Google to find out what I needed to provide Fl.h and I
was away. It's a shame that there is no real
documentation for the project on SourceForge. In fact,
if Erik hadn't mentioned it here I would never have
realised it existed. It makes me wonder what other
useful projects are out there.

Regards

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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-08 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Wednesday, 8 December 2004 19:03, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote:
 On Thursday 14 October 2004 08:19, Chris Ridley wrote:
  Found a very interesting program at http://learn.arc.nasa.gov/worldwind

 I've been playing around with World Wind, and I think that it would be
 possible to use it as a moving map display for FlightGear (just like
 Atlas). I tried to averlay a few NDB symbols onto the globe, and it worked
 great. I guess I should make some kind of script to parse the files in
 navaid and convert to World Wind's xml format.

Sounds like a no-go to me unless you own a Micro$oft box.
DirectX 9b and the .NET Runtime environment are required which probably 
excludes a large portion of the FlightGear community.

Paul

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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-08 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Wednesday, 8 December 2004 21:10, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote:
 On Wednesday 08 December 2004 19:27, Paul Surgeon wrote:
  Sounds like a no-go to me unless you own a Micro$oft box.
  DirectX 9b and the .NET Runtime environment are required which probably
  excludes a large portion of the FlightGear community.

 You are right. But there are intentions to port this open source project to
 Linux and Mac. If I understood correctly the Mac port had a slightly higher
 priority.

Just out of interest has anyone ever done a poll to find out who uses what OS 
for FG?
It would be interesting and possibly useful info to see what OS's are the most 
popular for FG especially amongst the developer community.

Paul

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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:02:02 +0200, Paul wrote in message 
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 On Wednesday, 8 December 2004 21:10, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote:
  On Wednesday 08 December 2004 19:27, Paul Surgeon wrote:
   Sounds like a no-go to me unless you own a Micro$oft box.
   DirectX 9b and the .NET Runtime environment are required which
   probably excludes a large portion of the FlightGear community.
 
  You are right. But there are intentions to port this open source
  project to Linux and Mac. If I understood correctly the Mac port had
  a slightly higher priority.

..yes???  Both these ports require porting the DirectX9 to OpenGL, no?

 Just out of interest has anyone ever done a poll to find out who uses
 what OS for FG?

..Debian Sid Linux, 2.4.27 in openMosix clusters and 2.6.9 standalone.

 It would be interesting and possibly useful info to see what OS's are
 the most popular for FG especially amongst the developer community.

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-08 Thread Jonathan Polley
OK, I finally had enough free time to try and address the documentation 
issues.  Please give a look at the updated README.txt file and let me 
know what kind of luck people do, or do not, have.

http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/README.txt
The example script referenced in the document can be found here:
http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/run_fgfs
Thanks,
Jonathan Polley
On Dec 2, 2004, at 4:11 PM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote:
Why don't you send the command, exactly as you are writing it?
My FlightGear is in the folder /FlightGear-0.9.4, and it worked upon 
double-clicking the program.

(My humble opinion is that the explanations contained in the last five 
or six posts should be made available in the Readme file, at least for 
us poor command-line ignorants).

Al
On Dec 1, 2004, at 11:41 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 8:56 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 10:14 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Jim,
 That information you want is in the README.txt file that is a 
part of the FlightGear0.9.6 folder:
Obviously the readme doesn't have all the information I need to 
make FlightGear work.
I will make whatever changes are needed to provide clear 
instructions.

In order to use FlightGear under MacOS X 10.3, you must create a 
FlightGear resource file in your home directory.  A sample 
resource (FlightGear_Resource) file is provided.  Replace the 
string $HOME with your home directory.
Do I need to create a resource file or do I use the sample resource 
file? Is that what the instructions below do?

How do I Replace the string $HOME with your home directory. Is 
that the below instructions?
That line means what it says.  In the example FlightGear_Resource 
file, the first line says:

--fg-root=$HOME/FlightGear0.9.6/data
If you have put the FlightGear0.9.6 folder in your home directory, 
then the string $HOME becomes whatever the path to your home 
directory might be.  In my case, that line would change to become

--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/FlightGear0.9.6/data
OK, I figured this out and made the changes to the path. How specific 
does the path have to be? Do I need to identify exactly which folder 
FlightGear is in? After changing the string I still get the same 
error message when I double click on fgfs. I ran the 'ln -s' command 
again and it reports that the file exists.

I must be doing something wrong still.
This line tells FlightGear where it can find the data directory.
 From your home directory, type
ln -s FlightGear0.9.6/FlightGear_Resource .fgfsrc

The 'ln -s' command makes a symbolic link, called .fgfsrc, that 
points to the flightGear_Resource file.  This is needed because 
FlightGear expects to find a file, called .fgfsrc, in your home 
directory.  Making the symbolic link allows you to conveniently edit 
the resource file (using something like TextEdit).

Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 09:37PM, James Smeall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Dec 1, 2004, at 6:35 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Do you have the .fgfsrc file set up correctly?  It has to be in 
your
home directory (in my case, it us /Users/jwpolley).  The reason 
that I
have you set up a symbolic link is because MacOS will hide any 
file
that begins with a dot (.) in the Finder.  Also, make sure that 
you
have modified the FlightGear_Resource file to point to the 'data'
directory in your FlightGear0.9.6 folder.
I do not know if .fgfsrc is set up correctly because I don't know 
how
to check if it is set up correctly. How do I point
FlightGear_Resource to the 'data' directory. I rarely use 
terminal so
the example below is beyond my understanding.

I do thank you for your efforts to make FlightGear work for me.
In my case (my paths are different because I am pointing to my
development strucutre):
[lichebane:~] jwpolley% ls -al
total 211104
drwxr-xr-x  38 jwpolley  staff   1292 30 Nov 22:10 .
drwxrwxr-t   7 root  admin238 12 Sep  2003 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  3 18 Oct  2003
.CFUserTextEncoding
-rwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff  15364 30 Nov 22:07 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  0 17 Oct  2003 .MCXLC
drwx--   2 jwpolley  staff 68 30 Nov 23:49 .Trash
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff  0  1 Nov 21:45 
.Xauthority
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff 24 18 Oct  2003 .cshrc
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff317  2 May  2004 .cvspass
lrwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff 19 15 Jun 00:02 .fgfsrc -
FlightGear_Resource

[lichebane:~] jwpolley% more FlightGear_Resource
--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/fgdev/data
Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 07:56PM, James Smeall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Downloaded 0.9.6 and installed on my home directory. Followed
instructions in readme. FlightGear would not run.
Error message in terminal;
Base package check failed ... Found version {none} at:
/sw/share/FlightGear
Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6
What did I do wrong?


Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-08 Thread James Smeall
On Dec 8, 2004, at 7:20 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
OK, I finally had enough free time to try and address the 
documentation issues.  Please give a look at the updated README.txt 
file and let me know what kind of luck people do, or do not, have.

http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/README.txt
Thank you for doing this.
Still not able to make FlightGear do anything.
Is the batch file run_fgfs suppose to be already in FlightGear? or do 
I need to create it?

If I need to create it, how do I create it?
~~
-Jim
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Vaughn, WA, USA
20 iMac G5, 10.3.6
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-08 Thread Jonathan Polley
Jim,
 In order to make things easier, I am attaching the file (it is 
REALLY small), but you can download it from the link if you want.  If 
it works, I will include it in the future releases.  I really wish that 
I understood why some people have problems (it kinda has me banging my 
head against my desk).

 Be sure to make the file executable and change the $HOME with the 
proper path.

Jonathan Polley


run_fgfs
Description: Binary data

On Dec 8, 2004, at 11:47 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Dec 8, 2004, at 7:20 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
OK, I finally had enough free time to try and address the 
documentation issues.  Please give a look at the updated README.txt 
file and let me know what kind of luck people do, or do not, have.

http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/README.txt
Thank you for doing this.
Still not able to make FlightGear do anything.
Is the batch file run_fgfs suppose to be already in FlightGear? or 
do I need to create it?

If I need to create it, how do I create it?
~~
-Jim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vaughn, WA, USA
20 iMac G5, 10.3.6
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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-08 Thread Andrew Midosn
 --- Paul Surgeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Just out of interest has anyone ever done a poll to
 find out who uses what OS 
 for FG?
 It would be interesting and possibly useful info to
 see what OS's are the most 
 popular for FG especially amongst the developer
 community.
 

I'm not a developer (at least not for FlightGear), but
for what it's worth - Suse Linux 9.1.

Regards

Andrew





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