Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-09 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 21:02, Paul Surgeon wrote:
 Just out of interest has anyone ever done a poll to find out who uses what
 OS for FG?
 It would be interesting and possibly useful info to see what OS's are the
 most popular for FG especially amongst the developer community.

I use Suse Linux 9.1.
I used Cygwin earlier.

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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-09 Thread Erik Hofman
Paul Surgeon wrote:
Just out of interest has anyone ever done a poll to find out who uses what OS 
for FG?
It would be interesting and possibly useful info to see what OS's are the most 
popular for FG especially amongst the developer community.
IRIX for development and occasionally for flying.
(Xandros) Linux for occasional development and for flying.
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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-09 Thread Charalampos Alexopoulos
Paul Surgeon wrote:
Just out of interest has anyone ever done a poll to find out who uses what OS 
for FG?
It would be interesting and possibly useful info to see what OS's are the most 
popular for FG especially amongst the developer community.
 

I am using Suse 9.1
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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-09 Thread Lee Elliott
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 20:02, Paul Surgeon wrote:
[snip...]
 Just out of interest has anyone ever done a poll to find out
 who uses what OS for FG?
 It would be interesting and possibly useful info to see what
 OS's are the most popular for FG especially amongst the
 developer community.

 Paul

Debian unstable on all my systems.

LeeE

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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-09 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 09 December 2004 18:58, Lee Elliott wrote:
 On Wednesday 08 December 2004 20:02, Paul Surgeon wrote:
 [snip...]

  Just out of interest has anyone ever done a poll to find out
  who uses what OS for FG?
  It would be interesting and possibly useful info to see what
  OS's are the most popular for FG especially amongst the
  developer community.
 
  Paul

 Debian unstable on all my systems.

 LeeE

BTW, is everyone who posts to this list still getting spammed by 
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I am and it's a real pita.

Any chance of removing this 'user' until they start behaving in a 
more considerate manner?

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Tower in the middle of the runway

2004-12-09 Thread David Luff


On 12/9/04 at 5:56 PM Stephen wrote:

Hi 

At KGMU there is a tower in the middle of the runway in the 0.9.7 
scenery. I'm using Debian linux with a CVS version from after the 0.9.6 
release. Should I use some virtual dynamite :-) or is there another way 
to get rid of it?  


That's a beacon.  Where you untarred the scenery, go into the
w090n30/w083n34 directory and find the .stg file that contains the line
OBJECT KGMU.btg.  Find the line below that that says OBJECT_SHARED
Models/Airport/beacon.xml .. ... .. ... and change the lat and lon
slightly to move it.

Alternatively you can use TaxiDraw to move it - unzip the airport data from
the data/Airports directory and set TaxiDraw to look for it under
Airport-raw data options (set the type to 'FlightGear'), drag the beacon,
and use File-Export Beacons to FlightGear.  That should work...

Cheers - Dave


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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-09 Thread Erik Hofman
Lee Elliott wrote:
BTW, is everyone who posts to this list still getting spammed by 
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I am and it's a real pita.
I don't see that anymore?
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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-09 Thread Dave Martin
Fedora Core 2 here but with a vanilla 2.6.9 kernel which has actually boosted 
performance by a fair chunk.


On Wednesday 08 Dec 2004 20:02, Paul Surgeon wrote:
 On Wednesday, 8 December 2004 21:10, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote:
  On Wednesday 08 December 2004 19:27, Paul Surgeon wrote:
   Sounds like a no-go to me unless you own a Micro$oft box.
   DirectX 9b and the .NET Runtime environment are required which probably
   excludes a large portion of the FlightGear community.
 
  You are right. But there are intentions to port this open source project
  to Linux and Mac. If I understood correctly the Mac port had a slightly
  higher priority.

 Just out of interest has anyone ever done a poll to find out who uses what
 OS for FG?
 It would be interesting and possibly useful info to see what OS's are the
 most popular for FG especially amongst the developer community.

 Paul

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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-09 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Thursday 09 December 2004 20:19, Lee Elliott wrote:
 BTW, is everyone who posts to this list still getting spammed by
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 I am and it's a real pita.

Yes, me too!

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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-09 Thread Chris Metzler
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:19:21 +
Lee Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 BTW, is everyone who posts to this list still getting spammed by 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I am and it's a real pita.

Yes, I'm getting them, and yes, it's annoying.  I keep meaning to just
blacklist the sender.  But it's absurd that someone would so carelessly
set up a challenge-response system (c-r systems awful in general anyway,
but that's a different conversation).

-c

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[Flightgear-users] Slow frame rate on Dell 2GB RAM, 3.06 GHz, Windows OS

2004-12-09 Thread Mr Michael Rawlins

Just downloaded the Windows binary and installed on C:
drive of a fancy Dell PC w/ 2 GB RAM, 3.06 GHz
processor running Windows.  I could run faster than
the Cessna flies, looks like frame rate is about 1 per
second.  I plan to give a cdrom w/ the binary to a
friend that want to fly FG. I've been having fun
flying with great performance with CVS versions on my
Linux box (FC2).

The Windows machine has an NVIDA QUADRO FX 1000 video
card.  One of the guys in our lab thought that the
machine (by default) might not be allocating all RAM
for the FG run.

Any suggestions?  Should I post to developers group?

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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Chris Metzler wrote:
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:19:21 +
Lee Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

BTW, is everyone who posts to this list still getting spammed by 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am and it's a real pita.
   

Yes, I'm getting them, and yes, it's annoying.  I keep meaning to just
blacklist the sender.  But it's absurd that someone would so carelessly
set up a challenge-response system (c-r systems awful in general anyway,
but that's a different conversation).
 

What lists is this happening on.  I did send a note to this user a month 
or so ago, and thought the issue was resolved.  Have these replies 
started up again, or is it only certain lists where it is happening?  I 
think I accidentally clicked on the link in one of his replies and 
registered myself so I no longer see these from my own mail.  I almost 
wish I hadn't because I can't exactly take it back now.

Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-09 Thread Jon Stockill
Lee Elliott wrote:
Debian unstable on all my systems.
Slackware 10.0 here (as you'd probably guessed by the slackware packages 
I keep producing).

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Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind

2004-12-09 Thread Jon Stockill
Curtis L. Olson wrote:
What lists is this happening on.  I did send a note to this user a month 
or so ago, and thought the issue was resolved.  Have these replies 
started up again, or is it only certain lists where it is happening?  I 
think I accidentally clicked on the link in one of his replies and 
registered myself so I no longer see these from my own mail.  I almost 
wish I hadn't because I can't exactly take it back now.
Still getting it here:
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Re: [Flightgear-users] Slow frame rate on Dell 2GB RAM, 3.06 GHz, Windows OS

2004-12-09 Thread Gorilla
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:17:16 -0800 (PST), Mr Michael Rawlins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Just downloaded the Windows binary and installed on C:
 drive of a fancy Dell PC w/ 2 GB RAM, 3.06 GHz
 processor running Windows.  I could run faster than
 the Cessna flies, looks like frame rate is about 1 per
 second.  I plan to give a cdrom w/ the binary to a
 friend that want to fly FG. I've been having fun
 flying with great performance with CVS versions on my
 Linux box (FC2).
 
 The Windows machine has an NVIDA QUADRO FX 1000 video
 card.  One of the guys in our lab thought that the
 machine (by default) might not be allocating all RAM
 for the FG run.

Micheal, 

Sounds like a driver problem. :-)

Have you installed the nvidia drivers or are you using the generic
drivers from microsoft??

George

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-09 Thread James Smeall
On Dec 8, 2004, at 9:53 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Jim,
 In order to make things easier, I am attaching the file (it is 
REALLY small), but you can download it from the link if you want.  If 
it works, I will include it in the future releases.  I really wish 
that I understood why some people have problems (it kinda has me 
banging my head against my desk).

 Be sure to make the file executable and change the $HOME with the 
proper path.

Jonathan Polley
run_fgfs
On Dec 8, 2004, at 11:47 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Dec 8, 2004, at 7:20 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
OK, I finally had enough free time to try and address the 
documentation issues.  Please give a look at the updated README.txt 
file and let me know what kind of luck people do, or do not, have.

http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/README.txt
Thank you for doing this.
Still not able to make FlightGear do anything.
Is the batch file run_fgfs suppose to be already in FlightGear? or 
do I need to create it?

If I need to create it, how do I create it?

Jonathan,
Don't feel bad if I can't figure this stuff out. You should be 
commended for tolerating my lack of knowledge.

I put the attached file (run_fgfs) into my FlightGear0.9.6 folder and 
edited it to replace $HOME with the path to FlightGear. I then opened 
Terminal and entered the commands per the readme. I saved the output 
from Terminal:

Last login: Thu Dec  9 18:15:55 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
James-Smealls-Computer:~ Jim$ cd FlightGear0.9.6
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$ chmod +x run_fgfs
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$ ./run_fgfs
./run_fgfs: line 1: Users/Jim/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or 
directory
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$

I tried this a couple of times and always got the same result. The file 
fgfs does exist in the FlightGear folder. I always assume I have done 
something wrong due to the fact that while I have used macs for years I 
know almost nothing about Unix.

Would deleting everything and starting over help?
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[Flightgear-users] Few Queries about FlightGear Execution

2004-12-09 Thread senthil kumar
Hai,
 I have few doubts about OpenGL used in Flightgear-0.9.4. When I look into the code, I came to know that glutMainLoop is the event handler, which activate all OpenGL functions.
 I think only glutIdleFunc is called repeatedly and other events (Keyboard, Mouse, Motion) are activated in case of interrupt. Am I correct??

 Can you please give me the flow of control, after glutMainLoop is executed?

 I have already asked about the time delay in fgMainLoop but I didn't get any reply..

My Previous Mail

 1.I have a doubt in program execution (FlightGear-0.9.4). When I look into the code I have seen that glutIdleFunction is called repeatedly and fgMainLoop is called from the glutIdleFunction. Now I have displayed the elapsed time from the fgMainLoop. The elapsed time displayed varies... It shows 15 ms for 5 cycles and 0 ms for a cycle and this continues (15 ms for 5 cycle and 0 ms for a cycle).

 Why it happens???

Note: I didnt use Keyboard interrupt or Mouse click or Mouse motion during this time calculation

 2.I have used Yasim-fdm for the J22-flight and I have printed the value of lat, lon and alt. Now my aircraft is in starting position in airport KSFO, I have pressed 'b' and '5' for break and Center aileron/elevator/rudder. When I look into the values printed in cygwin, the value of alt gradually increases... lat and lon remains same.

 What's the reason?

In Yasim.cxx line 350_set_Geodetic_Position(lat, lon, alt*M2FT);printf("\n lat : %f lon : %f alt : %f",lat,lon,alt*M2FT);
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-09 Thread Francis X. Maier
Jonathan and Jim,
Thanks for this discussion.  I'm in the same boat and followed this 
thread avidly.  I'm going to apply this tomorrow.  Grateful for the 
question and the patient response.

Fran
On Dec 9, 2004, at 8:17 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Jim,
 Since I am use to working in UNIX, it takes me a while as well as 
well.  From your log, I am guessing that you are missing a leading 
slash from the first line in the file.  My guess is that it looks like 
this:

Users/Jim/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs ...
and it should be this:
/Users/Jim/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs ...
Let me know if it works.
Jonathan Polley
On Dec 9, 2004, at 8:38 PM, James Smeall wrote:
Jonathan,
Don't feel bad if I can't figure this stuff out. You should be 
commended for tolerating my lack of knowledge.

I put the attached file (run_fgfs) into my FlightGear0.9.6 folder and 
edited it to replace $HOME with the path to FlightGear. I then opened 
Terminal and entered the commands per the readme. I saved the output 
from Terminal:

Last login: Thu Dec  9 18:15:55 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
James-Smealls-Computer:~ Jim$ cd FlightGear0.9.6
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$ chmod +x run_fgfs
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$ ./run_fgfs
./run_fgfs: line 1: Users/Jim/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or 
directory
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$

I tried this a couple of times and always got the same result. The 
file fgfs does exist in the FlightGear folder. I always assume I 
have done something wrong due to the fact that while I have used macs 
for years I know almost nothing about Unix.

Would deleting everything and starting over help?
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-09 Thread James Smeall
On Dec 9, 2004, at 7:17 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Jim,
 Since I am use to working in UNIX, it takes me a while as well as 
well.  From your log, I am guessing that you are missing a leading 
slash from the first line in the file.  My guess is that it looks like 
this:

Users/Jim/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs ...
and it should be this:
/Users/Jim/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs ...
Let me know if it works.
Jonathan Polley
On Dec 9, 2004, at 8:38 PM, James Smeall wrote:
Jonathan,
Don't feel bad if I can't figure this stuff out. You should be 
commended for tolerating my lack of knowledge.

I put the attached file (run_fgfs) into my FlightGear0.9.6 folder and 
edited it to replace $HOME with the path to FlightGear. I then opened 
Terminal and entered the commands per the readme. I saved the output 
from Terminal:

Last login: Thu Dec  9 18:15:55 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
James-Smealls-Computer:~ Jim$ cd FlightGear0.9.6
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$ chmod +x run_fgfs
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$ ./run_fgfs
./run_fgfs: line 1: Users/Jim/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or 
directory
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$

I tried this a couple of times and always got the same result. The 
file fgfs does exist in the FlightGear folder. I always assume I 
have done something wrong due to the fact that while I have used macs 
for years I know almost nothing about Unix.

Would deleting everything and starting over help?
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-09 Thread Jonathan Polley
Jim,
 That's good to haer.  Please give me any comments on the README 
and/or run_fgfs files so that I can try to minimize installation 
problems.

Thanks,
Jonathan Polley
On Dec 9, 2004, at 10:27 PM, James Smeall wrote:
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