RE: [Flightgear-users] Rotating the Display

2005-02-23 Thread Richard Bytheway
If you are using a nVidia card on Windows, then the latest drivers support 
rotation of the screen at the driver level. The Linux driver may also do this, 
and I would hope that ATI would provide similar functionality.

Richard

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 Hi All,
 
 Is there a way to rotate the display 90 degrees?  My 
 monitor projects an
 image 90.  I've played with 
 /sim/current-view/roll-offset-deg.  It does rotate
 the display, but something isn't quite right.  All is OK if 
 the plane is
 sitting still, but once you start to move, the view changes.
 
 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated,
 
 Eric
 
 


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Re: [Flightgear-users] Rotating the Display

2005-02-23 Thread Eric F Sorton
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 08:43:45AM -, Richard Bytheway wrote:
 If you are using a nVidia card on Windows, then the latest drivers support
 rotation of the screen at the driver level. The Linux driver may also do
 this, and I would hope that ATI would provide similar functionality.

I am using nVidia under Linux.  I do believe that the nVidia drivers under
Linux allow you to rotate the display, however, my past research showed that
hardware acceleration is disabled after the rotation.  This makes it useless
for FlightGear.  I am not sure if the same issue exists under Windows.  If
anyone is rotating the display under Linux through the nVidia drivers with
hardware acceleration, I'd love to hear how they do it.

Thanks for the info,

Eric

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Rotating the Display

2005-02-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:43:45 -, Richard wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric F
  Sorton
  Sent: 23 February 2005 03:44
  To: flightgear-users@flightgear.org
  Subject: [Flightgear-users] Rotating the Display
  
  
  Hi All,
  
  Is there a way to rotate the display 90 degrees?  My monitor
  projects an image 90.  I've played with
  /sim/current-view/roll-offset-deg.  It does rotate the display, but
  something isn't quite right.  All is OK if  the plane is sitting
  still, but once you start to move, the view changes.
 
 If you are using a nVidia card on Windows, then the latest drivers
 support rotation of the screen at the driver level. The Linux driver
 may also do this, and I would hope that ATI would provide similar
 functionality.

..this has been supported natiively for years in X11R6 (XFree86,
X.org etc ) for at least all Linux distros (and I guess all Unix too) 
I'm aware of, chk out Option Rotate string in ' man fbdev ' for
details.

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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Re: [Flightgear-users] Rotating the Display

2005-02-23 Thread Eric F Sorton
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 03:12:12PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 ..this has been supported natiively for years in X11R6 (XFree86,
 X.org etc ) for at least all Linux distros (and I guess all Unix too) 
 I'm aware of, chk out Option Rotate string in ' man fbdev ' for
 details.

A quick search on Google turned up the following link:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_readme_install.html

[...]
(app-d) APPENDIX D: XF86Config OPTIONS
[...]
Option Rotate CW
Option Rotate CCW
Rotate the display clockwise or counterclockwise.  This mode
forces NoAccel and SWCursor to both be TRUE.  Default: no
rotation.
[...]

The date at the top is May 14, 2001; a bit old.  I checked the latest README
installed with 6111 (the latest version I have handy), and it does not mention
the rotate option.  Can anyone confirm or deny that the hardware acceleration
under NVIDIA works with the hardware acceleration option?

I'd prefer to find a solution that does not involve mucking with the X config
if possible.

Any other suggestions are appreciated,

Eric

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Rotating the Display

2005-02-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:58:17 -0500, Eric wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 08:43:45AM -, Richard Bytheway wrote:
  If you are using a nVidia card on Windows, then the latest drivers
  support rotation of the screen at the driver level. The Linux driver
  may also do this, and I would hope that ATI would provide similar
  functionality.
 
 I am using nVidia under Linux.  I do believe that the nVidia drivers
 under Linux allow you to rotate the display, however, my past research
 showed that hardware acceleration is disabled after the rotation.  

..huh?  Did you try: ' Option Rotate CW ' or 
somesuch in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ?

..toss in the above and restart X to tilt X 90 degress CW, then:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/FG $ glxinfo |grep direct rendering
direct rendering: Yes

..Nvidea uses their own closed source accelleration scheme.

 This makes it useless for FlightGear.  I am not sure if the same issue
 exists under Windows.
  If anyone is rotating the display under Linux through the nVidia
  drivers
 with hardware acceleration, I'd love to hear how they do it.
 
 Thanks for the info,
 
 Eric
 


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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.


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Re: [Flightgear-users] Rotating the Display

2005-02-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:54:37 -0500, Eric wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 03:12:12PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
  ..this has been supported natiively for years in X11R6 (XFree86,
  X.org etc ) for at least all Linux distros (and I guess all Unix
  too)  I'm aware of, chk out Option Rotate string in ' man fbdev
  ' for details.
 
 A quick search on Google turned up the following link:
 
   http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_readme_install.html
 
   [...]
   (app-d) APPENDIX D: XF86Config OPTIONS
   [...]
   Option Rotate CW
   Option Rotate CCW
   Rotate the display clockwise or counterclockwise.  This mode
   forces NoAccel and SWCursor to both be TRUE.  Default: no
   rotation.
   [...]
 
 The date at the top is May 14, 2001; a bit old.  I checked the latest
 README installed with 6111 (the latest version I have handy), and it
 does not mention the rotate option.  Can anyone confirm or deny that
 the hardware acceleration under NVIDIA works with the hardware
 acceleration option?

..sorry, no, I use an ATI 9250 on DRI code, so you'll have to paste 
that in and restart X to try it, it might work now, even if it didn't in
2001.

 I'd prefer to find a solution that does not involve mucking with the X
 config if possible.

..back it up and try.  No mercy there.  ;o)

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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Re: [Flightgear-users] Rotating the Display

2005-02-23 Thread aurelien
  I'd prefer to find a solution that does not involve mucking with the X
  config if possible.
 
 ..back it up and try.  No mercy there.  ;o)
 

I fear not grub, I fear not parted,
a kernel panic just slows the day,
I fear not segfaults nor dependency hell,
but cautiously I tread
lest I touch my X-config.

;)

- aurelien.

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[Flightgear-users] starting flightgear

2005-02-23 Thread Frederick Gleicher
flightgear 0.9.8
I have it compiled and configured to find the data dir.  Now I have this 
problem:
I start it in a console with fgfs, and it crashes the Xserver, then, after 
logging back in and fgfs in a console again, it pops up the splash screen, 
and after a few seconds I get an error message on the console which reads:
open /dev/[sound/]dsp: Device or resource busy
then it just hangs there and does nothing.
My sound works, except this doesnt
any ideas ?
TIA
Fred Gleicher

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Re: [Flightgear-users] P-51D DATCOM model for JSBSim

2005-02-23 Thread Gorilla
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:43:36 -0500, Bill Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The current model of the P-51D in FlightGear is a YASIM model, but if anyone
 is interested in making this a JSBSim model, we have a start.

Snip
 
 You will find the updated version of DATCOM+ (including the P-51D model) on
 my web page, at www.holwycows.net/datcom, or just download the

That should be www.holycows.net/datcom :-)

snip


George Patterson

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[Flightgear-users] Mandrake 10.1 build

2005-02-23 Thread Dave Culp
Has anyone out there done a build of SimGear in Mandrake 10.1?My Mandrake 
system is almost nearly out of the box, and I've succesfully compiled the 
mm3d CAD application, as well as openal and plib, but I get this with SimGear 
( both 0.3.8 and CVS ):

gcc  -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT  -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o tabbed_value_test  
tabbed_values_test.o ../../simgear/misc/libsgmisc.a 
../../simgear/xml/libsgxml.a ../../simgear/debug/libsgdebug.a
tabbed_values_test.o(.text+0x35): In function `main':
/usr/lib/gcc/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.4.1/../../../../include/c++/3.4.1/bits/basic_string.h:2115:
 
undefined reference to `std::basic_stringchar, std::char_traitschar, 
std::allocatorchar ::compare(char const*) const'

...  and lots more


Any Ideas?  Am I missing a library, or have a bad symlink?

Dave

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