Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
This is the path I am using, and the results are the same. I think the use of / is right here or am I wrong? Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: /sw/share/FlightGear Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:20 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I know little about the mac, but I can tell right away that the file path you have is wrong: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs If you've only ever dealt with clickable folders, the concept of file paths might be a bit foreign, but absolute paths (and I think you want absolute, not relative) need to start with a /. It sounds to me like the current mac version requires unix experience to have a chance at running it. I suspect most Mac people have never popped the hood on OSX (and the hood wasn't really poppable on previous versions anyway) so they don't know what to do when the instructions say edit such and such a file and replace blah-blah-blah with the path to your home directory. Essentially we are asking them to pop the hood and rewire their car's engine to get fgfs working. We probably need some sort of better packaging for Mac if we want to get anywhere there. (This stuff of course really isn't all that hard, but for someone with absolutely zero unix experience, you really have to spell out every keystroke in order.) Regards, Curt. Francis X. Maier wrote: I don't think so; I've doublechecked my permissions. Fran On Dec 11, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Chris Tulloch wrote: This reminds me of file permissions problem... Chris Tulloch On Saturday 11 December 2004 12:30 pm, Francis X. Maier wrote: Last login: Sat Dec 11 10:21:44 on ttyp2 Welcome to Darwin! Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ cd /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6 Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ls FlightGear_Resource data OpenAL_Installer_OSX.dmgfgfs README.txt run_fgfs Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ./run_fgfs ./run_fgfs: line 1: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or directory Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ Doesn't make any sense. Any ideas what you did differently? Again, sorry to bother you, but this is bedeviling me, and the program looks great. Fran Fran, ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
That is precisely what puzzles me. The DATA folder is in the same directory where fgfs is. And it contains all that you mention, ie: textures, models, scenery, aircraft, sounds, ... ?? Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:46 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: This is the path I am using, and the results are the same. I think the use of / is right here or am I wrong? Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: /sw/share/FlightGear Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout Again, I know little about the Mac or the Mac fgfs port, but this means you have the path to your fgfs binary correct, but look at the error message: Found version [none] at: /sw/share/FlightGear This means by default fgfs is looking for the FG data tree in /sw/share/FlightGear. This error means that FG can't find it's data files (all it's textures, models, scenery, aircraft, sounds, config files, data files, etc. etc.) You need to: 1) Make sure the fgfs data (often called base package) is installed on your system. 2) Tell fgfs where to find it. 2a) you could either install it in the place the binary is looking for. 2b) you could install it someplace else and make /sw/share/FlightGear a symbolic link to the actual location. 2c) you could set your $FG_ROOT environment variable to point to the actual location. 2d) you could run fgfs with the --fg-root=/some/path/to/the/fgfs/data command line option. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
Isn't this a valid path? [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:12 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Francis X. Maier wrote: Curt, But that doesn't explain this response: Last login: Sun Dec 12 08:58:04 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/data Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout [Process completed] I __DO__ have a version file in my data folder in exactly the place it appears to be looking. It contains only one line: 0.9.6. But $/Users/franx2/FlightGear-0.9.6/data is not a valid path. Paths should never start with $ (unless you are mixing in variables which you aren't trying to do here.) You need to fix the path (probably in your script based on how I gather the mac version is setup.) Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
I found it with Find. It is in my home directory (alfonsol) [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs Al On Dec 13, 2004, at 12:02 AM, Francis X. Maier wrote: Al, You should have your invisible .fgfsrc file __not__ in your FlightGear0.9.6 folder, but outside it in your home directory. You might check that. You can download the freeware TinkerTool program that will reveal that for you. Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:50 PM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: There, in my home directory, is where I have it too. But to no avail so far. Another stupid question (Mac): when I was using version 0.9.4 there was a file called fgfs (info. describes it as Unix executable file) AND another called FlightGear (described as Application) both in the same FlightGear folder. The download of 0.9.6 doesn't have the application. Only the fgfs executable. Did I get only an incomplete download? I ask this because Jonathan sent me the following: The flight gear application is called fgfs. There is no script called run_fgfs in that directory (yet). Jonathan Polley Thanks for your patience, Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 11:07 AM, James Smeall wrote: I moved the FlightGear folder into my home directory, ie when I click on the house in the dock that is where FlightGear is. Not in the applications folder. I know almost nothing about Unix but I followed Jonathan's instructions and I got it to work. Perhaps the location and the path is the key? ~~ -Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vaughn, WA, USA 20 iMac G5, 10.3.6___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
I have repaired mine, at least three times to no avail. Al On Dec 11, 2004, at 5:41 PM, Chris Tulloch wrote: This reminds me of file permissions problem... Chris Tulloch On Saturday 11 December 2004 12:30 pm, Francis X. Maier wrote: Last login: Sat Dec 11 10:21:44 on ttyp2 Welcome to Darwin! Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ cd /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6 Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ls FlightGear_Resource data OpenAL_Installer_OSX.dmgfgfs README.txt run_fgfs Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ./run_fgfs ./run_fgfs: line 1: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or directory Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ Doesn't make any sense. Any ideas what you did differently? Again, sorry to bother you, but this is bedeviling me, and the program looks great. Fran Fran, ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
There, in my home directory, is where I have it too. But to no avail so far. Another stupid question (Mac): when I was using version 0.9.4 there was a file called fgfs (info. describes it as Unix executable file) AND another called FlightGear (described as Application) both in the same FlightGear folder. The download of 0.9.6 doesn't have the application. Only the fgfs executable. Did I get only an incomplete download? I ask this because Jonathan sent me the following: The flight gear application is called fgfs. There is no script called run_fgfs in that directory (yet). Jonathan Polley Thanks for your patience, Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 11:07 AM, James Smeall wrote: I moved the FlightGear folder into my home directory, ie when I click on the house in the dock that is where FlightGear is. Not in the applications folder. I know almost nothing about Unix but I followed Jonathan's instructions and I got it to work. Perhaps the location and the path is the key? ~~ -Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vaughn, WA, USA 20 iMac G5, 10.3.6 ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?
I went to that URL and downloaded v 0.9.6 but after expanding it, there is NO FlightGear application (all other files are there, though). Any takes? Al On Dec 1, 2004, at 7:54 PM, James Smeall wrote: On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:25 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote: I have just finished building a version of 0.9.6 and it can be found here: http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/FlightGear0.9.6.tgz Be sure to read the README.txt file that is in the FlightGear0.9.6 directory. It is set up for using the UFO FDM, so controlling the aircraft should be quite simple. Jonathan Polleyx ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?
Thanks for your response. This is what I get when double clicking on fgfs: Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: /sw/share/FlightGear Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout [Process completed] ?? Al On Dec 11, 2004, at 9:16 AM, Jonathan Polley wrote: Al, The flight gear application is called fgfs. There is no script called run_fgfs in that directory (yet). Jonathan Polley On Dec 11, 2004, at 8:51 AM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: I went to that URL and downloaded v 0.9.6 but after expanding it, there is NO FlightGear application (all other files are there, though). Any takes? Al On Dec 1, 2004, at 7:54 PM, James Smeall wrote: On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:25 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote: I have just finished building a version of 0.9.6 and it can be found here: http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/FlightGear0.9.6.tgz Be sure to read the README.txt file that is in the FlightGear0.9.6 directory. It is set up for using the UFO FDM, so controlling the aircraft should be quite simple. Jonathan Polleyx ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] NASA Worldwind
OSX 10.3.6 here. Al On Dec 10, 2004, at 12:16 AM, Jorge Van Hemelryck wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:02:02 +0200 Paul Surgeon wrote: Just out of interest has anyone ever done a poll to find out who uses what OS for FG? It would be interesting and possibly useful info to see what OS's are the most popular for FG especially amongst the developer community. Mandrake Linux 10.0 at home. At work, it's been tested on Windows 2000, but might be used on a Mandrake Linux as well. -- Jorge Van Hemelryck ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?
Why don't you send the command, exactly as you are writing it?
My FlightGear is in the folder /FlightGear-0.9.4, and it worked upon
double-clicking the program.
(My humble opinion is that the explanations contained in the last five
or six posts should be made available in the Readme file, at least for
us poor command-line ignorants).
Al
On Dec 1, 2004, at 11:41 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 8:56 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 10:14 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Jim,
That information you want is in the README.txt file that is a
part of the FlightGear0.9.6 folder:
Obviously the readme doesn't have all the information I need to make
FlightGear work.
I will make whatever changes are needed to provide clear instructions.
In order to use FlightGear under MacOS X 10.3, you must create a
FlightGear resource file in your home directory. A sample resource
(FlightGear_Resource) file is provided. Replace the string $HOME
with your home directory.
Do I need to create a resource file or do I use the sample resource
file? Is that what the instructions below do?
How do I Replace the string $HOME with your home directory. Is
that the below instructions?
That line means what it says. In the example FlightGear_Resource
file, the first line says:
--fg-root=$HOME/FlightGear0.9.6/data
If you have put the FlightGear0.9.6 folder in your home directory,
then the string $HOME becomes whatever the path to your home
directory might be. In my case, that line would change to become
--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/FlightGear0.9.6/data
OK, I figured this out and made the changes to the path. How specific
does the path have to be? Do I need to identify exactly which folder
FlightGear is in? After changing the string I still get the same error
message when I double click on fgfs. I ran the 'ln -s' command again
and it reports that the file exists.
I must be doing something wrong still.
This line tells FlightGear where it can find the data directory.
From your home directory, type
ln -s FlightGear0.9.6/FlightGear_Resource .fgfsrc
The 'ln -s' command makes a symbolic link, called .fgfsrc, that
points to the flightGear_Resource file. This is needed because
FlightGear expects to find a file, called .fgfsrc, in your home
directory. Making the symbolic link allows you to conveniently edit
the resource file (using something like TextEdit).
Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 09:37PM, James Smeall
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On Dec 1, 2004, at 6:35 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Do you have the .fgfsrc file set up correctly? It has to be in
your
home directory (in my case, it us /Users/jwpolley). The reason
that I
have you set up a symbolic link is because MacOS will hide any
file
that begins with a dot (.) in the Finder. Also, make sure that
you
have modified the FlightGear_Resource file to point to the 'data'
directory in your FlightGear0.9.6 folder.
I do not know if .fgfsrc is set up correctly because I don't know
how
to check if it is set up correctly. How do I point
FlightGear_Resource to the 'data' directory. I rarely use terminal
so
the example below is beyond my understanding.
I do thank you for your efforts to make FlightGear work for me.
In my case (my paths are different because I am pointing to my
development strucutre):
[lichebane:~] jwpolley% ls -al
total 211104
drwxr-xr-x 38 jwpolley staff 1292 30 Nov 22:10 .
drwxrwxr-t 7 root admin238 12 Sep 2003 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 jwpolley staff 3 18 Oct 2003
.CFUserTextEncoding
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jwpolley staff 15364 30 Nov 22:07 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r-- 1 jwpolley staff 0 17 Oct 2003 .MCXLC
drwx-- 2 jwpolley staff 68 30 Nov 23:49 .Trash
-rw--- 1 jwpolley staff 0 1 Nov 21:45 .Xauthority
-rw-r--r-- 1 jwpolley staff 24 18 Oct 2003 .cshrc
-rw--- 1 jwpolley staff317 2 May 2004 .cvspass
lrwxr-xr-x 1 jwpolley staff 19 15 Jun 00:02 .fgfsrc -
FlightGear_Resource
[lichebane:~] jwpolley% more FlightGear_Resource
--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/fgdev/data
Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 07:56PM, James Smeall
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Downloaded 0.9.6 and installed on my home directory. Followed
instructions in readme. FlightGear would not run.
Error message in terminal;
Base package check failed ... Found version {none} at:
/sw/share/FlightGear
Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6
What did I do wrong?
-Jim
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Vaughn, WA, USA
20 iMac G5, 10.3.6
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?
Thanks for your response. Are these commands to be written to the terminal? or somwhere else that I don't know? Thanks in advance for your help. Alfonso Lebron-Berges On Nov 27, 2004, at 9:35 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote: To start things off, use the UFO flight dynamics model (command line argument --fdm=ufo). That will make sure that you have everything going. In the UFO FDM, the cursor keys are control pitch and roll. Page Up/Page Down is the throttle. Jonathan Polley p.s., I can upload a current version of 0.9.6, if you are interested. On Saturday, November 27, 2004, at 08:24PM, James Smeall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have read the readme and installed OpenAL. The terminal commands are confusing and I can't get FlightGear to work. I have downloaded FlightGear 0.9.5 from Jonathan Polley but still don't understand what I need to do to make this work. Jim G5 iMac, 10.3.6 ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d Of COURSE they can do that. They're engineers! ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] MacOS 10.3 version of FlightGear 0.9.5 Ready for
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