Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
This reminds me of file permissions problem... Chris Tulloch On Saturday 11 December 2004 12:30 pm, Francis X. Maier wrote: Last login: Sat Dec 11 10:21:44 on ttyp2 Welcome to Darwin! Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ cd /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6 Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ls FlightGear_Resource data OpenAL_Installer_OSX.dmgfgfs README.txt run_fgfs Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ./run_fgfs ./run_fgfs: line 1: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or directory Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ Doesn't make any sense. Any ideas what you did differently? Again, sorry to bother you, but this is bedeviling me, and the program looks great. Fran Fran, ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
I don't think so; I've doublechecked my permissions. Fran On Dec 11, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Chris Tulloch wrote: This reminds me of file permissions problem... Chris Tulloch On Saturday 11 December 2004 12:30 pm, Francis X. Maier wrote: Last login: Sat Dec 11 10:21:44 on ttyp2 Welcome to Darwin! Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ cd /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6 Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ls FlightGear_Resource data OpenAL_Installer_OSX.dmgfgfs README.txt run_fgfs Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ./run_fgfs ./run_fgfs: line 1: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or directory Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ Doesn't make any sense. Any ideas what you did differently? Again, sorry to bother you, but this is bedeviling me, and the program looks great. Fran Fran, ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
I know little about the mac, but I can tell right away that the file path you have is wrong: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs If you've only ever dealt with clickable folders, the concept of file paths might be a bit foreign, but absolute paths (and I think you want absolute, not relative) need to start with a /. It sounds to me like the current mac version requires unix experience to have a chance at running it. I suspect most Mac people have never popped the hood on OSX (and the hood wasn't really poppable on previous versions anyway) so they don't know what to do when the instructions say edit such and such a file and replace blah-blah-blah with the path to your home directory. Essentially we are asking them to pop the hood and rewire their car's engine to get fgfs working. We probably need some sort of better packaging for Mac if we want to get anywhere there. (This stuff of course really isn't all that hard, but for someone with absolutely zero unix experience, you really have to spell out every keystroke in order.) Regards, Curt. Francis X. Maier wrote: I don't think so; I've doublechecked my permissions. Fran On Dec 11, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Chris Tulloch wrote: This reminds me of file permissions problem... Chris Tulloch On Saturday 11 December 2004 12:30 pm, Francis X. Maier wrote: Last login: Sat Dec 11 10:21:44 on ttyp2 Welcome to Darwin! Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ cd /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6 Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ls FlightGear_Resource data OpenAL_Installer_OSX.dmgfgfs README.txt run_fgfs Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ./run_fgfs ./run_fgfs: line 1: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or directory Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ Doesn't make any sense. Any ideas what you did differently? Again, sorry to bother you, but this is bedeviling me, and the program looks great. Fran Fran, ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
This is the path I am using, and the results are the same. I think the use of / is right here or am I wrong? Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: /sw/share/FlightGear Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:20 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I know little about the mac, but I can tell right away that the file path you have is wrong: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs If you've only ever dealt with clickable folders, the concept of file paths might be a bit foreign, but absolute paths (and I think you want absolute, not relative) need to start with a /. It sounds to me like the current mac version requires unix experience to have a chance at running it. I suspect most Mac people have never popped the hood on OSX (and the hood wasn't really poppable on previous versions anyway) so they don't know what to do when the instructions say edit such and such a file and replace blah-blah-blah with the path to your home directory. Essentially we are asking them to pop the hood and rewire their car's engine to get fgfs working. We probably need some sort of better packaging for Mac if we want to get anywhere there. (This stuff of course really isn't all that hard, but for someone with absolutely zero unix experience, you really have to spell out every keystroke in order.) Regards, Curt. Francis X. Maier wrote: I don't think so; I've doublechecked my permissions. Fran On Dec 11, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Chris Tulloch wrote: This reminds me of file permissions problem... Chris Tulloch On Saturday 11 December 2004 12:30 pm, Francis X. Maier wrote: Last login: Sat Dec 11 10:21:44 on ttyp2 Welcome to Darwin! Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ cd /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6 Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ls FlightGear_Resource data OpenAL_Installer_OSX.dmgfgfs README.txt run_fgfs Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ./run_fgfs ./run_fgfs: line 1: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or directory Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ Doesn't make any sense. Any ideas what you did differently? Again, sorry to bother you, but this is bedeviling me, and the program looks great. Fran Fran, ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: This is the path I am using, and the results are the same. I think the use of / is right here or am I wrong? Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: /sw/share/FlightGear Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout Again, I know little about the Mac or the Mac fgfs port, but this means you have the path to your fgfs binary correct, but look at the error message: Found version [none] at: /sw/share/FlightGear This means by default fgfs is looking for the FG data tree in /sw/share/FlightGear. This error means that FG can't find it's data files (all it's textures, models, scenery, aircraft, sounds, config files, data files, etc. etc.) You need to: 1) Make sure the fgfs data (often called base package) is installed on your system. 2) Tell fgfs where to find it. 2a) you could either install it in the place the binary is looking for. 2b) you could install it someplace else and make /sw/share/FlightGear a symbolic link to the actual location. 2c) you could set your $FG_ROOT environment variable to point to the actual location. 2d) you could run fgfs with the --fg-root=/some/path/to/the/fgfs/data command line option. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
That is precisely what puzzles me. The DATA folder is in the same directory where fgfs is. And it contains all that you mention, ie: textures, models, scenery, aircraft, sounds, ... ?? Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:46 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: This is the path I am using, and the results are the same. I think the use of / is right here or am I wrong? Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: /sw/share/FlightGear Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout Again, I know little about the Mac or the Mac fgfs port, but this means you have the path to your fgfs binary correct, but look at the error message: Found version [none] at: /sw/share/FlightGear This means by default fgfs is looking for the FG data tree in /sw/share/FlightGear. This error means that FG can't find it's data files (all it's textures, models, scenery, aircraft, sounds, config files, data files, etc. etc.) You need to: 1) Make sure the fgfs data (often called base package) is installed on your system. 2) Tell fgfs where to find it. 2a) you could either install it in the place the binary is looking for. 2b) you could install it someplace else and make /sw/share/FlightGear a symbolic link to the actual location. 2c) you could set your $FG_ROOT environment variable to point to the actual location. 2d) you could run fgfs with the --fg-root=/some/path/to/the/fgfs/data command line option. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
Agh! What's baffling me about this is I also have a Linux box where I successfully installed this game, but the graphics card was weak, so I want to run it on my G5. Alfonso, if I read the exchanges between Jonathan Polley and Jim Smeall correctly shouldn't there be a / before Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs? Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 7:45 AM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: This is the path I am using, and the results are the same. I think the use of / is right here or am I wrong? Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: /sw/share/FlightGear Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:20 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I know little about the mac, but I can tell right away that the file path you have is wrong: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs If you've only ever dealt with clickable folders, the concept of file paths might be a bit foreign, but absolute paths (and I think you want absolute, not relative) need to start with a /. It sounds to me like the current mac version requires unix experience to have a chance at running it. I suspect most Mac people have never popped the hood on OSX (and the hood wasn't really poppable on previous versions anyway) so they don't know what to do when the instructions say edit such and such a file and replace blah-blah-blah with the path to your home directory. Essentially we are asking them to pop the hood and rewire their car's engine to get fgfs working. We probably need some sort of better packaging for Mac if we want to get anywhere there. (This stuff of course really isn't all that hard, but for someone with absolutely zero unix experience, you really have to spell out every keystroke in order.) Regards, Curt. Francis X. Maier wrote: I don't think so; I've doublechecked my permissions. Fran On Dec 11, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Chris Tulloch wrote: This reminds me of file permissions problem... Chris Tulloch On Saturday 11 December 2004 12:30 pm, Francis X. Maier wrote: Last login: Sat Dec 11 10:21:44 on ttyp2 Welcome to Darwin! Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ cd /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6 Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ls FlightGear_Resource data OpenAL_Installer_OSX.dmgfgfs README.txt run_fgfs Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ./run_fgfs ./run_fgfs: line 1: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or directory Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ Doesn't make any sense. Any ideas what you did differently? Again, sorry to bother you, but this is bedeviling me, and the program looks great. Fran Fran, ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
Right. Misread it. But that only deepens the mystery! ;-) Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:37 AM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: Yes. And that is the way I have it Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... And the first line in the Resource file reads: --fg-root=/Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/data Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 9:16 AM, Francis X. Maier wrote: Agh! What's baffling me about this is I also have a Linux box where I successfully installed this game, but the graphics card was weak, so I want to run it on my G5. Alfonso, if I read the exchanges between Jonathan Polley and Jim Smeall correctly shouldn't there be a / before Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs? Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 7:45 AM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: This is the path I am using, and the results are the same. I think the use of / is right here or am I wrong? Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: /sw/share/FlightGear Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:20 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I know little about the mac, but I can tell right away that the file path you have is wrong: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs If you've only ever dealt with clickable folders, the concept of file paths might be a bit foreign, but absolute paths (and I think you want absolute, not relative) need to start with a /. It sounds to me like the current mac version requires unix experience to have a chance at running it. I suspect most Mac people have never popped the hood on OSX (and the hood wasn't really poppable on previous versions anyway) so they don't know what to do when the instructions say edit such and such a file and replace blah-blah-blah with the path to your home directory. Essentially we are asking them to pop the hood and rewire their car's engine to get fgfs working. We probably need some sort of better packaging for Mac if we want to get anywhere there. (This stuff of course really isn't all that hard, but for someone with absolutely zero unix experience, you really have to spell out every keystroke in order.) Regards, Curt. Francis X. Maier wrote: I don't think so; I've doublechecked my permissions. Fran On Dec 11, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Chris Tulloch wrote: This reminds me of file permissions problem... Chris Tulloch On Saturday 11 December 2004 12:30 pm, Francis X. Maier wrote: Last login: Sat Dec 11 10:21:44 on ttyp2 Welcome to Darwin! Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ cd /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6 Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ls FlightGear_Resource data OpenAL_Installer_OSX.dmgfgfs README.txt run_fgfs Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ./run_fgfs ./run_fgfs: line 1: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or directory Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ Doesn't make any sense. Any ideas what you did differently? Again, sorry to bother you, but this is bedeviling me, and the program looks great. Fran Fran, ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
Curt, But that doesn't explain this response: Last login: Sun Dec 12 08:58:04 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/data Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout [Process completed] I __DO__ have a version file in my data folder in exactly the place it appears to be looking. It contains only one line: 0.9.6. Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:49 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: That is precisely what puzzles me. The DATA folder is in the same directory where fgfs is. And it contains all that you mention, ie: textures, models, scenery, aircraft, sounds, ... Right, but the error message indicates that FG is looking in /sw/share/FlightGear, not the current directory. Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
If it matters, my (invisible) .fgfsrc file is located in /Users/franx2. It is not located in /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6. Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:52 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: Yes. And that is the way I have it Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... And the first line in the Resource file reads: --fg-root=/Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/data Well here is where someone who has gotten it to run on the Mac needs to step in. I can only speak in generalities, not Mac specifics. But, it appears taht your resource file (?) is not being read? FG by default looks for ~/.fgfsrc (where ~ = your home directory.) Is that what you are refering to? Is that the Resource file that has this command line option? Why do you have a ; exit at the end of your command? Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
Francis X. Maier wrote: If it matters, my (invisible) .fgfsrc file is located in /Users/franx2. It is not located in /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6. That is the correct place (at least for standard unix.) Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: That is precisely what puzzles me. The DATA folder is in the same directory where fgfs is. And it contains all that you mention, ie: textures, models, scenery, aircraft, sounds, ... Right, but the error message indicates that FG is looking in /sw/share/FlightGear, not the current directory. Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
Francis X. Maier wrote: Curt, But that doesn't explain this response: Last login: Sun Dec 12 08:58:04 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/data Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout [Process completed] I __DO__ have a version file in my data folder in exactly the place it appears to be looking. It contains only one line: 0.9.6. But $/Users/franx2/FlightGear-0.9.6/data is not a valid path. Paths should never start with $ (unless you are mixing in variables which you aren't trying to do here.) You need to fix the path (probably in your script based on how I gather the mac version is setup.) Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
I moved the FlightGear folder into my home directory, ie when I click on the house in the dock that is where FlightGear is. Not in the applications folder. I know almost nothing about Unix but I followed Jonathan's instructions and I got it to work. Perhaps the location and the path is the key? ~~ -Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vaughn, WA, USA 20 iMac G5, 10.3.6 ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
HOLY COW, that was it !!! Thanks Curt. It was the $ all along. Dohh. Many thanks! Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 9:12 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Francis X. Maier wrote: Curt, But that doesn't explain this response: Last login: Sun Dec 12 08:58:04 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/data Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout [Process completed] I __DO__ have a version file in my data folder in exactly the place it appears to be looking. It contains only one line: 0.9.6. But $/Users/franx2/FlightGear-0.9.6/data is not a valid path. Paths should never start with $ (unless you are mixing in variables which you aren't trying to do here.) You need to fix the path (probably in your script based on how I gather the mac version is setup.) Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
Jim, I got it going based on exchanges with Curt earlier today on this list. In my case I had a $ in front of /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6 in my run_fgfs and Flight_Resource files. When I removed it, voila. Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:07 AM, James Smeall wrote: I moved the FlightGear folder into my home directory, ie when I click on the house in the dock that is where FlightGear is. Not in the applications folder. I know almost nothing about Unix but I followed Jonathan's instructions and I got it to work. Perhaps the location and the path is the key? ~~ -Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vaughn, WA, USA 20 iMac G5, 10.3.6 ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
Isn't this a valid path? [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:12 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Francis X. Maier wrote: Curt, But that doesn't explain this response: Last login: Sun Dec 12 08:58:04 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/data Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout [Process completed] I __DO__ have a version file in my data folder in exactly the place it appears to be looking. It contains only one line: 0.9.6. But $/Users/franx2/FlightGear-0.9.6/data is not a valid path. Paths should never start with $ (unless you are mixing in variables which you aren't trying to do here.) You need to fix the path (probably in your script based on how I gather the mac version is setup.) Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
Al, Post both your run_fgfs file readout and your Flight_Resource readout. You have to be really close. Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:37 PM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: Isn't this a valid path? [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:12 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Francis X. Maier wrote: Curt, But that doesn't explain this response: Last login: Sun Dec 12 08:58:04 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/data Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout [Process completed] I __DO__ have a version file in my data folder in exactly the place it appears to be looking. It contains only one line: 0.9.6. But $/Users/franx2/FlightGear-0.9.6/data is not a valid path. Paths should never start with $ (unless you are mixing in variables which you aren't trying to do here.) You need to fix the path (probably in your script based on how I gather the mac version is setup.) Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
I found it with Find. It is in my home directory (alfonsol) [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs Al On Dec 13, 2004, at 12:02 AM, Francis X. Maier wrote: Al, You should have your invisible .fgfsrc file __not__ in your FlightGear0.9.6 folder, but outside it in your home directory. You might check that. You can download the freeware TinkerTool program that will reveal that for you. Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:50 PM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: There, in my home directory, is where I have it too. But to no avail so far. Another stupid question (Mac): when I was using version 0.9.4 there was a file called fgfs (info. describes it as Unix executable file) AND another called FlightGear (described as Application) both in the same FlightGear folder. The download of 0.9.6 doesn't have the application. Only the fgfs executable. Did I get only an incomplete download? I ask this because Jonathan sent me the following: The flight gear application is called fgfs. There is no script called run_fgfs in that directory (yet). Jonathan Polley Thanks for your patience, Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 11:07 AM, James Smeall wrote: I moved the FlightGear folder into my home directory, ie when I click on the house in the dock that is where FlightGear is. Not in the applications folder. I know almost nothing about Unix but I followed Jonathan's instructions and I got it to work. Perhaps the location and the path is the key? ~~ -Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vaughn, WA, USA 20 iMac G5, 10.3.6___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
I have repaired mine, at least three times to no avail. Al On Dec 11, 2004, at 5:41 PM, Chris Tulloch wrote: This reminds me of file permissions problem... Chris Tulloch On Saturday 11 December 2004 12:30 pm, Francis X. Maier wrote: Last login: Sat Dec 11 10:21:44 on ttyp2 Welcome to Darwin! Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ cd /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6 Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ls FlightGear_Resource data OpenAL_Installer_OSX.dmgfgfs README.txt run_fgfs Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ./run_fgfs ./run_fgfs: line 1: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or directory Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ Doesn't make any sense. Any ideas what you did differently? Again, sorry to bother you, but this is bedeviling me, and the program looks great. Fran Fran, ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
Same here. I have a data folder with all the packages, and even a version file with the sole contents 0.9.6. Fran Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:18 AM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: That is precisely what puzzles me. The DATA folder is in the same directory where fgfs is. And it contains all that you mention, ie: textures, models, scenery, aircraft, sounds, ... ?? Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:46 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: This is the path I am using, and the results are the same. I think the use of / is right here or am I wrong? Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit [Alfonso-Lebron-Bergess-Computer:~] alfonsol% /Users/alfonsol/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: /sw/share/FlightGear Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6 logout Again, I know little about the Mac or the Mac fgfs port, but this means you have the path to your fgfs binary correct, but look at the error message: Found version [none] at: /sw/share/FlightGear This means by default fgfs is looking for the FG data tree in /sw/share/FlightGear. This error means that FG can't find it's data files (all it's textures, models, scenery, aircraft, sounds, config files, data files, etc. etc.) You need to: 1) Make sure the fgfs data (often called base package) is installed on your system. 2) Tell fgfs where to find it. 2a) you could either install it in the place the binary is looking for. 2b) you could install it someplace else and make /sw/share/FlightGear a symbolic link to the actual location. 2c) you could set your $FG_ROOT environment variable to point to the actual location. 2d) you could run fgfs with the --fg-root=/some/path/to/the/fgfs/data command line option. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
Curt, What should the path be? This tells me that fgfs is located in my home folder (/Users/franx) in the subfolder /FlightGear0.9.6. Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 7:20 AM, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I know little about the mac, but I can tell right away that the file path you have is wrong: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs If you've only ever dealt with clickable folders, the concept of file paths might be a bit foreign, but absolute paths (and I think you want absolute, not relative) need to start with a /. It sounds to me like the current mac version requires unix experience to have a chance at running it. I suspect most Mac people have never popped the hood on OSX (and the hood wasn't really poppable on previous versions anyway) so they don't know what to do when the instructions say edit such and such a file and replace blah-blah-blah with the path to your home directory. Essentially we are asking them to pop the hood and rewire their car's engine to get fgfs working. We probably need some sort of better packaging for Mac if we want to get anywhere there. (This stuff of course really isn't all that hard, but for someone with absolutely zero unix experience, you really have to spell out every keystroke in order.) Regards, Curt. Francis X. Maier wrote: I don't think so; I've doublechecked my permissions. Fran On Dec 11, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Chris Tulloch wrote: This reminds me of file permissions problem... Chris Tulloch On Saturday 11 December 2004 12:30 pm, Francis X. Maier wrote: Last login: Sat Dec 11 10:21:44 on ttyp2 Welcome to Darwin! Suanns-Computer:~ franx2$ cd /Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6 Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ls FlightGear_Resource data OpenAL_Installer_OSX.dmgfgfs README.txt run_fgfs Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ ./run_fgfs ./run_fgfs: line 1: $/Users/franx2/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or directory Suanns-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 franx2$ Doesn't make any sense. Any ideas what you did differently? Again, sorry to bother you, but this is bedeviling me, and the program looks great. Fran Fran, ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
There, in my home directory, is where I have it too. But to no avail so far. Another stupid question (Mac): when I was using version 0.9.4 there was a file called fgfs (info. describes it as Unix executable file) AND another called FlightGear (described as Application) both in the same FlightGear folder. The download of 0.9.6 doesn't have the application. Only the fgfs executable. Did I get only an incomplete download? I ask this because Jonathan sent me the following: The flight gear application is called fgfs. There is no script called run_fgfs in that directory (yet). Jonathan Polley Thanks for your patience, Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 11:07 AM, James Smeall wrote: I moved the FlightGear folder into my home directory, ie when I click on the house in the dock that is where FlightGear is. Not in the applications folder. I know almost nothing about Unix but I followed Jonathan's instructions and I got it to work. Perhaps the location and the path is the key? ~~ -Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vaughn, WA, USA 20 iMac G5, 10.3.6 ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Mac problem
Al, You should have your invisible .fgfsrc file __not__ in your FlightGear0.9.6 folder, but outside it in your home directory. You might check that. You can download the freeware TinkerTool program that will reveal that for you. Fran On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:50 PM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote: There, in my home directory, is where I have it too. But to no avail so far. Another stupid question (Mac): when I was using version 0.9.4 there was a file called fgfs (info. describes it as Unix executable file) AND another called FlightGear (described as Application) both in the same FlightGear folder. The download of 0.9.6 doesn't have the application. Only the fgfs executable. Did I get only an incomplete download? I ask this because Jonathan sent me the following: The flight gear application is called fgfs. There is no script called run_fgfs in that directory (yet). Jonathan Polley Thanks for your patience, Al On Dec 12, 2004, at 11:07 AM, James Smeall wrote: I moved the FlightGear folder into my home directory, ie when I click on the house in the dock that is where FlightGear is. Not in the applications folder. I know almost nothing about Unix but I followed Jonathan's instructions and I got it to work. Perhaps the location and the path is the key? ~~ -Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vaughn, WA, USA 20 iMac G5, 10.3.6 ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
