High!
"property is theft."
There is Private/Collective/State Property
(landed estate, mine, factory, bank, block of flats, etc.
- tools of exploitation)
and
there is Personal Property
(tooth brush, family house, bed, car, sunglass, condom, pen,
cat, personal computer, table etc.
- not tools
In a message dated 05/21/2000 5:43:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The majority of young males who were my students in the South Bronx said
they
didn't expect to live beyond 21. Now that's sad. They sussed out that
society
had no slots for them and wasn't
writes bestpoet:
In some ways I think Hillary is right, it does take a village to raise a
child, and these kids perceive that the village doesn't care about them as
much as it cares about others. I think it's really difficult for us to
imagine what it's like to be raised in that kind of
In a message dated 05/23/2000 2:02:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A lot of villages -- maybe most of them--do a really crappy job of raising
their
children. But the rest of the world, it's still there. And anyone can see
and hear
and feel it. Maybe that's the
Ah, a breath of fresh air. Thank you George.
In a message dated 05/18/2000 10:25:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The phrase "property is theft" is from Proudhon. His view was not at all
simplistic, but based on a critique of the capital - labour relation...
In
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: FLUXLIST: Imagine
the origin of copyright and how he thought that it was originally devised to
protect creators and was now being used by corporations to prevent people
And there is this completely different anglo saxon concept of "copyright",
Right on George~!
T.
George Free wrote:
After the talk I was reading a Linux user group
newspaper I
picked up that included a short article by Richard Stallman talking
about
the origin of copyright and how he thought that it was originally
devised to
protect creators and was now being used by
I'd __**- * really like to hear Myke's Ymponies now!
Ahem! They're Ymphony!s. Get it right! :)
How 'bout it? :) A little taste? Imagine.
If you don't have a MiniDisc player, Imagining them is about all you can
do. So just think along the lines of "Life With The Lions", "Two Virgins"
I agree. I (something of a socialist, though not Marxist) had a discussion
with an anarchist friend of mine a while back where I defended the concept
of property. To me, the essence of property is access. Say if I'm reading a
book and set it down halfway through one day. I want to be able to
Ahem! They're Ymphony!s. Get it right! :)
oops!
Yes. It's very important that the spelling and punctuation are maintained!
If you don't have a MiniDisc player...
ah! but I _do! three in fact, one a lovely MD/CD/ boombox!
Did you respond to my request last month for mailing
In a message dated 05/17/2000 12:43:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perhaps they were
precocious city kids, these particular kids, or maybe as I fear and
as the look attested to, they were normal, basic kids with a high
level of cynicism and an abnormally low level
I believe
John Lennon was less an hypocrite and more a dreamer and I don't
think that's all so bad.
It's not bad at all to be a dreamer, however, if you go through life
formulating opinions about how you think the world should be and you
write globally popular hit songs based upon your
I can't recall anything about him giving
up his possessions while being quick to suggest that others give
up theirs for the betterment of humanity.
Creating a message and an ideology are different things, which is why
idealism exists -- to hoist a message high. However, years of
uninspired
Adam, you've made excellent points.
I do not agree with the anarchist statement that "property is theft."
Wouldn't theft under anarchic conditions be OK anyway?
Myke
Lord Hasenpfeffer wrote:
All well and good, however, I've imagined a world with XYZ and it
appeared to me to be quite void of purpose and motivation.
But did you write a song which inspired millions?
I'd __**- * really like to hear Myke's Ymponies now! How 'bout it? :) A
little taste? Imagine.
/:b
But did you write a song which inspired millions?
I wrote an imaginary song which inspired imaginary millions, so...
Yes!!
Myke
Myke wrote - ...I cannot recall a single instance in which he (John Lennon)
actually practised
what he preached when it came to possessions. As much as I admire and
respect the man for his art and his creativity, certain things about him
spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E to me. I've been personally divided
You become wealthy and then you have a choice - do you
continue to practice your art anyway - or do you change?
It depends on whether or not your goal is to make art for
art's sake or to use art as a source of income.
Money makes certain things easier.
But does it necessarily diminish
God this is insufferable!!!
God this is insufferable!!!
I was quite enjoying it...
God this is insufferable!!!
Think of it as Conversation Piece.
Myke
God this is insufferable!!!
I was quite enjoying it...
Me too.
Insufferable... Hmmm... Seems I've heard that word used in conjunction
with the title, "Cambridge 1969", a time or two in my life...
It's still a great piece, IMHO.
Myke
I'm glad you said it ;)
On Tue, 16 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
God this is insufferable!!!
Terrence writes;
imagine there's no heaven, above us on--ly sky ..imagine all the
p-e-o-p-l-e liv-ing for to-day -ey ey iii
T.
{ brad brace } wrote:
I'm glad you said it ;)
On Tue, 16 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
God this is insufferable!!!
I believe religion enters into this, so I'll say "Amen."
However, to use another "in" word, Myke's incorrigible. ;
{ brad brace } wrote:
I'm glad you said it ;)
On Tue, 16 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
God this is insufferable!!!
imagine there's no heaven, above us on--ly sky
And this, of course, assumes that there is a Heaven and not only sky
otherwise there'd be no need to imagine it the other way around, right?
Myke
Terrence wrotes:
imagine there's no heaven, above us on--ly sky ..imagine all the
p-e-o-p-l-e liv-ing for to-day -ey ey iii
Dinner with 3 /contemporary/ teenagers Sunday night: discussion among
three generations kept bouncing back to idealism vs. cynicism. I
commented on that, my
Terrence writes;
It's a belief system. If you belive there is something, there is, because
you think.
I mean if you belive in God you have to belive in the devil angels etc.
It's not about being rational, but then purly rational beings are sort of
boring and perhaps even preditory. Heaven and
corrected version -
I always have to laugh when I hear that stupid John Lennon song,
"Imagine"...
especially when he sings "Imagine no possessions..." And what was the
value
of his estate at the time of his death?
Yes, but surely John Lennon was always very much aware of how rich he was
he
Roger,
We seem to be one at least a similar wavelength here.
John never did lose his working class sensibilities, that's for sure.
However, I cannot recall a single instance in which he actually practiced
what he preached when it came to possessions. As much as I admire and
respect the man for
interesting detail that george maciunas designed the innersleeve of the
imagine album. good maciunas-like typography. (the stings on that album are
called the flux fiddlers)
he also designed the inside cover (photocollage) of onos double lp fly,
which also features joe jones.
so pretty much
I'm here because of my fascination with Yoko's art and the influences
she and John had directly on me which comes through in that which I
create.
Myke
Interesting that Ringo Starr has a recent tv commercial out for Schwab...
If you haven't seen it, shows Ringo band playing and attempting to compose
-
Guitarist gets stuck on the word "elation" "man, what rhymes with elation?"
Ringo pipes up with:
"dividend reinvestment participation?
market
High!
I'm here because of my fascination with Yoko's art and the influences
she and John had directly on me which comes through in that which I
create.
Myke
Oh, Lord, it's so nice to create!
Hugh!
aa
Oh, Lord, it's so nice to create!
Actually, I've been told that we cannot truly create anything.
We can only rearrange that which has already been created.
But I'm not so sure. My recordings go beyond the physical.
Myke
They both had their shortcomings, so what, we all do.
We all know John's. What were Jesus'?
Myke
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