RE: FLUXLIST: mesostic/acrostic/exhaustic etc. - is there a mesoway?

2006-05-26 Thread Allan Revich
great stuff there. thanks for sharing it. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mIEKAL aNDSent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:55 PMTo: FLUXLIST@scribble.comSubject: Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic/acrostic/exhaustic etc. - is there a mesoway? which reminds me of a form we used

Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic/acrostic/exhaustic etc. - is there a mesoway?

2006-05-25 Thread mIEKAL aND
fluXosticOn May 21, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Allan Revich wrote: 1) mesostic (non-conforming) 2) simple mesostic 3) meso-acrostic 4) Brown Mesostic 5) non-Cage mesostic 6) basic mesostic 7) ? ...suggestions?

Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic/acrostic/exhaustic etc. - is there a mesoway?

2006-05-25 Thread Halvard Johnson
paleoXosticOn May 25, 2006, at 4:53 PM, mIEKAL aND wrote:fluXosticOn May 21, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Allan Revich wrote: 1) mesostic (non-conforming) 2) simple mesostic 3) meso-acrostic 4) Brown Mesostic 5) non-Cage mesostic 6) basic mesostic 7) ? ...suggestions?

Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic/acrostic/exhaustic etc. - is there a mesoway?

2006-05-25 Thread mIEKAL aND
which reminds me of a form we used to use a lot in the late 80s which we called fluxonyms.  here's a bunch of them here.http://www.muse-apprentice-guild.com/winter_2003/miekal-collaboration/literary_magazine.htmlOn May 25, 2006, at 3:53 PM, mIEKAL aND wrote:fluXosticOn May 21, 2006, at 1:55 PM,

Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic/acrostic/exhaustic etc. - is there a mesoway?

2006-05-22 Thread Rod Stasick
On 2006 May 21, at 10:59 AM, Allan Revich wrote:   So the issue is, what becomes of the "0% mesostic"? It is not an acrostic. It is not 50% mesostic, nor is it a 100% mesostic. I remain wont to call it a mesostic as that term seems well-suited to describe an acrostic poem with the phrase down the

Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic/acrostic/exhaustic etc. - is there a mesoway?

2006-05-22 Thread Rod Stasick
On 2006 May 21, at 1:55 PM, Allan Revich wrote:   The more I learn, the less I seem to know!   Rod, what do you think?Hahahahaha! Well, yes, I think I may have answered this in my last post.Allan, I think that if you can come up with a unique way of constructing your poemsusing acrostics, then you

RE: FLUXLIST: mesostic/acrostic/exhaustic etc. - is there a mesoway?

2006-05-22 Thread Allan Revich
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod StasickSent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:34 AMTo: FLUXLIST@scribble.comSubject: Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic/acrostic/exhaustic etc. - is there a mesoway? On 2006 May 21, at 10:59 AM, Allan Revich wrote: So the issue is, what becomes of the &q

Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic/acrostic/exhaustic etc. - is there a mesoway?

2006-05-22 Thread Cecil Touchon
That would be a rhopalic verse (only one 'l') Of text in which each word contains one more letter or syllable than the one preceding it. This word derives from the Greek rhopalos, for a club or cudgel which, like most of its kind, is thicker towards one end than the other. Though the English

Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic/acrostic/exhaustic etc. - is there a mesoway?

2006-05-22 Thread Rod Stasick
Sorry, I meant to say an anti-rhopalic verse... On 2006 May 22, at 10:29 AM, Rod Stasick wrote: ...would be a steady reduction of her first line idea to an exhausted state - a kind of rhopallic verse or syllabic snowball, then it would fit the name more closely. Rod

Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic/acrostic/exhaustic etc. - is there a mesoway?

2006-05-22 Thread Rod Stasick
On 2006 May 22, at 10:47 AM, Allan Revich wrote: Thanks Rod for such a thoughtful answer.   I confess to remaining unconvinced that only Cage's mesostic forms can rightfully be called "mesostic", but I am certainly much better informed than I was a week ago!   It is interesting to contemplate

Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic/acrostic/exhaustic etc. - is there a mesoway?

2006-05-22 Thread Rod Stasick
On 2006 May 22, at 10:48 AM, Cecil Touchon wrote: That would be a rhopalic verse (only one 'l') Thanks Cecil. I caught that when it showed up later. I really meant anti-rhopalic (and anti-snowball as well, I suppose). Rod

RE: FLUXLIST: mesostic/acrostic/exhaustic etc. - is there a mesoway?

2006-05-21 Thread Allan Revich
Revisiting my revisitation: From Perloff's article it seems that Cage may not have used the "0% mesostic" or meso-acrostic himself. But the same article (same paragraph) does suggest that the term may still apply to meso-acrostic poems that do not conform to Cage's mesostic rules, since it

RE: FLUXLIST: mesostic

2006-05-19 Thread Allan Revich
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RE: FLUXLIST: mesostic

2006-05-19 Thread Allan Revich
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Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic

2006-05-19 Thread Rod Stasick
On 2006 May 19, at 8:43 AM, Allan Revich wrote:n his early mesostics, Cage would simply write a word (usually a name) vertically down the page, with all the letters capitalized. Then, he would "fill in the blanks" and come up with a poem using the "spine" he had chosen. For Example (by the

Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic

2006-05-19 Thread mIEKAL aND
I remember going thru this before but I forget what the rules for mesostics (as set forth by Cage) are...? On May 19, 2006, at 9:25 AM, Rod Stasick wrote: I don't know where this example came from, but it is NOT a mesostic. Neither is Dawgs unfortunately. Neither one follow the rule of

Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic

2006-05-19 Thread Rod Stasick
On 2006 May 19, at 11:06 AM, mIEKAL aND wrote: I remember going thru this before but I forget what the rules for mesostics (as set forth by Cage) are...? The two basic types of mesostics are: • 50 percent mesostics: between any two mesoletters, you can't have the second and • 100

RE: FLUXLIST: mesostic

2006-05-19 Thread Madawg Painterofdark
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RE: FLUXLIST: mesostic

2006-05-19 Thread Allan Revich
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic On 2006 May 19, at 8:43 AM, Allan Revich wrote: n his early mesostics, Cage would simply write a word (usually a name) vertically down the page, with all the letters capitalized. Then, he would fill in the blanks and come up

Re: FLUXLIST: mesostic

2006-05-18 Thread Rod Stasick
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Re: FLUXLIST: Mesostic for Patricia

2000-05-10 Thread Roger Stevens
can I put it in the book, Don? she is Pretty and nice, intelligent And informed. i'm Talking about our favoRed fluxlIst member, who loves Cats and all of us at least I hope she does And that's all. Don

Re: FLUXLIST: Mesostic for Patricia

2000-05-10 Thread Patricia
At 04:56 PM 05/10/2000 +0100, you wrote: can I put it in the book, Don? OH, NO, our secret revealed in the Fluxlist gossip column by that madcap about town, Roger Radio! If you were to put it in the book, you'd have to supply the caveat that D.B. was paid THOUSANDS of fluxbucks so he would