FLUXLIST: Fwd: Review of LAFT 52

2004-07-01 Thread John M. Bennett
Interesting review:

John,
Hmm, I should've told you sooner, but I posted a review of the latest
Lost and Found Times on my blog last night (night before last, by the
time you get this). Link below:
http://dbqp.blogspot.com/2004/06/eternal-lost-and-found-times.html
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FLUXLIST: Gnilbbog

2004-07-01 Thread John M. Bennett








Gnilbbog


gobbling .bunch a sremaof ,altered wristage knas foaming ekil a hctaw
leak )“casket”( gnilbbog hsah wire an sank eht wodniw gnileehw .nudge my
watch toof. foul hcnerd eht teksac waters hcuo ‘n desuod like hash fire
ekil brawn rednow linty water ouched ‘n collared htiw ry erif .egdun ym
foot ron peels sleep nor toof my nudge. fire yr with deralloc n’ dehcuo
retaw ytnil wonder nwarb like erif hsah ekil doused n’ ouch sretaw casket
the drench luof. foot hctaw ym egdun. wheeling window the knas na eriw
hash gobbling (“teksac”) kael watch a like gnimaof sank egatsirw deretla,
foamers a hcnub. gnilbbog






John M. Bennett




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FLUXLIST: Dedlof

2004-07-01 Thread John M. Bennett







Dedlof


dehcti
rash an clouded
gulp hum
reehs gnidaer
eht corn dnalg
you ,woc
folded
dedlof
cow, uoy
gland nroc the
reading sheer
muh plug
deduolc na hsar
itched






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FLUXLIST: a deck of cards - FULL

2004-07-01 Thread brian
the deck is complete.

i will be sending updates to the list throughout the day.
a list of names and cards.
instructions.
those who did not make the deck will be attended to.
any questions will be answered.

to lessen the load on those who do not like the constant
   updates, i apologize, as many folk miss things on the
   first volley. 
i will be constructing a group address today as well.
pardon again.

thank you,

brian

 




FLUXLIST: a deck of cards - one

2004-07-01 Thread brian
a deck of cards.

52 cards.
i will supply the 2 jokers.
each card being a  sound  piece.
length: from 0 second modification to 1 minute.
0 second modification: a word/picture piece.

two final versions
limited: 52 3 cd-rw discs housed in a handmade wooden box
unlimited: 4 3 cd-rw discs housed in a package resembling
   a deck of cards

send your submissions to: brian
  7133 N. Mesa  #18
  El Paso, TX  79912
or to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

there is no deadline, or restrictions placed upon the piece,
  save from what is instructed above.





Re: FLUXLIST: the wonderful laughter of madawg

2004-07-01 Thread brian
hello Kathy

i have put the Jack of Spades up for acceptance.
i have targeted one person as i feel his contribution
  will be great.

as far as how this works, i will be sending/re-sending posts
   which should clear things up.
many of the folks contributing are not from FluxList as you will see.

back to lists,

brian




FLUXLIST: a box of crayons

2004-07-01 Thread brian
a box of Crayola Crayons



Re: FLUXLIST: fluxdressbook ii

2004-07-01 Thread aliceklar
actually, i need 4-1/2x6 inch.
you can use both sdies if you like. i'm going to
pamphlet stitch these so it will be folded into a
little booklet


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 6/29/2004 9:51:22 PM Eastern
 Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
  for this one, i would like for participants to
 send me
  a four inch by six inch piece for their cover.
 
 i'm sorry, i think i need a little more
 clarification. do you want only one 
 single-sided piece that will be used for a front
 cover? or maybe double-sided? 
 or is it like the previous one which seemed to be
 front, back, outside, 
 inside?
 





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FLUXLIST: a deck of cards - two

2004-07-01 Thread brian
michael leigh: King of Hearts
   Three of Clubs
Allan Revich: Jack of Diamonds
Wojtek Dlugosz: Four of Diamonds
King of Clubs
Madawg: Queen of Hearts
Paul Arnaud Brandt: Four of Hearts
David-Baptiste Chirot: Ace of Spades
   Ace of Diamonds
Kathy Forer: Jack of Hearts
 Jack of Spades
Thad Biggerstaff: Ace of Hearts
  Queen of Spades
Stephen Sykes: Ten of Spades
ben: Three of Spades
Robert H. King: King of Diamonds
King of Spades
tofu: Five of Spades
matt davignon: Nine of Clubs
   Two of Hearts
Aaron Ximm: Nine of Diamonds
HarS: Seven of Clubs
  Six of Hearts
Crispin Webb: Two of Diamonds
Mike Hallenbeck: Two of Hearts
dallas simpson: Two of Spades
Angus Carlyle: Three of Hearts
Marcelo Radulovich: Ace of Clubs
Roger Stevens: Two of Clubs
   Four of Clubs
   Six of Clubs
   Eight of Clubs
Kevin O'Conner: Eight of Diamonds
Chuck: Eight of Spades
Jen Carlile: Five of Clubs
Mike Shiflet: Five of Diamonds
Jonathan Coleclough: Four of Spades
frederic yarm: Jack of Clubs
Chris DeLaurenti: Nine of Spades
Andy Ditzler: Queen of Clubs
Bartek/XV Parowek: Seven of Diamonds
Duncan: Seven of Hearts
Viv Corringham: Seven of Spades
Heather: Six of Spades
anders ostberg: Ten of Hearts
Walter Cianciusi: Three of Diamonds
Chuck: Eight of Spades
Glenn Bach: Eight of Hearts
patrick: Five of Hearts
sirr: Nine of Hearts
omnid (Al C.): Queen of Diamonds
Alex Young: Six of Diamonds
Gary (Muzag): Ten of Clubs
Alessandro Fogar: Ten of Diamonds

i have opted out of the two jokers position, so
  there are now two spots to fill.
as before, first come - first served.

please fine tooth the list to make sure you are
   either there or not.

brian




FLUXLIST: a deck of cards - four

2004-07-01 Thread brian
everything is done.
if the multiple card folk relinquish all save one, then
   there are already enough people on the wait list.
i will keep you stargglers updated.

a final plea to the multiples
keep only one card.   
let the others join.
please.  pretty please.

brian



Re: FLUXLIST: a box of crayons

2004-07-01 Thread badgergirl
Now you're talking
 
 From: brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/07/01 Thu AM 11:26:24 EDT
 To: FluxList [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: FLUXLIST: a box of crayons
 
 a box of Crayola Crayons
 
 




RE: FLUXLIST: a deck of cards

2004-07-01 Thread AllanR
Brian,

How would you prefer to receive the sound cards? As digital files sent
electronically or as CD audio files on physical 3 discs?

Allan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of brian
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 10:13 PM
To: FluxList
Subject: FLUXLIST: a deck of cards

this is not supposed to be complicated...

the deck of cards project is a sound project.
these are not physical paper/cardboard cards.
your sound piece is considered the card. (limited)
your sound piece is considered the file. (unlimited)

limited: a 52 3 disc set in a homemade wooden box
unlimited: a 1 or 2 disc set package in a homemade cardboard box typical of
   a package of cards.

i can see that if everyone has been viewing this in paper card mode how
mundane it seems.
that's not what this is.

thanks,

brian






RE: FLUXLIST: a deck of cards - four

2004-07-01 Thread David-Baptiste Chirot

Dear Brian/Jonah--
i have the ace of spades and ace of diamonds
please feel free to give
the ace of diamonds
to someone else

From: "brian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: "FluxList" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: FLUXLIST: a deck of cards - four 
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:10:36 -0600 
 
everything is done. 
if the multiple card folk relinquish all save one, then 
there are already enough people on the wait list. 
i will keep you stargglers updated. 
 
a final plea to the multiples 
 keep only one card. 
 let the others join. 
 please.pretty please. 
 
brian 
 
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Re: FLUXLIST: a deck of cards

2004-07-01 Thread brian
hey Allan.

anyway that you want me...oops...TO send them is fine.

brian



FLUXLIST: a box of crayons - initial

2004-07-01 Thread brian
a box of Crayola Crayons

pick a color.
if you are not familiar with the Crayola colors:
   http://www.crayola.com/colorcensus/history/index.cfm
for starters, pick any color (removed/renamed/etc.).
you will represent this color with a sound piece.
maximum of one minute in length.
email me with your color choice and second choice,
  with the hope of fending off mulitples.
as submissions come in, the number of crayons in this
   project will work itself out.
either an 8, 12, 24, 48, 64, 96, or 120 box box set.
once your color is confirmed then please either send
 physical mail or email to: brian
7133 N. Mesa  #18
El Paso, TX  79912

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please keep in mind that there might be some trading of colors,
   or concessions made in allowance of crayon color.

my stopwatch began right before this letter was written,

brian





FLUXLIST: Please define kitsch

2004-07-01 Thread secret fluxus
Dear Madawg,
Could you please define what you mean by kitsch?
We can't tell you if we feel we are doing kitsch until
we know what you mean by kitsch.
Sincerely,
Secret Fluxus
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:30:40 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FLUXLIST: question for secret fluxus
do you feel that what you are doing is Kitsch? If not, why not?   Madawg
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Re: FLUXLIST: a deck of cards

2004-07-01 Thread Allan
Ohh. stop it! You're getting me all excited ;-)


- Original Message - 
From: brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: a deck of cards


 hey Allan.
 
 anyway that you want me...oops...TO send them is fine.
 
 brian
 
 



Re: FLUXLIST: a box of crayons - initial

2004-07-01 Thread Jif413
another great idea brian, count me in.

1st choice, Red
2nd choice, Brick Red

thanks!

paul arnaud


Re: FLUXLIST: Please define kitsch

2004-07-01 Thread ArtnAnts
Well, I think Kitsch is debated as to its exact meaning. As I understand it it is an artform that looks back to the past. Kitsch was born in the early days of the industrial revolution . Easel painting that reflected a sense of doom or the sublime. Sentimentilizing is associated with Kitsch in the way that anything far back enough in the past gets sentimentilized. Perhaps other fluxlisters can offer more.


Re: FLUXLIST: a box of crayons _ SUPPLIES

2004-07-01 Thread Ray Noman
Title: Re: FLUXLIST: a box of crayons _ SUPPLIES



Hi!

I think I know the kind crayon youre talking about and Im building up to a rubBEingPROJECT and would love some  AND especially a reliable suppliers!! Would anyone out there in the middle know of anywhere/anyway I  EDGEdwellers !!?? could buy these Mighty Lumber Crayons (or the like!?) via MAILorder or something???!! Im having a hell of a time out here at the edge trying to find good crayons4rubBEing . Any suggestions considered  and possibly even indecent ones! 


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On 2/7/04 4:04 AM, David-Baptiste Chirot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

my favorite is the Mighty Lumber Crayon--

the best for making rubBEings!

and only cost 63 cents american!--and last for ages--

From: badgergirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: a box of crayons 
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 13:26:17 -0400 
 
Now you're talking 
  
  From: brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Date: 2004/07/01 Thu AM 11:26:24 EDT 
  To: FluxList [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Subject: FLUXLIST: a box of crayons 
  
  a box of Crayola Crayons 






FLUXLIST: choice of colors: purple blue

2004-07-01 Thread David-Baptiste Chirot

Dear Jonah:
i would like to make a choice and then the back up choice
here they are, in order:
purple
blue
or you could reverse them? pure publle!
"blue eyes crying in the rain"--"blue must be the color of the blues" -"purple rain"--
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RE: FLUXLIST: Please define kitsch

2004-07-01 Thread David-Baptiste Chirot

Dear Friends:
the best way to define the word is to consult the dictionary as a starting point
certainly some aspects of kitsch can be what one might term the entropy of the sublime--or --its deteroraition--kitsch is usally a derogative tern--ceratinly associated with asp[ects of thesentimental that are borderingon the "distasteful"--yet do evoke passionate feelings in some--while repulsion in others-
there's aloo camp--but i don't think secret fluxus is either camp or kitsch--
this is why i wondered if the aspect of mimicry is not a camouflage, thus attaineing to secret-hood-
or if the ritual reenactment of a historical one-time-only event--is not an attempt as it were to 'contact the gods" via a sort of cathartic identification by means of mimicry---"acting out"--yet under strict controls--
or, on the camp theme--there is the impersonation aspect--but i don't think secret fluxus is into this
maybe more like textbook illustrations? or like those reenactments one finds at historical villages?--
it does--have to do with history, at the core of it--"getting it right"--
but yes consult ye dictionary!--
"for now we see, as through a glass darkly"--david-bc

From: "secret fluxus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: FLUXLIST: Please define kitsch 
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 20:40:42 +0100 
 
Dear Madawg, 
 
Could you please define what you mean by kitsch? 
 
We can't tell you if we feel we are doing kitsch until 
we know what you mean by kitsch. 
 
Sincerely, 
 
Secret Fluxus 
 
 
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:30:40 EDT 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: FLUXLIST: question for secret fluxus 
 
do you feel that what you are doing is Kitsch? If not, why not? 
Madawg 
 
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Re: FLUXLIST: Please define kitsch

2004-07-01 Thread ArtnAnts

In a message dated 7/1/04 4:33:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


kitsch is usally a derogative tern--ceratinly associated with asp[ects of thesentimental that are borderingon the "distasteful"--yet do evoke passionate feelings in some--while repulsion in others-


I think some artists such as Odd Nerdrum seek to raise the bar or maybe go back to the sublime mode of Kitsch before it was considred derogative. But that certainly is the modern definition isnt it?


Re: FLUXLIST: a box of crayons _ SUPPLIES

2004-07-01 Thread ArtnAnts
not sure if they have crayons but Cheap Joes is good.


Re: FLUXLIST: Please define kitsch

2004-07-01 Thread Ray Noman
Title: Re: FLUXLIST: Please define kitsch



Hi there! ... NB: Rays at his computer and this is his CONSIDEREDresponse 

Now perhaps Im unusual because I dont think kitsch and FLUXUS are incompatible or even mutually exclusive  to wit Thomas Kinkade. Now Tom is, arguably, both kitsch and FLUXUS in a contemporary kind of context and his work is especially so:
when you/he make(s) jigsaws out of his paintings 
a FLUXUSdevotee post them to the edge of the world
by CHANCE some customs people mix and shuffle the pieces 
AND from 3 separate puzzles of different (ascending!) complexity
AND pretend that nothing has happened and that it wasnt their fault when you hunt them down
AND invoke 9.11 and then claim that it was for the good of the nation anyway (USA?, OZ?)  SAVE THE EDGE!!!

Theres a part of me that feels that John Cage would have approved and thus would happily admit Tom into the FLUXUSclub. Now some would argue that Madawg did (was responsible for!?) all of that but Ill contest that. Madawg stopped being FLUXUS when he wrapped Kinkades product in his MAILart albeit that he simultaneously assigned a FLUXUSkitsch value to Kinkades product .

There are tensions in FLUXUS and kitsch that are not too dissimilar and if Secret Fluxus are indeed closet kitschists I for one do not think theyve got a thing to worry about and even less if they were to come out of their closet. I promise not to be unkind and also to be very understanding. You see my brother was a closet redneck gay person, and I forgave him when owned up, so Ive got a track record.

Ray _from way out on the edge
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On 2/7/04 5:40 AM, secret fluxus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear Madawg,

Could you please define what you mean by kitsch?

We can't tell you if we feel we are doing kitsch until
we know what you mean by kitsch.

Sincerely,

Secret Fluxus


Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:30:40 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FLUXLIST: question for secret fluxus

do you feel that what you are doing is Kitsch? If not, why not? Madawg

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Re: FLUXLIST: a box of crayons _ SUPPLIES

2004-07-01 Thread Ray Noman
Title: Re: FLUXLIST: a box of crayons _ SUPPLIES



THANX 4 that!! ... Went there on the Net of course and it seems no crayon albeit lots of other great stuff!!

On 2/7/04 11:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Cheap Joes 







FLUXLIST: Re: Ray _from way out on the edge

2004-07-01 Thread Allan



Ray,

What are you outon the edge of? Is it 
dangerous there? Would I be in danger of falling off if I were to be out there 
on the edge too? I think that I am getting close to the edge too. Should I go 
all the way?

Curiously Yours,

AlllqnR


FLUXLIST: I wear a snobbitrooglemeter at all times

2004-07-01 Thread Allan



I wear a snobbitrooglemeter at all times. It grinks like 
nobody's business. I learned how to do it from Roger back in May. Thanks Roger!

AllqnR


Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Ray _from way out on the edge

2004-07-01 Thread Ray Noman
Title: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Ray _from way out on the edge



AlllqnR,

What are you out on the edge of? 
The world!

Is it dangerous there? 
Yep, very very!

Would I be in danger of falling off if I were to be out there on the edge too? 
Yep, and quite a few from elsewhere have already!!

I think that I am getting close to the edge too. Should I go all the way?
Perhaps, but consult your guru, personal trainer, therapist, whatever you have, first!

Apathetically yours [:)))

Ray _from way out on the edge
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On 2/7/04 1:57 PM, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ray,
 
What are you out on the edge of? Is it dangerous there? Would I be in danger of falling off if I were to be out there on the edge too? I think that I am getting close to the edge too. Should I go all the way?
 
Curiously Yours,
 
AlllqnR