Re: FLUXLIST: edition
On May 1, 2006, at 7:24 PM, Rod Stasick wrote: If we really don't have a central repository of all recorded music readily available to us, then I've long wished for everyone to have their own personal radio station - which is possible now. Even if you only have a dial-up connection of Crispin Webb quality, you can still broadcast - well, actually narrowcast - right from your desktop and other's can tune in if they share your taste in music...'cause there's always people who have things that both the listener AND the 'caster don't have and can share. Whether it's corporate rock or ambient field recordings, it's always out there coming IN The concept isn't quite as personal as yours, -- it's a commercial service customizing a feed to your taste, not an individually produced station, -- and some are lacking in variety and depth, but there are a few pretty darn good custom radio stations out there now. Some even allow you to share your profile with others. http://www.gnoosic.com/ http://www.pandora.com http://music.yahoo.com/launchcast/station.asp http://www.last.fm/ http://www.soundflavor.com/ http://epitonic.com/ http://di.fm/
Re: FLUXLIST: edition
On May 1, 2006, at 10:11 PM, Rod Stasick wrote: Apart from those, you can really get personal using something like Nicecast: http://www.rogueamoeba.com/nicecast/ With them (and probably others that are PC friendly), anyone can narrowcast from their desktop. If I want to hear ForeRadio, then you send out your narrowcast address and anyone can listen to what you're listening to or sending out. It's how I did the rodcast with the Fluxus/Dada sounds. Democratic radio for all! Rod, I like my radio station name, thank you! 9didit didtt dit got to got those LPs onto digital one day... Kathy ForeRadio to follow, follow follow
Re: FLUXLIST: edition
On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Rod Stasick wrote: Need a solo 29 minute work? OK, let me play the part of the Metzgermeister and just slice some off for you. Would you like that wrapped? How about 3/4 of a terabyte? http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=16748
Re: FLUXLIST: edition
On Apr 28, 2006, at 9:50 PM, Rod Stasick wrote: No, I want to move UP from 1 TB. Something like this: http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10351 There's bigger too - 2.5TB but you get into large RAID arrays. Ahh, then you need to go to molecular, protein or holographic memory. How about 10 GB per cubic centimeter in a sugar cube? http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~nd/surprise_97/journal/vol1/ary/ Sounds like you could use one of Bowie's 'Man Who Fell To Earth' metal spheres. The Biggest Disk Extreme is nice, nuh?
Fwd: Fwd redux: FLUXLIST: FW: A bit about nothing
My public apologies to Roy for not asking where he's been on Fluxlist in a long while, since last June my librarian friend tells me. I missed his voice from down under. I had really liked his post with the link to the 22 mile sign and wanted to repost for all to see. Alas the old link was broken. Here's to more of the same old nothing in lieu of nothing else. Distractedly yours, Kathy
Fwd: FLUXLIST: Nothing and then some .......
nice photos! Begin forwarded message: From: Ray Noman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 2, 2004 5:27:37 AM EDT To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com, Bron Fionnachd-Fein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Nothing and then some ... Reply-To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com OMG ... Went to DOGPILE – and I was under the illusion that there was only Google so I’m learning something – and found this: “We start, then, with nothing, pure zero. But this is not the nothing of negation. For not means other than, and other is merely a synonym of the ordinal numeral second. As such it implies a first; while the present pure zero is prior to every first. The nothing of negation is the nothing of death, which comes second to, or after, everything. But this pure zero is the nothing of not having been born. There is no individual thing, no compulsion, outward nor inward, no law. It is the germinal nothing, in which the whole universe is involved or foreshadowed. As such, it is absolutely undefined and unlimited possibility -- boundless possibility. There is no compulsion and no law. It is boundless freedom.” Charles S. Peirce, Logic of Events (1898) Then I did a random Google image search and found these: ? http://www.ae.gatech.edu/research/controls/pictures/f020801_gtar/ More%20of%20Nothing.JPG ? http://www.bangmoney.org/travel/ga_to_ca_move/grfx/folder1/ nothing.jpg All of which kind of suggests that there is quite a bit to nothing and it also seems that’s been know for some time. So I think DA’s explanation – 42 – is more comprehendible albeit that all this is quite interesting. Ray _from way out on the edge eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (when the server’s up) BTW ... I did get the JPEG! On 2/5/04 5:22 PM, michael leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Ooops! It seems one cannot send jpegs or even html via the Fluxlist so you did not get to see the diagram of nothing which seems very fitting under the circumstances - sending nothing and finding out nothing never arrived! But if you are keen to see a diagram of nothing I suggest you go to DOGPILE and type in nothing and several thousand images of nothing pop up - one of which is the diagram of nothing in a discourse about the beginning of the universe. All the best, Michael - Ray Noman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is all quite ZENzing if not FLUXUS and I1m contemplating using that scientific drawing/diagram for a logo for something Zz. BUT, I also think that in the end this discourse about nothingness, or somethingness, or whatever, well maybe Douglas Adams probably had an (the?) answer which I struggle to recall . Was it ‘421 or is it now another number like ‘01 or ‘11 or a whole string of 0s 1s? Somethingness is just so hard to avoid, and as for nothingness, well it is equally difficult to embrace. Then again, when I didn1t go to the meeting it was quite OK doing nothing rather than something instead. Quite silly really! Ray _from way out on the edge eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (when the server1s up) Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
Fwd redux: FLUXLIST: FW: A bit about nothing
Begin forwarded message: From: Ray Noman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 9, 2004 11:54:34 AM EDT To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: FLUXLIST: FW: A bit about nothing Reply-To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Well I’ve been playing with nothing and getting nowhere much as one might expect. If you go here http://www.sillyweek.com/NOTHING.html its probably worth clicking on everything ... then again maybe not! involuntary relocation: http://www.kforer.com/hide/ NothingfromELSEWHERE.9.jpg Ray _from way out on the edge eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (when the server’s up)
Re: Fwd redux: FLUXLIST: FW: A bit about nothing
http://www.kforer.com/hide/NothingfromELSEWHERE.9.jpg 22miles by Ray Norman
Re: FLUXLIST: Physical stuff
On Apr 22, 2006, at 8:02 AM, Melissa McCarthy wrote: Has anyone on the list ever done anything wildly destructive and/or cathartic with old work, then used the remains to create something new? (I'm thinking of an art bonfire in a metal trashcan in my own case, an idea I've toyed with for a while, and this may be the year) When I was of a certain age, too young to mention, I had my first boy- girl party (that young) and when no one was paying enough attention to me I irrationally went over to fireplace and oh so casually lent elbow against mantel and swept away my younger precious work. At least two lions modeled after the Public Library lions -- my poor memory doesn't clue me in to what else -- were lost. The scary thing is I think it was pre-meditated. I recall practicing sweeping my elbow against the mantel. It was some kind of hail mary commitment to my own private world. Instant regret and it obviously did nothing but embarrass me. I spent the night contemplating sitting on our thirteenth floor ledge but was scared. I thought if I could sit there, legs hanging down, I'd show myself how brave I was. So I sat on the radiator inside with legs out the open window, inching out until it seemed ridiculous. I've ruined work by working on it too much, taking it where it in contradictory nullifying directions. I've also neglected the stuff, which is tantamount to destroying it slowly. I've also been preemptive and recycled some long-worked clay too soon. I keep every scrap now and someone will have to cope with it when I'm gone. Luckily there's a creek nearby, for now, and it would make good landfill. My teacher spoke of how he once threw his early work out over a bridge. It was inspirational, perhaps I'll start with a few known duds. Some ceramic artists recycle work into mosaic. Taking a hammer to work is a badge of honor, of cool-headed appraisal and judgment, good choices and priorities. Not very fluxus.
Re: FLUXLIST: Physical stuff
Thanks Ann. Enough courage to retell the story years later but nerve to destroy the stuff of dreams then just to to gain attention. Also newfound awareness to recognize that even the most planned events take on another life when enacted and impulse takes over. Hasn't photography created the idea of image for which the live happening is no longer necessary? Record takes precedence over occurrence, and participants become players in sets, dramatis personae. I recall one artist generating her entire work from bread and then other mold hosts. On Apr 22, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Ann Klefstad wrote: Great story, Kathy! I love the sense of the drama of that age, you know you're sort of discovering the scale at which you want to live, and at that age the desired scale is pretty big, and one's abilities are really not up to it. You discover how much courage you have-- a lot, I think, in your case! I have smashed work, stuffed it in dumpsters, abandoned it (once discovered that the closet it was stuffed in on my departure from san francisco had leaked for a few years (I was gone a long time) because the building had been abandoned. The work was largely ruined but a few drawings had grown beautiful molds. So I took them back. Do medical students frame the cadavers on which they practice? I think it's good to dispose of things when they're no longer alive.
Re: FLUXLIST: Physical stuff
On Apr 22, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Allan Revich wrote: I remember when I was 20 or 21 I took a whole series, maybe more that a dozen paintings, each 4 feet by four feet, and burned them in the family fireplace. It felt good and I have never regretted it. There felt something vengeful about my act. Maybe spiteful. Confused and angry. There was catharsis, but then it was as though it had never happened, what was the point? Attention directed away from the stuff to the stuff-maker, objects annulled, repudiated, renounced (in Cecil's act) formally and publicly. But immediate regret, I had been attached to said objects made when I was all of ten, but special, hadn't really wanted to destroy them, just to no longer consider them as important. I made these same time, but they didn't get swept away. I'm glad they didn't. http://kforer.com/gallery/?album=figurative_narrativeimg=6 It could be that I've pursued only archaeology since that first regret, or it could be that's the basis of what I do, make, destroy, extract narrative, recreate.
Re: FLUXLIST: Physical stuff
It's tough enough, we excavate this Stuff -- something out of nothing, that's good -- with great difficulty or ease, but then sometimes go beyond integrity to make capricious judgments or use the work for other purposes, rejecting it, repudiating its truth or validity. But the cycle starts anew and work is made from those salted ashes. Ashes but anew the work starts and from those is made salted cycle. By the willful arrogance of self-destruction, we privatize what had been made possibly too obvious, apparent and available. We eat our children, empowering us in ways powerful and dangerous. But you can also redress absence and failure without disowning or contradicting, by acknowledging and confirming the small possible rather than nullifying. Outwitted He drew a circle that shut me out -- Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout. But love and I had the wit to win: We drew a circle that took him in. -- Edwin Markham
FLUXLIST: tomorrow, nothing
I have nothing, I want nothing, I am nothing -- de sade, zen, theosophy or prayer?
FLUXLIST: building frankenstein
for the geek amongst us sCrAmBlEd?HaCkZ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRlhKaxcKpA
Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Qiki
On Apr 6, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Allan Revich wrote:Hey that’s great! Now all we need is the password again to start contributing… only if the password is put on the list it won’t be long until the spammers have it again too.Do the spammers bother with the list?I finally added one last night after cleaning up that stuff for hours --The pw is the name of the badgerThe upload pw is changed and is now the name of the butlerBoth use Initial Caps
FLUXLIST: singing bridges
http://www.singingbridges.net/bridges/index.html Singing bridges is a sonic sculpture, playing the cables of stay-cabled and suspension bridges as musical instruments. To create this work I will amplify and record the sound of bridge cables around the world. Listening in to the secret voice of bridges as the inaudible vibrations in the cables are translated into sound.
FLUXLIST: ArtCal - Maya Stendhal - Fluxus: To George With Love, From the Personal Collection of Jonas Mekas
http://www.artcal.net/event/view/1/1924 Fluxus: To George With Love, From the Personal Collection of Jonas Mekas Maya Stendhal Chelsea 545 West 20th Street 212-366-1549 Feb. 16 - Mar. 31, 2006 Opening: Mar. 11, 6:00PM - 9:00PM http://www.mayastendhalgallery.com/fluxusPage.html
Re: FLUXLIST: Nte Forer at Flying Visit Symposium
It was wonderful meeting Sol, seeing an old friend I'd never met. It was a sudden unexpected visit, though nothing bad associated with sudden and unexpected, just serendipity (Friday morning call: Do you have a passport? I have extra ticket to London for Tuesday. Okay!). I loved London like someone coming to NYC for the first time might, an absolute wonder, though I've visited before it hadn't been the same without Sol and my other friends and family. Order from all the spaghetti, that's me. Discern structure then abandon (to random interference noise amid general entropy) then place in some kind of relational framework. I don't know about Alan and his beard thing, he'll have to explain that. Sol, I hope to see you when you're here, NYC, after the transit strike. We'll take more pictures. Have a good holiday! Kathy
Re: FLUXLIST: a meop for Jack A. Withers Smote
on a sloe-eyed shoeOn Nov 27, 2005, at 5:20 PM, suse wrote:Where is 'a fluxus danced on a slow shoe' show going to be held? From: johnson alexis"a fluxus danced on a slow shoe" Is this not the stuff dreams are made of?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:here's one for sharkboy- tell him he can email me anytime(done in the Bennettey/Shakespeareeish sonnet form)Damp not yet the the living coals!Heat once again my heart in thee!Intellectual, thou scourge of souls,Dog incline your ear to me!The king's ransom, the price I payFor one night with youTwenty toes and the hayA fluxus danced on a slow shoebyMadawgYahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
Re: FLUXLIST: a meop for Jack A. Withers Smote
in the fold of an anticlineon a sloe-eyed shoeOn Nov 27, 2005, at 5:20 PM, suse wrote:Where is 'a fluxus danced on a slow shoe' show going to be held? From: johnson alexis"a fluxus danced on a slow shoe" Is this not the stuff dreams are made of?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:here's one for sharkboy- tell him he can email me anytime(done in the Bennettey/Shakespeareeish sonnet form)Damp not yet the the living coals!Heat once again my heart in thee!Intellectual, thou scourge of souls,Dog incline your ear to me!The king's ransom, the price I payFor one night with youTwenty toes and the hayA fluxus danced on a slow shoebyMadawgYahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
FLUXLIST: Print Story: Paris' Pompidou Defies Dadaism Prediction
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051003/ap_en_ot/art_dadaprinter=1 Paris' Pompidou Defies Dadaism Prediction By JOELLE DIDERICH, Associated Press Writer Mon Oct 3, 1:38 PM ET German-born artist Max Ernst once quipped that it was impossible to stage an exhibition on Dadaism, saying it was like trying to capture the violence of an explosion by presenting the shrapnel. The early 20th-century avant-garde art movement was born out of the despair many artists felt over the deaths of millions of soldiers in World War I. As they rejected the society they considered responsible for the slaughter, these poets, painters and photographers lashed out at establishment values with absurdist slogans and provocative images. In a bid to capture the explosive energy of the era, France's Pompidou Center has staged a sprawling dada retrospective which it billed as the largest in 40 years. Max Ernst said that a dada exhibition was impossible, so you are no doubt going to see a failure, but a slightly surprising failure, curator Laurent Le Bon joked Monday at the unveiling of the exhibition, which opens Wednesday and runs through Jan. 9, 2006. It groups more than 1,000 works by 50 artists, ranging from luminaries like Jean Arp, Francis Picabia, Marcel Duchamp and Man Ray to lesser-known figures, including the many women who contributed to the movement. Visitors amble through a maze of rooms set out in a checkerboard pattern, a recurring theme in dada paintings and collages. Exhibits range from the porcelain urinal that Duchamp famously elevated to the rank of art — thereby laying the foundation of conceptual art — to Picabia's target paintings, which prefigure those of American pop artist Jasper Johns. Fans of Man Ray's modernist photographic experiments will find a number of his so-called rayographs, stark black-and-white prints obtained by placing objects directly on photographic paper and exposing them to light. When you look at these dadaist works of art, there is an explosive quality to each of them which in the end is contrary to a surrealist or cubist work of art, Le Bon told The Associated Press in an interview. I think that within dada there is the idea that there is no separation between art and life. Each of the movement's artists was prolific across a wide variety of disciplines, so that Man Ray was also turning out sculptures while Ernst wrote poems alongside his main activity, painting. As a result, as there are roughly 100 artists, Le Bon said. To show only one work per artist would have been a bit of a shame. We could have shown only masterpieces and that would have made 50 masterpieces, but that's not the spirit of dada. Instead, the Pompidou is also showcasing hundreds of pamphlets, manuscripts and letters signed by the leading writers of the era — among them Andre Breton, Guillaume Apollinaire and Paul Eluard. The movement valued the written word as much as it did images. The exhibition was put together with the help of the National Gallery in Washington, D.C., and New York's Museum of Modern Art, which will display a condensed version of the exhibition next year from Feb. 19-May 14 and June 18-Sept. 11, respectively.
FLUXLIST: Fwd: Toy Noise
http://babel.massart.edu/~flackett/ToyNoise.html It would be nice to be able to choose the sounds yourself, but here it is as given, toy sounds for fluxlist toy lovers.
Re: FLUXLIST: also(l)(r)an. another fffo filmette
On Aug 7, 2005, at 9:33 AM, Carol Starr wrote: hi kathy, i downloaded it to my desktop (i have a mac) but cannot play it. any clues? No idea. Try reinstalling Windows media Player for Mac. You're on OS X, so get it here www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/software/Macintosh/osx/ default.aspx Check and reset all tabs in preferences if needed. Maybe you have the wrong speed or wrong transport. Maybe it just needs to be reset. Is it taking too much RAM? Is something else hogging resources? The problem is usually the sound not playing, not the other way around. Good luck and hello! Kathy
Re: FLUXLIST: also(l)(r)an. another fffo filmette
I'm using a Mac (I have Windows Media Player). I was able to see and hear Sol's movie just fine, but your offerings have only had sound (intriguing sounds, but only sounds, no visual). I am assuming that there are visuals with it, so ... any ideas what's up? They worked fine on this Mac here. Try saving it to your desktop, then opening it. Nice. My formerly stray indoor/outdoor cat really responded to the soundtracks, jumping up, going to the windows, looking all over for elephants and fowl. I don't know why she doesn't see the screen, apparently some cats and dogs do, probably not as interesting as a bug, just a flat moving thing, no dimension. Kathy
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fluxlist convention
meeting time, noontime, the time of the jackal, the time of our lives. dinner time, tea time, mint julep time. In the meantime, here, now. ooo K
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fluxlist convention
sunday in a black chador monday in a red hood tuesday in a blue turmoil wednesday in torn whig thursday in a white thong friday in a red fez saturday in a yellow jumper (it was an elegant weekend)
FLUXLIST: Berzelius 1824 Specific Gravity 2.33
silicon enhanced . . . mind-meld with my computer our modems exchange -- ushi http://www.iscifistory.com/scifaku/elements/periodichaiku.asp
FLUXLIST: selection artwork: Diebold Variations
http://homepage.mac.com/rcareaga/diebold/adworks.htm
Re: FLUXLIST: Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 18:52:42 +0100
All work and no play: http://www.kurzweilai.net/ or more appropriately, http://www.angelfire.com/ne/bluesurf/maze/cmaze.htm Kathy On Nov 22, 2004, at 3:34 AM, michael leigh wrote: -Thanks for this Bloggy blog Kathy but found it extremely dull selection. better off going to- http://www.ilike.org.uk/ http://www.growabrain.typepad.com/ michael
Re: FLUXLIST: Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 18:52:42 +0100
I don't have any dialogue to add just now... but someone just sent a link to bloggy, which includes a list of cultural blogs, http://bloggy.com/blog_links.php, also general, politics, tech and photo.
FLUXLIST: Fwd: Oh God, I know I shouldn't eat thee...
Begin forwarded message: i know several people who have studied reiki .. one told me that she was told to place oranges in two sealed containers and send healing energy only to one. she did this at home (here) and sent energy to one of two jars at her sister's (there)... in both locales the two jars were kept next to each other so conditions were the same. at the end of a year (?) the jars without the healing energy contained rotted withered lumps and the jars that recieived the 'attention' contained whole oranges i hypothesize that the cheese sandwich in its container ... was prayed to and sent healing love fairly often energy is energy ... no matter what belief system one chooses to 'hang it' on.
FLUXLIST: Fwd: The Lady in the Cheese
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=5535890757
Re: FLUXLIST: A.1.Mail Art Archive at bloggerheads with FFFOh Dear
On Oct 14, 2004, at 10:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: supposedly if you take the name of your first pet dog and the street you grew up on you come up with a great stripper's name. In my case it is Kiki Riverside. Madawg Oliver 81? Sounds more like a hacker than a stripper.
FLUXLIST: Fwd: [Politics] how to save the rainforest
Another from another list: Begin forwarded message: There is no shortage of naked activists willing to carry on the legacy of Lady Godiva. Nude and partially nude protesters shocked this year's Republican National Convention, from ACT UP supporters clad only in painted slogans to Axis of Eve members in Expose Bush panties. The California-based ensemble calling itself Baring Witness holds protests in which naked women (and sometimes men) arrange themselves to form words like PEACE and VOTE. Activist Dona Nieto holds impromptu strip poetry readings for logging crews, in the hopes of distracting them from the task of chopping down old-growth redwoods. And everybody knows the folks at PETA would rather go naked than wear fur. But the award for Scandalous Naked Activists of the Year, if there were one, would have to go to the Norwegian nonprofit organization Fuck for Forest. [] http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2004/10/05/harris-naked/
FLUXLIST: NOW! BUY SOME WOOD ON THE INTERNETS! CHEAP!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3845089354
Re: FLUXLIST: big round table downtown
Whenever you're in town! (though I'm in self-imposed exile right now, and loving it..., I still come in weekly.) On Sep 27, 2004, at 11:26 PM, aliceklar wrote: hey, space cadet aliceklar missed this one!!! would love to hang sometime with some peking duck and koh teh
Re: FLUXLIST: damn the fffo tractor
Hey Dave, this is really terrific! I love this sort of stuff. When I was growing up New Years Eve was never a big shindig as it was the anniversary of a death in the family. It wasn't overly mournful or sad, there was champagne, it just didn't flow. I grew used to the solemnity and never really missed out on the big shindigs. At some point I discovered Peter Bocahan's Short Cuts on a local radio station and was transported, even saying a rare no to alternatives with only a few exceptions, or somehow getting my tape player to work in my lieu. Anyhow http://www.mixedup.com/ has /shortcuts and lots of other voice and sound montage. enjoy! I liked Boing2 better than the one in progress, the wip sounds reminds me too much of synthesizer stuff which I don't like. Is that fair to say, or should I say I like everything and it's all great How do you do something like this, or that? What is Ambindustrental? Kathy
Re: FLUXLIST: damn the fffo tractor
Now D A V E I was thinking of this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=153item=3840166200rd=1 so who's ambidustrental? fun name.! k4 On Oct 6, 2004, at 9:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is Ambindustrental? Kathy Tell me who Dave is first! Alanx
FLUXLIST: Sporkopolis
Trash Cans, Postal Boxes, monkeys, elephants A virtual warehouse for images, thoughts, and miscellaneous projects http://sporkopolis.fusioncentral.com/
FLUXLIST: scabbardmaker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professions
Re: FLUXLIST: fffo web bah rats phooey!
On Oct 2, 2004, at 12:22 PM, Alan Bowman wrote: http://art.supereva.it/alanfffo.superdada this for me works fine, the direct link to secretfluxus doesn't (?) it even works on win 98 using ie5 and 6 This works completely and looks terrific. I especially appreciated my 6 dimensional plan # 1 but will come back as there's so much here and it's late as usual, but even so... i installed webdeveloper but don't understand a thing! webdeveloper is useful if you're writing your own code. http://www.chrispederick.com/work/firefox/webdeveloper/screenshots/ ehost is pop-up hall for those not equipped I missed that hall, having Firefox and Safari :-) and the fffo site is too big for the usual 25mb webspace limit. with supereva i got unlimited space - but it doesn't work bah bah bah rats and phooey! it's got all very confusing - i liked it when i had to type in the html on a unix machine - it encourages you to keep it simple! I like bbedit, and making the html look pretty. It's like geometry or algebra, where the form of the answer was half the problem. any suggestions or in fact a simple explaination of whats going wrong? It looks like you fixed superdada despite the bizarre javascript and frameset that supereva adds to your pages. They really muck with your stuff. Maybe you need to spend 60 on a site somewhere. That's not very socialista but I have no other suggestions, the free non-popup, non-frameset non-javascript interfering places I used to know are no more. Your site is good for now ...except... the NEW STUFF swimmer head links on the left come out as html text that doesn't render. Love the miscellany. A lot to smile about!
Re: FLUXLIST: heellipp!
For http://xoomer.virgilio.it/n.waugh/aniani/index.html http://xoomer.virgilio.it/n.waugh/secretfluxus/secretflux1.html http://xoomer.virgilio.it/n.waugh/roger/roger1.html I'm getting pagina non trovato, being redirected to http://jump.xoom.virgilio.it/jump.htm. Safari Mac redirects to the error page but Firefox Mac won't even read the html, huh? You see: !-- saved from url=(0022)http://internet.e-mail --htmlheadtitleSPAZIO WEB - Errore/title Mac IE does the same. http://xoomer.virgilio.it/n.waugh/ works. http://art.supereva.it/alanfffo.superdada/secretfluxus/index.html is very very slow and only sort of works. That must be the one you mean FRAMESET tag put in by supereva.it seems to be the culprit as it's not done right at all, generating many syntax errors. Install http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#webdeveloper for Firefox and try some html validation. You'll see some other things that are unpleasant and have little to do with your pages themselves. Too bad http://www.1and1.com is no longer free. But it's cheap. Ditto a few other places. http://alanfffo.ehost.com/ works and looks good. Can you move everything there? Kathy
Re: FLUXLIST: i forget, but hey...
What's IF game? (Infocom?) The images in the Hitchhikers game look really different than what I had imagined and I went through the WHOLE THING! 1989 or so (last computer game I ever played though) On Sep 30, 2004, at 5:48 PM, brian wrote: i forget if this was the group that sent the Hitchhiker's Guide post, but hey... (a long beautiful poem) if you are a fan, and played the IF game as well, then check this out. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/game.shtml it's the next step to bringing IF to the masses in a pill they can swallow, or a babelfish, if they still do that swallowing babelfish sort of thing.
Re: FLUXLIST: i forget, but hey...
On Sep 30, 2004, at 7:03 PM, brian wrote: didn't i send you your disc with the IF stuff on it? if not, then it will go out post haste, In the meantime, there's The Alice's Restaurant Anti-Massacree Adventure http://www.albany.net/~lauralee/game.htm with a file called arlo.taf -- I like Arlo. Unfortunately for PC only. Old style Zork. along with the college app. dated 1991. Did you go somewhere else in spite of your arrogant resistance in fully complying with an unacceptable application deadline?
FLUXLIST: Fwd: Stickers
Now this seems incestuous, forwarding email from one list to another, but this one is timely. Urban stickers. Begin forwarded message: === Download, Peel and Stick, and All the World's a Gallery http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/26/arts/design/26STOR.html web ref - http://www.urbanmedium.com By SAMANTHA STOREY Correction Appended TWO years ago, a sticker depicting Che Guevara as a Star Wars-style storm trooper began cropping up around Los Angeles, pasted to the backs of mailboxes and street signs. Inspired partly by the popular duotone Che portrait marketed on T-shirts and posters, the image seemed an amalgam of two of the most iconic images of the last half-century. The sticker's creators, Derek Fridman and Heather Alexander, who run the site www.urbanmedium.com, initially intended the character, called Chetrooper, as a commentary about how trendy/pop the whole Che concept was, Mr. Fridman said by e-mail. So many people were wearing his image on a T-shirt without really knowing who he was and what he did. They posted it on the Web for downloading and passed the stickers out at clubs. Using military colors, they went on to create a multi-hued Chetrooper series styled after Andy Warhol's silk-screen Marilyn paintings. Soon they were receiving e-mail messages from people in Japan and Australia who had spotted Chetrooper on telephone poles in Kyoto or Melbourne. A phenomenon was born. Once we started pasting and sticking the image, Mr. Fridman said, it took on a life of its own. Inspired by graffiti, posters and the communal culture of the Web, stickers are gaining wide attention as an artistic phenomenon, academics and practitioners say. Hand-drawn, stenciled or screen-printed, the images float on the Internet, available for downloading, printing and pasting in ways that the creators could only have imagined. And as they make their way around the globe, from one e-mail in-box to the next, one cultural context to another, their meaning tends to morph. Now that broadband users can send large graphics files in an instant, stickers are a very fast-moving medium. A sticker can be created Monday morning in New York, e-mailed to a stranger in Paris and affixed to the back of a trash receptacle on the Champs-Élysées in the early afternoon. It works particularly well in walking cities, said Alice Twemlow, who organizes shows about visual culture as program director at the American Institute of Graphic Arts. Walking brings intimate encounters with the stickers that could not be experienced while driving. There is also an immediacy with which people can respond. Scott Rettberg, a scholar in new media, attributes the resurgence of stickers to low-cost inkjet printers and the ubiquity of the global network. Cheap printers give artists the ability to mass-produce work intended for public consumption, he said, and stickers are easier to place than traditional graffiti. Many sticker artists cite the mainstreaming of skateboard culture as a turning point in their movement. Kids want to have cool high-quality stickers, especially more subversive ones from underground artists, said Zarathustra James, who runs the sticker site www.bomit.com. They'll actually fistfight for free stickers at skate demos. Initially skateboarders used them to decorate the bottoms of their skate decks, but eventually they made their way onto more visible urban signposts. If there is a graffiti tag or sticker or stencil on that electrical box/pole/sign, it looks more aesthetically pleasing than the plain box, Mr. James said by e-mail. And it makes you think. Because the stickers are exposed to the elements as well as to sanitation crews, Web sites have sprung up with the goal of simply documenting a transient art form. In 2002, Marc and Sara Schiller of Manhattan founded www.woostercollective.com, a site dedicated to street art. There was a real great need for artists who are putting art on the street to connect with each other, Ms. Schiller said. The site offers everyone the ability to cross continents, ages, generations. Many sticker artists trace the origins of the current movement to Shepard Fairey, who created a sticker of Andre the Giant, the professional wrestling star, in the early 1990's and posted it at the Web site www.obeygiant.com. Soon he was shipping the stickers to people all over the world. What began as a prank to market something that had no meaning led many people to rethink the potential of such images. Colby Woodland, who exhibits street art at www.20mg.com, describes stickering as a form of visual narcotics. But whereas the media's bombardment of images is intended to make you feel and act a certain way, he said, stickering can confront the viewer in situations when they least expect it. Most of his stickers are subversive in that they seek to create an awareness of the dulling effect that the conventional mass media have on the senses. Paul Burgess of
Re: FLUXLIST: sticker post
It has been requested that I repost the mass media sticker post a third time, but exactly the same as the first time. Sounds like: Step 1: Collect underpants. Step 2: ... Step 3: Profit! to me.
Re: FLUXLIST: sticker post question
On Sep 27, 2004, at 11:25 PM, brian wrote: Kathy, could you please explain for those that are thick as a brick what the steps mean? Another cross-list transplant (I need to get into the studio more. But e-mail keeps me company while I workwork). Step 1: Collect underpants. Step 2: ... Step 3: Profit! I asked the same question, but went to fuckinggoogleit.com and found it was a South Park episode. (South Park for puddle-crossed folk without TV is a clever, foul mouthed Comedy Central kind of Simpsons, or something like that.) See http://www.fool.com/news/foth/2001/foth011108.htm for explanation of the three steps. Why did I use that in response to your request? You're collecting underpants and won't say why or what for and we'll eventually see the results. Not a pure transcription, as we'll eventually, potentially ken step 2, but it was evoked by your request. Kathy
FLUXLIST: Fwd: Coyle Sharpe
Dear Fluxlisters, I have refrained from posting anything or responding to follow-ups (Michael, I never saw the Dracula movie, but the review was an interesting read), awaiting something original or even just fun to say. I have no words now that will do, but I come across various things I think you'd find of interest, so I will continue to forward these bits to the list and please pardon me for not being more socially forthcoming. Until, at least, you come to my town and we have chinese food around a big round table downtown. Yours on the fringes, Kathy Begin forwarded message: Vintage street humor: http://www.coyleandsharpe.com/
Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Coyle Sharpe
New York Town :) On Sep 26, 2004, at 3:19 PM, Roger Stevens wrote: A Chinese meal sounds good What town is that? Remind me. Roger It's a blog! http://rogerstevens.blogspot.com Buy a book http://www.rabbitpress.com Visit The Poetry Zone http://www.poetryzone.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Forer Sent: 26 September 2004 18:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Coyle Sharpe Dear Fluxlisters, I have refrained from posting anything or responding to follow-ups (Michael, I never saw the Dracula movie, but the review was an interesting read), awaiting something original or even just fun to say. I have no words now that will do, but I come across various things I think you'd find of interest, so I will continue to forward these bits to the list and please pardon me for not being more socially forthcoming. Until, at least, you come to my town and we have chinese food around a big round table downtown. Yours on the fringes, Kathy Begin forwarded message: Vintage street humor: http://www.coyleandsharpe.com/
Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Coyle Sharpe
What does -Cor! mean? _Of course _Caw _Corrected _Central Office of Record _Change Order Request _Certificate of Recognition _Committee of Regions http://www.ars-grin.gov/cor/pony.html (Historic Images from The Pears of New York compiled by U. P. Hedrick) On Sep 26, 2004, at 3:57 PM, michael leigh wrote: -Cor! -- Kathy Forer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New York Town :) On Sep 26, 2004, at 3:19 PM, Roger Stevens wrote: A Chinese meal sounds good What town is that? Remind me. Roger It's a blog! http://rogerstevens.blogspot.com Buy a book http://www.rabbitpress.com Visit The Poetry Zone http://www.poetryzone.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Forer Sent: 26 September 2004 18:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Coyle Sharpe Dear Fluxlisters, I have refrained from posting anything or responding to follow-ups (Michael, I never saw the Dracula movie, but the review was an interesting read), awaiting something original or even just fun to say. I have no words now that will do, but I come across various things I think you'd find of interest, so I will continue to forward these bits to the list and please pardon me for not being more socially forthcoming. Until, at least, you come to my town and we have chinese food around a big round table downtown. Yours on the fringes, Kathy Begin forwarded message: Vintage street humor: http://www.coyleandsharpe.com/ = It's another blog! http://flobberlob.blogspot.com/ ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: FLUXLIST: big round table downtown
http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST/DinnerApril2002/ It wasn't that long ago. I'd love to do it again. This time we'll let Alan talk. On Sep 26, 2004, at 4:42 PM, Alan Bowman wrote: isn't there a photo of this somewhere? forthcoming. Until, at least, you come to my town and we have chinese food around a big round table downtown. Yours on the fringes, Kathy
Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Coyle Sharpe
Mmnnh! http://members.shaw.ca/tom.t/unh/index.html On Sep 26, 2004, at 4:55 PM, michael leigh wrote: --You have to imagine it being uttered by Norman Wisdom. - Kathy Forer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does -Cor! mean? _Of course _Caw _Corrected _Central Office of Record _Change Order Request _Certificate of Recognition _Committee of Regions http://www.ars-grin.gov/cor/pony.html (Historic Images from The Pears of New York compiled by U. P. Hedrick) On Sep 26, 2004, at 3:57 PM, michael leigh wrote: -Cor! -- Kathy Forer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New York Town :) On Sep 26, 2004, at 3:19 PM, Roger Stevens wrote: A Chinese meal sounds good What town is that? Remind me. Roger It's a blog! http://rogerstevens.blogspot.com Buy a book http://www.rabbitpress.com Visit The Poetry Zone http://www.poetryzone.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Forer Sent: 26 September 2004 18:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Coyle Sharpe Dear Fluxlisters, I have refrained from posting anything or responding to follow-ups (Michael, I never saw the Dracula movie, but the review was an interesting read), awaiting something original or even just fun to say. I have no words now that will do, but I come across various things I think you'd find of interest, so I will continue to forward these bits to the list and please pardon me for not being more socially forthcoming. Until, at least, you come to my town and we have chinese food around a big round table downtown. Yours on the fringes, Kathy Begin forwarded message: Vintage street humor: http://www.coyleandsharpe.com/ = It's another blog! http://flobberlob.blogspot.com/ ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com = It's another blog! http://flobberlob.blogspot.com/ ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
FLUXLIST: Ahoy! badgers and bilge rats
http://newyorker.com/critics/cinema/?040524crci_cinema CREATING MONSTERS by ANTHONY LANE Van Helsing and Control Room. Issue of 2004-05-24 So there you are, trotting along in your horse-drawn carriage in the year 1888. It is a pleasant scene, although you might have chosen not to find your left-hand wheels spinning vainly over the brink of a ravine. The fact that the carriage itself has exploded into flames could also be thought disagreeable. And, while polite society would applaud the presence of a beautiful young woman inside the carriage, eyebrows would be raised at the gentleman accompanying her, who seems to have been bolted and stitched together from portions of other gentlemen. Oh, and there is one other matter: some form of wolverine, as large as a shire horse but rather less placid, has leaped onto the rear of the carriage and is making a concerted effort to join the party.
Re: FLUXLIST: re: FFFO site
On Sep 6, 2004, at 8:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps Kathy (for I think 'twas thee) do you still want me to host stuff on the web for you? ps Alan 1) It's someone else. 2) supereva provides you with a ridiculous framed interface of which I was critical. Perhaps you're thinking of that. 3) That's very sweet, I'd like a host like you. 4) If I had one, a site I would give you to host. 5) You must have a bazillion sites already. twee, Kathy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: FLUXLIST: freeformfreakout org dot web dot net etc Date: May 22, 2004 1:32:11 PM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 22, 2004, at 9:22 AM, Alan Bowman wrote: the pages are just some old things that we never got around to finishing... http://xoomer.virgilio.it/n.waugh/who.html check links at bottom. http://xoomer.virgilio.it/n.waugh/www.kylie.4t.com sb http://www.kylie.4t.com http://alanfffo.ehost.com/sing.html Pointless? Depends.html is a too funky name for html. My browser decided it didn't exist. Good as a title, not as html name. javascript odd. In Safari OS X quicktime player opens in same window, displacing faces, which work properly. It needs to be invisible. Maybe this: http://www.webdevelopersnotes.com/tips/html/5.php3 IE only though. http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~infoarts/technical/howto/sound/ wilson.quicktimejavascript.html clicking on images to get sounds works only in Mozilla browsers. You could do a browser sniffer and redirect people or you could use Flash which would be much much easier. Because you can't really click on, or as you're doing, mouseover, images to get sound that works in all browsers. Terrific site though. I love your moving poems. Your web site has come a long waay baby. I've spend far too much time trying to work this out, I must be avoiding something. I think there's a next of newborn birds outside, they just started squawking up a storm! More Later, Kathy
Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: new directors arrive at the FFFO
Congratulations dear papa! (You're so nice, I just had to say that twice.) the freeformfreakout organisation 'really weeny, but if i may say so, extremely wonderful division' is proud to announce the somewhat premature, but never-the-less welcome arrival of its new vice-vice directors: Daniel Tommaso and Joseph Luca, who were born at (around) 11:30 a.m. central european time, 13/08/04.
Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: new directors arrive at the FFFO
Congratulations dear papa! the freeformfreakout organisation 'really weeny, but if i may say so, extremely wonderful division' is proud to announce the somewhat premature, but never-the-less welcome arrival of its new vice-vice directors: Daniel Tommaso and Joseph Luca, who were born at (around) 11:30 a.m. central european time, 13/08/04.
FLUXLIST: Entering the Unknown...
http://www.unknownhypertext.com/
Re: FLUXLIST: where is everyone?
TODAY I WENT TO mind my p's and q's and look for my k's I SAW no light I HEARD no sound I SAID not a word AND THEN I returned home THE OUTCOME WAS golden athy
Re: FLUXLIST: Paper Gauze digital grid
But what are lossy attachments? little teeny tiny ones. they blur. they laugh. they make you cry. They're what you make when you've lost an attachment.
Re: FLUXLIST: Paper Gauze digital grid
On Jul 27, 2004, at 4:12 AM, Roger Stevens wrote: Does this mean we can now send attachments to the Fluxlist? Only if you slept late or not enough. And it helps if the attachments are lossy and small.
FLUXLIST: Petaluminous -- It's a word
...and a booklet dedicated to a brave and generous spirit. Thank you madawg for sending it to me. It took ages to open the envelope, not tearing it. Then twice that long to figure out to heed Joe Henry, for the woman it is cut. Well worth the wait. Shall I forward it on to anyone else? I've yet to contribute -- darnit, missing folios, stamps, envelopes, I can almost visualize them but can't locate them Kathy
FLUXLIST: Paper Gauze digital grid
Back then, when, Patricia sent me her folio of stamps and I placed them with some valued vintage cartoons by my dad and now I can't find either. I know they're here somewhere but there's all this too much other stuff instead. Last Seen... inline: last_seen2.jpg I saw a container ship today that looked like stacked books. It was bobbing next to, on one side then the other, a passenger ship that looked like a admiral's stripes layer cake. On a sea where objects kept getting bigger and closer and changing place. And then we'd passed it and look at the next thing. But our boat were never far from shore, so there was always something other than the horizon, though that was the most defining thing visible, even when it was masked by highlands. Would the sea that met up against the highland then be the horizon or sea level?
Re: FLUXLIST: A fascinmating test
one for spelling. Six for typology. On Jul 18, 2004, at 8:42 AM, michael leigh wrote: FINISHED FILES ARE THE RE- SULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTIF- IC STUDY COMBINED WITH THE EXPERIANCE OF YEARS
Re: FLUXLIST: A Tale of Two Tooth-Brushing Methods
Unless there's competition for the mirror/sink, I usually stand in one place, recalling occasionally what my dance teacher used to say about standing at the sink and holding in your stomach muscles. I will floss looking hard at the barely redeemable, poor things in my mouth, then go on to brush, staring full face for seven seconds then wander, looking or staring down at the sink or counter or around behind in the mirror. Of course, it would be easier to say I removed my teeth while standing and polished them while walking around, but that wouldn't be true. On Jul 13, 2004, at 1:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when you brush your teeth do you stand in one place or do you walk around?
Re: FLUXLIST: Boiled and jellied: I and We
On Jul 12, 2004, at 11:32 AM, secret fluxus wrote: We are boiled, jellied oatmeal indeed. We nevertheless hope that there is more substance to us than flummery. This is what is confusing. You write with a singular voice, mostly not a royal 'We', yet are theoretically eight autonomous individuals. It also lends a sense of deception, intended or not. On Jul 11, 2004, at 8:14 AM, secret fluxus wrote: We have decided to use artist names, the artist equivalent of an authors nom de plume. In this way, we can each develop a personality and style that suits us while remaining anonymous to anyone outside the group. This may not be an entirely satisfactory solution, but we think it will allow us some new approaches.
Re: FLUXLIST: A boiled 'I' and a jellied 'we'
Dear No Name Man, I me changed my mine mind. Your voice(s) did sound like a royal we, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the+royal+we, therein the dissonance. You are now an I, and your we is striving toward more multifarious differentiation, but youse haven't always been so. Without wax, Kathy On Jul 12, 2004, at 2:30 PM, secret fluxus wrote: Dear Kathy, To answer Suse's letter, I wrote as an 'I' describing a 'we'. The 'we' is hardly royal. It's not even editorial I was more or less speaking of the eight of us, but writing as one who describes the thoughts and sentiments of eight. Call me a lummox with the flummox. On top of that, I am growing to like my non-de-plume nom-de-plume so much that I may keep it after the others grow names. Sincerely, The Man Without a Name
Re: FLUXLIST: Princess Petal booklet
Princess Lodestone: A Princess of Mars; A Princess of naughty carrots; A woman regarded as having the status or qualities of a piece of magnetic iron ore possessing polarity like a magnetic needle. I'd like to see the booklet and can forward it to someone else if there aren't enough extra. And will send something, a drawing. Kathy Forer 505 Locust Point Road Locust, NJ 07760 On Jul 10, 2004, at 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay- I have finished printing the Petal pages. I have about five copies left for anyone who didnt participate. Send me your snail mail address. Dawg
FLUXLIST: For Kincaid fans
For your Thomas Kincaid fans: Tonight: [CC] 60 mins. 7/4/04 7:00 PM [EDT] Morley Safer profiles artist Thomas Kinkade; Mike Wallace investigates controversial eminent-domain policies; Ed Bradley reports on a drug sting in Tulia, Texas.
Re: FLUXLIST: For Kincaid fans
On Jul 4, 2004, at 7:58 PM, Ray Noman wrote: Thats OK for you folks at the centre of things but out here the TKAS: 42S (Thomas Kinkaid Appreciation Society: 42 degrees South) theres no way well get that unless someone can send a bootleg video to the poor souls wholl be missing this. Well just see what we can do but thanks for the alert. I didn't watch it... but '60 minutes' is pretty good about archiving and presenting their shows: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/11/21/60minutes/main318790.shtml Enjoy!
Re: FLUXLIST: For Kincaid fans
Alas, the video is just the stub, a taste of six sugared art. Perhaps you'll find a complete video on usenet. Though why is beyond me. Then I ought to have recorded it for you, my apologies, the weather was delightful and I was getting the last daylight. And my VCR and I aren't really very friendly lately. Kathy
Re: FLUXLIST: Things to bring on a sailing trip
fresh water On Jul 3, 2004, at 1:51 PM, michael leigh wrote: --A boat? - Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Foul weather gear (pants and jacket) Wool sweater (wool insulates even when wet) Wool cap Sun hat with neck strap (so it won't blow off) Deck shoes Flashlight Short pants Extra shirts Clean socks Clean underwear Toilet paper Beer Scotch whiskey Bottled water Sleeping bag Pillow Waterproof travel bag Sunglasses Harmonica ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - so many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
FLUXLIST: Fwd: Website of Interest: The LinkSquare Project
I'm on this most incredible 'other' list, -- two-timing y'all. I brought back another little something to share the joy. This is terrific. http://www.fishbucket.net/linksquare.html
Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Website of Interest: The LinkSquare Project
On Jul 2, 2004, at 10:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/2/04 6:42:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.fishbucket.net/linksquare.html very cool --I stole a bunch of stuff! Trickle down theory.
Re: FLUXLIST: the wonderful laughter of madawg
Someone can have my Jack of spades if we're running short. Or even if not, I'll trade for the eight of hearts. Just how is this sound project asposed to work?
Re: FLUXLIST: the wonderful laughter of madawg
Oh dear me, wrong thread entirely! Please excuse me, madawg, for playing cards in earshot of your laughter. On Jul 1, 2004, at 12:21 AM, someone wrote: Someone can have my Jack of spades if we're running short. Or even if not, I'll trade for the eight of hearts. Just how is this sound project asposed to work?
Re: FLUXLIST: request for help
On Jun 27, 2004, at 12:40 PM, Alan Bowman wrote: re: the previous mail i can get it to work (to download the mp3 to HD) using netscape but not IE also You.html says it's load but i can't see anything! are they using some weird script of transfering my files around? i've seen a link ti one of my pages from the supereva site which has a completely different URL! It may be something as simple as changing the url from a href=music/13%20You_collective.midHere the full piece here/a/p to a href=music/13-You_collective.midHere the full piece here/a/p as my Safari Browser reads it just fine. IE is very literal about 20's, or spaces, and only correctly reads actual spaces, but most servers or something translate the spaces to the ascii, or %20, so that's why IE breaks. my head really hurts! you think so? Music sounds nice. Very weird about supereva not allowing direct links to mp3 files. You might try an Embed tag. http://www.blogdrive.com/site/musicem.html http://david.egbert.name/work/newmedia/quicktime/mp3_in_quicktime/ (quicktime embed)
Re: FLUXLIST: a deck of cards - update
Okay. I can do the Jacks, spades and hearts please. Seven of diamonds though if I've lost all face. But I don't quite understand what we'll be doing if it's a standard deck of cards. Why not just buy Bicycle. A queen is always necessary. The mother ruling figure, she is meant to ensure continuation of the line. But no independent girl-chillds. Except maybe Joan of Arc, but she had to dress up like a boy then die. Kathy On Jun 27, 2004, at 9:04 PM, brian wrote: kathy, i really wish i could include the princesses, but this is a standard 52 card deck. maybe candaces' card game could benefit from them, but as they are not included in the standard 52 card deck that you can buy almost anywhere in the world, they hold no relevance for the project. i did enjoy the story about the cards though. i would also blame a patriarchal lean to have the Princess eliminated, but that might be jumping the gun/reactionary/slant of facts to suit reaction, as what about the Queen? i'm busy reading a book called Whores In History. relies much on the patriarchal arguement, but with a substantial fact finding and reference into how the male dominated system was actively squashing the original matriarchal rule. don't know where that came from, but... if you would care to participate in the deck of cards, then let me know. thanks, brian
Re: FLUXLIST: Getting the Fear
On Jun 26, 2004, at 3:05 AM, michael leigh wrote: A few Scottish football teams etched onto my brain after listening to the results as my Dad asked for complete hush as he did the football pools coupon over many years of childhood. He won £20 back in 1958 but nothing else ever. He must have spent hundreds of pounds over the years betting this way as millions of working class people did in the u.k.- there chance to win the BIG money price. The national Lottery has taken over now ofcourse. I hope you weren't from Yorkshire and had a falcon named Kes. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064541/usercomments
FLUXLIST: It' sback
http://fluxlist.swiki.net/ I still like my php version at http://jerseymac.com/fluxwiki better, though there's some good stuff on this one, I'm mad at swiki for being so unreliable and forcing me to make my own, though it was great software to work with and to learn. though, Ktahy
Re: FLUXLIST: a deck of cards - update
GRRR
Re: FLUXLIST: a deck of cards - update
would the jills replace the jacks or would there be both jacks and jills? Both jacks and jills. http://www.halexandria.org/dward447.htm Another highly significant difference between the Tarot and ordinary playing cards is the fact that a Tarot deck consist of 56 cards, and the ordinary playing deck only 52. What is missing are four cards (one of each suit) representing the Princess of the royal family. There are, for example, a King, Queen, and Jack in each playing card deck, but no Jill. This deletion is likely the result of a patriarchal -- probably church initiated -- influence, wherein the female supposedly has no value other than being a mother. and http://www.halexandria.org/dward448.htm The Aces, which were uncommonly important in the Tarots Minor Arcana, and which represented beginnings, otherwise inexplicably became more important that the royalty of the King, Queen, and Jack. The idea of the 1 card being so important is in any other view, nonsensical. And, of course, there is the missing 14th card of the Minor Arcana in the modern playing deck. For the Tarot had a Princess, a Jill, as part of the royal family. But as the patriarchy claimed more and more power for itself, she disappeared into the night -- in the manner that the navy of the (war) chess set, became the bishop. More info here, at site curated by David Galt, my original Jill commissioner: http://www.ahs.uwaterloo.ca/~museum/vexhibit/plcards/plcards.html
Re: FLUXLIST: Address book new projects
I'm curious. And have re-leafs now and then. Kathy Forer 505 Locust Point Road Locust, NJ 07760 On Jun 25, 2004, at 10:08 AM, Wojtek Dlugosz wrote: Ok! my misstake - there are only 3 to take now!
Re: FLUXLIST: the Toy Box
Zobo wasn't punk, at least I think it wasn't. It was earlier, Zappa and http://www.zwire.com/news/newsstory.cfm?newsid=728493BRD=1395PAG=461 their wild fusion of rock, blues and jazz originals college band, improvisational insanity. I was as outside as an insider could get, or inside for an outsider. Or neither and both. I just liked the band. On Jun 25, 2004, at 10:58 AM, badgergirl wrote: We were non-super and totally not great. In fact, we sucked. We did, however, have a great deal of presence. Well, at least I did.
Re: FLUXLIST: update and tatoos ....
Jill of Hearts and spades here. On Jun 25, 2004, at 5:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to put dibs on the Queen of Hearts My physical address is Madawg Painter of Dark/P.O.Box 916/Pacific Grove,CA93950
Re: FLUXLIST: a deck of cards - update
sound of clearing throat... I do believe I said Jill of hearts and spades. I'm not up for any knaves, even or especially those two. Actually I was looking to uh repurpose existing Jills I once made for a game maven. With his permission, I'll get the rules from him. On Jun 25, 2004, at 11:57 PM, brian wrote: michael leigh: King of Hearts Three of Clubs Allan Revich: Jack of Diamonds Wojtek Dlugosz: Four of Diamonds King of Clubs Madawg: Queen of Hearts Paul Arnaud Brandt: Four of Diamonds David-Baptiste Chirot: Ace of Spades Kathy Forer: Jack of Hearts Jack of Spades brian: Two Jokers
FLUXLIST: Fwd: Hi, I found this cool page! Maybe worth to look at Fluxlist.RecentChanges
No HTML? Visit the page : http://www.jerseymac.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?pagename=Fluxlist.RecentChanges Hi, I found this cool page! Maybe worth to look at herer http://www.jerseymac.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?pagename=Fluxlist.RecentChanges
Re: FLUXLIST: the Toy Box
There was once this super-great, some say legendary band, we danced to it a lot, called the Zobo Funn Band. Their music still jump-starts me in my studio. Bobo's Supermarket of Sound
Re: FLUXLIST: Lord Russell's Pair of Pediatric Togs
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/uclickcomics/20040623/ cx_tt_uc/tt20040623 inline: ltt040623.jpg
Re: FLUXLIST: Gate Time
We wrought over ours all the time. xx000xxx xxx00xxx xx000xx000xx 0000xxxx 0xxx xxx00x00 xxx000x0 xx00 On Jun 23, 2004, at 5:07 AM, Roger Stevens wrote: My gran had one. But it was over-wrought.
Re: FLUXLIST: a Happy solstice/soulsustenance day to all!
A birthday is like home grown asparagus It only comes up once a year So you owe it to yourself to treat it right Happy Hollandaise Kathy (Thank you to Crocus her dear departed creator, Nancy Donahue)
FLUXLIST: Fwd: 99 Rooms - Flash Adventure
This is a real treat. Have a nice visit! Begin forwarded message: From: Michael James Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Flash adventure which allows users to walk through a eerie virtual building and see the sights and hear the sounds of the various rooms of a dilapidated structure: http://99rooms.terracontent.de/
Re: FLUXLIST: Apologies to Alan Bowman
On 6/20/04 2:06 PM, secret fluxus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We did not intend the mildly irate reply that we posted by misreading the header on his short note as the header for Allan Revich's long note and harsh list of labels. But is or isn't Allen Revich one of you? Has he not at one time signed his own messages as Secret Fluxus? Or was that some or another sort of mis/appropriation? Dear women and four Beatles imitators,
Re: FLUXLIST: secret fluxus' pianoforte Drop
That was just perfect! I still hope the pianos are beyond repair, but now it makes sense. On Jun 20, 2004, at 3:09 PM, zoe marsh wrote: This is a bit from 'Not Fade Away' by Jim Dodge, one of my favourite writers. It's about two blokes, one of whom is a horn player, wrecking a car for insurance, and seemed to be somehow relevant - zoe I put the Merc in Neutral and cramped the wheels to the left. Big Red and I put our shoulders to it, a few good grunts at first, and then she was rolling on her own weight. When the front tires dropped over the edge, the back end flipped up, but rather than nosing straight down it dragged on the frame and tilted sideways slow enough for us to hear all the cans sluicing towards the drivers side, and then she cleared the edge and was gone. The earth suddenly seemed lighter. It was silent so long I figured we hadn't heard it hit, that the sound of the impact had been muffled by the surge and batter of the waves below, and I was just about to peer over the edge when it smashed on the rocks KAAALLLAAM. Big Red stood there, rooted, eyes closed and head thrown back, swaying slightly from side to side. He was obviously lost in something, but, though I hated to interrupt, it didn't seem wise to hang around appreciating the sonic clarity of a new Mercury meeting ancient stone in the middle of a felony. I touched his arm. 'Let's hit it.' 'You drive,' Big Red replied - a command, not a request. Silent, eyes closed, Big Red didn't twitch from his reverie until we were coming back across the golden gate. I was half depressed with spoilt adrenaline, half pissed that he'd withdrawn when I felt like yammering, so when he finally opened his eyes and asked 'Did you hear it,' I was a little cross. 'Hear what? The waves? The wind? The wreck?' 'No man, the silence. The gravitational mass of that silence. And then that great, brief, twisted cry of metal.' 'That sound isn't high on my hit parade, Red. I like cars, trucks, four-bys, six-bys, eight-bys, and them great big motherfuckers that bend in the middle and go shooosh shooosh when you pump the brakes. It'd be like throwing your horn off the cliff.' 'Yes!' He grabbed my shoulder, 'Exactly!' He was so pleased that it seemed cruel to admit my understanding was the accidental result of petulant exaggeration, if not outright deceit.
Re: FLUXLIST: secret fluxus' pianoforte Drop
No, no, I'm sure I don't get it. Of course I'm clueless, I can almost see smashing a guitar on stage as an act of defiance and crude energy but I fully miss the ...what, the point?, I miss why anyone would smash a piano to smithereens. A great big smashing bang and large chords of sound and then splinters. And no more piano. Piano murder? Vandalism as performance Are these untuned pianos? Please explain. type yoko ono piano drop into the search box of google [I remember being about five and my grandfather arriving at the house one day out of nowhere, Hansen's grandson Beck recalled. He had a bag of junk with him, magazines, cigarette butts and refuse which he would use in his art pieces. I had some old toys out back, including a broken plastic rocking horse. The next day I came home from school and he had taken the horse, cut off the head and glued cigarette butts all over it, and then sprayed the whole thing silver. I think things of that nature showed me the possibilities that lie within everyday disposable objects, that we can act as alchemists and turn shit into gold.] Hansen, Al (?-) American artist, grandfather of Beck Hansen [noted for his role in the Fluxus art movement] [Sources: Irish Times, 19 November 1999] More Al Hansen anecdotes Related Anecdote Keywords: Eccentrics Eccentricity Performance Art Pianos Vandalism Spontaneity
Re: FLUXLIST: The Wiki man
Is anyone even seeing what is making writing and posting?! -- much less ofcourse recycling. I dare you to visit and, well, ever again think the same about LumpyLumkins. Or come up with a map of HaroldTheWorm's 14th birthday present, okay I'll do that, but I have other priorities first, or do I? On Jun 15, 2004, at 12:52 PM, michael leigh wrote: -I keep going back to the FluxWiki site to check out the DogBitesMan story but sadly not much has been added except by yours truly and kathy ofcourse. Go and kick around in the sandbox,it's great!
Re: FLUXLIST: wolverine and badger
I do apologize, the file upload limit was most likely too low for any sound files. I've upped it considerably to 2048000 bytes, but it's still a limit as it's simple web hosting. The page ought to have returned an error message, I don't know why it didn't, but hopefully it's a moot point now. These are the file types possible: SDV($UploadExts,array( 'gif','jpg','jpeg','png','bmp','ico','wbmp', # images 'mp3','au','wav', # audio 'mpg','mpeg','wmf','mov','qt','avi', # video 'zip','gz','tgz','tar','rpm','hqx','sit', # archives 'doc','ppt','xls','exe','mdb',# MSOffice 'pdf','psd','ps','ai','eps', # Adobe 'htm','html','css','fla','swf', # web stuff 'txt','rtf','exe','tex','dvi','')); # misc I cannot remember a time when I did not take it as understood that everybody has at least two, if not twenty-two, sides to him.--Robertson Davies
Re: FLUXLIST:Stepford Wives recipes
Sangria! Onion Soup Beef Fondue Pigs in Blankets Tacos Coca-cola Basted Ham Fettucine Alfredo Green Beans Almandine Hash Brownies Orange Juice and Vodka Screwdrivers http://www.askginka.com/themes/1960.htm
FLUXLIST: Fwd: BusinessWeekWikis
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_23/b3886141.htm
FLUXLIST: fluxlist wiki history
In April 2002 Sol Nte started a wiki at http://fluxlist.swiki.net/ As I recall, mIEKAL aND, Kamen 6digits (hello, are you still here?) and Sherry Wong were especially into it. Last week brian asked me about adding sound to the badger and wolverine story and the delayed dawn burned through the fog that what we were doing with Nomad Slasher, or perhaps had already done, was a wiki thing. So I went to see about adding the story to fluxlist.swiki.net , but alas, Swiki.net has gone where even archive.org has no record of it. So and so I rather unilaterally, given the apparently benign nature of the thing, started my own, using PatrickMichaud's GPU open source software, PmWiki, on a spare corner of a web server. The wiki philosophy is here for any who care to read it: http://www.jerseymac.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php? pagename=PmWiki.PmWikiPhilosophy A wiki accords with an aspect of the original hypertext vision of Tim Berners-Lee, Sir, of the WorldWideWeb as an online collaborative space http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee, the idea that got me interested in the computers and Internet, my hula hoop. I might try to change ManBitesDog to a higher level of the wiki sidebar, so it is its own heading, with any sub-pages listed under it, so that Fluxlist.Badger would become ManBitesDog.Badger and be listed under ManBitesDog along with other pages of similar hierarchical naming, but putting them in the sidebar might take some of the exploration out of it. And, it would more purely dedicate the wiki to fluxlist, something about which I was hesitant to be so literally bold. In any diary, the day comes for looking elsewhere, and so I too will probably be out of the office again for a while. Kathy
Re: FLUXLIST: Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:21:07 -0400
The pw for uploading files to fluxwiki is the same as the first name of Once as disastrously or inadvertantly renamed by a Secret Fluxlist (but then returned to his original name). It's also the plural name of a big country with population: 57.5 million and geographic size: 212,935 square miles.
