Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Museum of Sex is proud to co-sponsor THE 2nd ANNUAL NEW YORK BURLESQUE FESTIVAL

2004-04-27 Thread Allan Revich
fluxus
sex

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From: "allen bukoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Museum of Sex is proud to co-sponsor THE 2nd ANNUAL
NEW YORK BURLESQUE FESTIVAL


> in the email today...
>
> Question:  why does SEX/sensuality/eroticism and Fluxus seem to be in
opposite corners (or is it just me)?  Are/were historical Fluxus
performances/objects/games/activities devoid of sexuality--even the ones
that seemed to address gender or sexuality issues  (or is that just a
misreading on my part)?  Don't get me wrong, I love Fluxus, I not saying
here that it's "missing" anything.  It's just that of all the things I love
a lot, Fluxus seems to have the least sex or sexuality in its soul.  Or am I
missing something?  Allen
>
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:37:35 -0400
> Subject: Museum of Sex is proud to co-sponsor THE 2nd ANNUAL NEW YORK
BURLESQUE FESTIVAL
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>
> > Thirsty Girl & Pontani Productions Proudly Present
> >
> >
> > THE 2nd ANNUAL NEW YORK BURLESQUE FESTIVAL
> > May 14th - May 16th
> >
> >
> > 3 Days of Glitter & Glamour in Gotham
> >
> >
> > Starring over 40 of Today's Premiere Burlesque Performers in 4 hot
> > NYC Venues.  Some of 2004 Festival highlights will include
> > performances by, The World Famous Pontani Sisters (NYC), Dirty
> > Martini (NYC), Torchy Taboo (At), Erochicha Bamboo (Japan),  Ginger
> > Goldmine (LA),The World Famous *BOB* (NYC), Skin Tight Outta Sight
> > (Canada), Lavender Cabaret (Chicago) and many more.
> >
> > Friday, May 14th, The Premiere Party @ The Pussycat Lounge, 36
> > Greenwich St, 9pm-close Celebrate the premiere of the 2nd Annual NY
> > Burlesque festival at the ever-titillating Pussycat Lounge with
> > host, Scotty the Blue Bunny!
> > Saturday May 15th: This or That - America's Favorite Game Show @
> > Sideshows by The Seashore in Coney Island. Hosted by the Great
> > Fredini and Julie Atlas Muz, "This or That!" is America's first
> > Burlesque TV game show!
> >
> > *Saturday, May 15th:The Saturday Spectacular! @ Avalon, 47 W 20th
> > Street, 7pm-12am Don't miss the spotlight event of this year's
> > festival.  We will be hosting an all-star line up of over 40
> > accomplished performers from across the nation.  The legendary
> > Murray Hill will emcee this fabulous main event!
> >
> > Sunday, May 16th: Burlesque Brunch & The Goldern Pastie Awards @
> > The Cutting Room, 19w 24th Street, 1pm-3pm Join us and saucy
> > hostess Miss Astrid, for the ever-entertaining Burlesque Brunch and
> > the 1st Annual Golden Pastie Awards at The Cutting Room.
> >
> > NYBF Fabulous Sponsors include:  Sylk Cream, Rheingold Beer, The
> > Museum of Sex, GO-NYC Magazine, The Onion, Bust Magazine & Lola
> > Staar
> >
> > For a complete lineup & tickets visit
> > www.thenewyorkburlesquefestival.com
>
>
>




Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Museum of Sex is proud to co-sponsor THE 2nd ANNUAL NEW YORK BURLESQUE FESTIVAL

2004-04-26 Thread Drew Danielson
Please correct away if I say anything that strikes you as wrong, but my 
impression of fluxus is that it generally has a familial or congenial 
flavor to it.  It's more demonstrative than evocative.  Its mystery, to 
me, doesn't induce me to want to demystify it, but to leave it be as it 
is.  Its subject is more often of needs than of desires, or perhaps more 
of what we expect than of what we demand.  It certainly can be visceral 
and sensual, but most often in terms of the 5 non-groinal senses.

I feel something parental or fraternal/sororal* when I get the feel of 
fluxus.  As the man said, it's not non-sexual, but for the most it's not 
erotic.


* the dictionary did not reveal to me a non-gendered word that means 
something like 'siblingly'.  This should be remedied.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alan,
have you seen Orfice Flux Plugs by Larry Miller 1974, a fluxkit Hannah Higgins 
talks about in her book Fluxus Experience (p.34)
she states,"the scale of the individual plugs invites the user to hold and finger 
them: to unroll condoms; to consider soft, small plugs for insertion into the nose 
ear, vagina, or anus; to examine statuettes that might enter any orifice of the 
user.  Where would this fit?  "  As well, on the cover of the Orfice Flux Plugs kit 
the label has a photo of a finger inserted into an anus.  
Also, I remember reading in Games at the Cedilla, George Brecht or Robert 
Filliou stating that all sex at the cedilla happens in groups.
How about the performance where they pee into a metal bucket and whoever 
pees the longest wins (sorry, i can't remember the title)
anyway, i don't think fluxus is devoid of sexuality, i don't think i would go so far 
as to call it erotic though.

-david

Quoting allen bukoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

in the email today...
Question:  why does SEX/sensuality/eroticism and Fluxus seem to be
in>  opposite corners (or is it just me)?  Are/were historical Fluxus>  
performances/objects/games/activities devoid of sexuality--even the
ones>  that seemed to address gender or sexuality issues  (or is that just
a>  misreading on my part)?  Don't get me wrong, I love Fluxus, I not
saying>  here that it's "missing" anything.  It's just that of all the things
I love>  a lot, Fluxus seems to have the least sex or sexuality in its soul.
Or am>  I missing something?  Allen





RE: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Museum of Sex is proud to co-sponsor THE 2nd ANNUAL NEW YORK BURLESQUE FESTIVAL

2004-04-26 Thread Don Boyd
I think you are missing something, Allen. -Don
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Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Museum of Sex is proud to co-sponsor THE 2nd ANNUAL NEW YORK BURLESQUE FESTIVAL

2004-04-26 Thread colagiov
Alan,
have you seen Orfice Flux Plugs by Larry Miller 1974, a fluxkit Hannah Higgins 
talks about in her book Fluxus Experience (p.34)
she states,"the scale of the individual plugs invites the user to hold and finger 
them: to unroll condoms; to consider soft, small plugs for insertion into the nose 
ear, vagina, or anus; to examine statuettes that might enter any orifice of the 
user.  Where would this fit?  "  As well, on the cover of the Orfice Flux Plugs kit 
the label has a photo of a finger inserted into an anus.  
Also, I remember reading in Games at the Cedilla, George Brecht or Robert 
Filliou stating that all sex at the cedilla happens in groups.
How about the performance where they pee into a metal bucket and whoever 
pees the longest wins (sorry, i can't remember the title)
anyway, i don't think fluxus is devoid of sexuality, i don't think i would go so far 
as to call it erotic though.

-david



Quoting allen bukoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> in the email today...
>
> Question:  why does SEX/sensuality/eroticism and Fluxus seem to be
> in>  opposite corners (or is it just me)?  Are/were historical Fluxus>  
performances/objects/games/activities devoid of sexuality--even the
> ones>  that seemed to address gender or sexuality issues  (or is that just
> a>  misreading on my part)?  Don't get me wrong, I love Fluxus, I not
> saying>  here that it's "missing" anything.  It's just that of all the things
> I love>  a lot, Fluxus seems to have the least sex or sexuality in its soul.
> Or am>  I missing something?  Allen