[fonc] Composing Examples (was Re: Code Bubbles)

2010-03-12 Thread Markus Gälli
Am 12.03.2010 um 02:12 schrieb Julian Leviston: This is great, but code should be easy enough to understand that anyone can read it... like, say, an even easier and better version of Cucumber. Do that kind of binding, and I see there being no difference between writing down the goals in

Re: [fonc] Code Bubbles

2010-03-12 Thread John Zabroski
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Dethe Elza de...@livingcode.org wrote: Other have made the argument that Google is essentially the modern command-line interface, but I think this goes way beyond Google. Things like mash-ups are made possible by the View Source nature of the web, every web

Re: [fonc] Code Bubbles

2010-03-12 Thread Julian Leviston
On 13/03/2010, at 3:17 AM, John Zabroski wrote: Wrong. Commercial spreadsheets are not Turing complete. However, it is possible for a programming language built using the spreadsheet cell as a fundamental building block to be Turing complete. See Oregon State University's work on

Re: [fonc] Code Bubbles

2010-03-12 Thread Alan Kay
And, of course, there was Playground (a object oriented language made completely from (richer) spreadsheet cells that we did for the Vivarium project in the late 80s and early 90s). Cheers, Alan From: John Zabroski johnzabro...@gmail.com To: Fundamentals of

Re: [fonc] Code Bubbles

2010-03-12 Thread Andrey Fedorov
Julian Leviston jul...@leviston.net wrote: To restate my point, simply: programming computers is not as easy as using them, and using them is not even as easy or useful as it could be. Don't get me wrong - I completely understand your intuition. I have it too. But beware! Intuition weighs

Re: Flight Data Recorders, etc. (was: [fonc] my two cents)

2010-03-12 Thread John Zabroski
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Faré fah...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 March 2010 10:18, John Zabroski johnzabro...@gmail.com wrote: 1. I am simultaneously interested in open, reflective, dynamically distributed and dynamically federated systems Nice way to put it. Welcome to the club! 3.