Instead of 'applications', you have objects you can manipulate (compose,
decompose, rearrange, etc.) in a common environment. The state of the
system, the construction of the objects, determines not only how they
appear but how they behave - i.e. how they influence and observe the world.
Task
It's worth noting that this was the scheme at PARC and was used heavily later
in Etoys.
This is why Smalltalk has unlimited numbers of Projects. Each one is a
persistant environment that serves both as a place to make things and as a
page of desktop media.
There are no apps, only objects
Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com writes:
One of the interesting misunderstandings was that Apple and then MS
didn't really understand the universal viewing mechanism (MVC) so they
thought views with borders around them were windows and view without
borders were part of desktop publishing, but in
n 31 October 2013 17:37, Chris Warburton chriswa...@googlemail.com wrote:
…many filesystems have provided metadata facilities
over the years, but these have all hit limits which end up being worked
around by storing metadata in files, making the FS unnecessarily
complex.
ReiserFS, from at
Hi Chris,
I get your point but I have really grown to dislike that phrase Worse is
Better. Worse is never better. Worse is always worse and worse never reduces
to better under any set of natural rewrite rules. Yes there are advantages in
the short term to being first to market and things that
In the spirit of equivocation when I look at the world we live in and and note
the trends then I feel worse, not better.
-David Leibs
On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:10 AM, David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com wrote:
The phrase Worse is better involves an equivocation - the 'worse' and
'better'
Alan,
I appreciate the peek into history! I had to look up Fabrik and PARTS. I
love the idea of running presentations as live coding; in fact, I shall
endeavor to do so for any talks I give regarding my own system.
Smalltalk has a lot of good ideas, but they're sometimes mixed with
not-so-great
It can be depressing, certainly, to look at the difference between where
we are and where we could be, if we weren't short-sighted and greedy.
OTOH, if you look at where we are vs. where we were, I think you can
find a lot to be optimistic about. FP and types have slowly wormed their
way into many
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Chris Warburton chriswa...@googlemail.com
wrote:
In the case of an OS, providing a dumb box to draw on is much easier
than a complete, complementary suite of MVC/Morphic/etc. components,
even though developers are forced to implement their own incompatible
Essentially a problem oriented window is what you want. In something like
Lively Kernel, this becomes a problem oriented widget.
On Oct 31, 2013 10:30 AM, Casey Ransberger casey.obrie...@gmail.com
wrote:
A fun, but maybe idealistic idea: an application of a computer should
just be what one
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