Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report abandoned?

2013-09-05 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 04:28:52PM -0700, Simon Forman wrote: There is a (the?) universal logical notation being elucidated right now that seems to me to be very promising for this sort of stuff. Is it intrinsically massively parallel? If it isn't, it's probably not going to go places.

Re: [fonc] Separating computation from the machine

2013-04-23 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 02:05:07PM -0500, Tristan Slominski wrote: That alone seems to me to dismiss the concern that mind uploading would not be possible (despite that I think it's a wrong and a horrible idea personally :D) I'm curious why you think that it's wrong (?) and horrible.

Re: [fonc] Actors, Light Cones and Epistemology (was Layering, Thinking and Computing)

2013-04-16 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 08:27:08AM -0700, David Barbour wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: Few ns are effective eternities in terms of modern gate delays. I presume the conversation was about synchronization, which should be avoided in general

Re: [fonc] Actors, Light Cones and Epistemology (was Layering, Thinking and Computing)

2013-04-15 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 03:03:12PM -0700, David Barbour wrote: And I've seen Grace Hopper's video on nanoseconds before. If you carry a piece of wire of the right length, it isn't difficult to say where light carrying information will be after a few nanoseconds. :D Few ns are effective

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 12:08:35PM -0500, John Carlson wrote: The Lord will return like a thief in the night: http://bible.cc/1_thessalonians/5-2.htm Is this predictable? Is there more than one return? Jews believe in one Messiah. Christians believe in 2 Messiahs (Jesus and his return).

[fonc] The Deep Insights of Alan Kay -- a nice summary

2013-02-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
http://mythz.servicestack.net/blog/2013/02/27/the-deep-insights-of-alan-kay/ FEB 27TH, 2013 If you haven’t heard of Alan Kay you’ll likley have heard one of his many famous quotes, the most popular, likely his 1971 gem: The best way to predict the future is to invent it. But for the

Re: [fonc] Terminology: Object Oriented vs Message Oriented

2013-02-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:33:04AM -0700, Jeff Gonis wrote: I see no one has taken Alan's bait and asked the million dollar question: if you decided that messaging is no longer the right path for scaling, what approach are you currently using? Classical computation doesn't allow storing

Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-04 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 08:27:53PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: you might want to google biological computing - you'll start finding things like this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2009/jul/24/bacteria-computer (title: Bacteria make computers look like pocket calculators)

[fonc] Interview with Alan Kay

2012-11-16 Thread Eugen Leitl
http://www.drdobbs.com/architecture-and-design/interview-with-alan-kay/240003442# Interview with Alan Kay By Andrew Binstock, July 10, 2012 The pioneer of object-orientation, co-designer of Smalltalk, and UI luminary opines on programming, browsers, objects, the illusion of patterns, and how

Re: [fonc] Parallella

2012-10-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 10:38:09AM -0700, GrrrWaaa wrote: What do people here think of this? Like RPi meets multicore: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adapteva/parallella-a-supercomputer-for-everyone Great, I was just about to send this. I backed, and am looking forward to what and when

Re: [fonc] Deployment by virus

2012-07-19 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 02:28:18PM +0200, John Nilsson wrote: More work relative to an approach where full specification and controll is feasible. I was thinking that in a not to distant future we'll want to build systems of such complexity that we need to let go of such dreams. It could be

[fonc] Ask For Forgiveness Programming - Or How We'll Program 1000 Cores

2012-04-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
http://highscalability.com/blog/2012/3/6/ask-for-forgiveness-programming-or-how-well-program-1000-cor.html Ask For Forgiveness Programming - Or How We'll Program 1000 Cores Tuesday, March 6, 2012 at 9:15AM The argument for a massively multicore future is now familiar: while clock speeds have

Re: [fonc] Everything You Know (about Parallel Programming) Is Wrong!: A Wild Screed about the Future

2012-04-03 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 08:19:53AM -0700, David Barbour wrote: That said, I also disagree with Tom, there: design complexity doesn't need to increase with parallelism. The tradeoff between complexity vs. parallelism is more an artifact of sticking with imperative programming. It's not just

[fonc] Everything You Know (about Parallel Programming) Is Wrong!: A Wild Screed about the Future

2012-03-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
http://splashcon.org/2011/program/dls/245-invited-talk-2 Mon 2:00-3:00 pm - Pavilion East Everything You Know (about Parallel Programming) Is Wrong!: A Wild Screed about the Future invited speakerDavid Ungar, IBM Research, USA In the 1970’s, researchers at Xerox PARC gave themselves a glimpse

Re: [fonc] OT: Hypertext and the e-book

2012-03-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 03:00:35PM -0800, Casey Ransberger wrote: Books? First, the smell. Especially old books. I have a friend who has a Kindle. It smells *nothing* like a library, and I do think something is lost there. Some people get olfactorically imprinted on dead tree during their

[fonc] The death of CPU scaling: From one core to many — and why we’re still stuck

2012-02-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/116561-the-death-of-cpu-scaling-from-one-core-to-many-and-why-were-still-stuck?print The death of CPU scaling: From one core to many — and why we’re still stuck By Joel Hruska on February 1, 2012 at 2:31 pm It’s been nearly eight years since Intel canceled

[fonc] Re: [Beowulf] 3.79 TFlops sp, 0.95 TFlops dp, 264 TByte/s, 3 GByte, 198 W @ 500 EUR

2011-12-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
) On 12/22/11 7:42 AM, Prentice Bisbal prent...@ias.edu wrote: On 12/22/2011 09:57 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 09:43:55AM -0500, Prentice Bisbal wrote: Or if your German is rusty: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/computers/amd-radeon-hd-7970-graphics-card-lau nched-benchmarked-fastest

[fonc] [Beowulf] personal HPC

2011-12-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
sponsored by Penguin Computing To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf - End forwarded message - -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org

[fonc] Re: [Beowulf] 3.79 TFlops sp, 0.95 TFlops dp, 264 TByte/s, 3 GByte, 198 W @ 500 EUR

2011-12-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
/2011 09:57 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 09:43:55AM -0500, Prentice Bisbal wrote: Or if your German is rusty: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/computers/amd-radeon-hd-7970-graphics-card-lau nched-benchmarked-fastest-single-gpu-board-available/7204 Wonder what kind of response

Re: [fonc] History of computing talks at SJSU

2011-12-20 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 01:02:28PM -0800, Steve Dekorte wrote: Suppose you want to write an app to help people organize events. Neither the development or running the app is compute bound and a machine 1000x faster in itself likely wouldn't much with either. Suppose I need to simulate 10^12

Re: [fonc] History of computing talks at SJSU

2011-12-20 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:50:36AM -0800, Steve Dekorte wrote: Could you describe how more compute power helps you write the app I described faster? It is a really narrow problem space I'm not familiar with. I presume this isn't about scheduling, but about UI and usability? Anything

Re: [fonc] History of computing talks at SJSU

2011-12-17 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 02:16:41PM -0800, Steve Dekorte wrote: Is speed really the bottleneck for making computers more useful? Many major scientific problems or even gaming are resource-constrained. I personally would have no difficulties keeping astronomical numbers of nodes at 100% CPU for

Re: [fonc] History of computing talks at SJSU

2011-12-16 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 04:14:40PM -0300, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote: Eugen Leitl wrote: It's remarkable how few are using MPI in practice. A lot of code is being made multithread-proof, and for what? So that they'll have to rewrite it for message-passing, again? Having seen a couple

[fonc] Massively Parallel Computer Built From Single Layer of Molecules

2011-10-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
(also a crystal, only 2D, not 3D; yet) https://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27291/?p1=blogs Massively Parallel Computer Built From Single Layer of Molecules Japanese scientists have built a cellular automaton from individual molecules that carries out huge numbers of calculations in

[fonc] ARM CTO predicts chips the size of blood cells

2011-10-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
(cores, that is) http://www.techworld.com.au/article/405599/arm_cto_predicts_chips_size_blood_cells ARM CTO predicts chips the size of blood cells The chip design company is on its way to making chips no bigger than a red blood cell, its CTO says James Niccolai (IDG News Service) 28

Re: [fonc] IBM eyes brain-like computing

2011-10-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
-assembled macromolecular crystals (like viral capsids, only containing CA cells, designed to link up and connect, unlike real virus capids, who don't really want to, unless coaxed by crystallographers). or such... -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org

Re: [fonc] IBM eyes brain-like computing

2011-10-26 Thread Eugen Leitl
. better would be to try for a strategy where the merits of both can be gained, and as many limitations as possible can be avoided. most likely, this would be via a hybrid model. Absolutely. Hybrid at many scales, down to analog computation for neurons. or such... -- Eugen* Leitl a href